October 22nd, 2009, 02:54 PM | #1 |
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Best brake pad for 2fiddy
I basically narrowed it down to these two...which one do you think it's the best?
EBC FA197-HH Vesrah JL **(RJL and SRJL is not available for 250 for now)** |
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October 22nd, 2009, 04:15 PM | #2 |
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Check out the wiki article here:
http://www.ninjette.org/wiki/Which_brake_pads It comes to the same conclusion you did, that the EBC FA197HH seem to be the way to go. I've got the EBC197 (non-HH) on the front right now, and that was not an optimal choice, and will be switching them out for the HH's the next time I get a minute while the bike is on stands. I haven't seen a comparison with the Vesrah JL's yet.
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October 22nd, 2009, 05:09 PM | #3 |
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agree with Alex. the sintered metal pads are OEM on the 07-down models.. it only stands to reason that the 08-10s are as well. The EBC HH seems to be the part of choice as well.
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October 22nd, 2009, 05:24 PM | #4 |
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I have the FA197HH and the performance is much better than stock. Took me a day or so to get used to them.
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October 22nd, 2009, 05:28 PM | #5 |
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I am in the market for new pads myself as well what is a good website that has these pads in stock? I can't seem to find these pads on the regular sites I buy from it seems.
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October 22nd, 2009, 05:31 PM | #6 |
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The front and rear brakes are identical, so anything that works for the front will work for the rear. That said, for an optimal brake balance, it's not always a good idea to have extra grippy rear pads. Running FA197HH on the front and FA197 (non-HH) on the rear is probably a reasonable idea. I picked up some FA197HH's awhile back on cyclebrakes.com; good pricing and quick shipping.
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October 22nd, 2009, 05:57 PM | #7 |
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Thanks for the info Alex. One last n00b question if you don't mind. Do they come in sets of two pads per order?
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October 22nd, 2009, 06:27 PM | #8 |
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1 order = 1 caliper setup = 2 pads
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October 22nd, 2009, 06:30 PM | #9 |
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October 22nd, 2009, 06:44 PM | #10 |
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Good deal..that's where I got mine. Not sure if needed on bike rotors but a carry over from my track cars...I give the rotor a clean with SimpleGreen or the like and a fine weave steel wool or a soap impregnated steel wool pad to clean off the old pad material. It took me a good 200-300 miles of new pad bedding in before I got the stopping performance back...probably longer than some other folk since I was easy on the brake lever for that period. Overall, the stock sintered pads are pretty comparable to the EBC HH's as I think you'll notice.
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October 22nd, 2009, 07:35 PM | #11 |
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EBC needs to get the extreme pads going for the 250r.
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October 25th, 2009, 08:55 PM | #12 |
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Why would you need anything more extreme that HH? You will just fry the rotor...
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December 30th, 2009, 05:28 PM | #13 |
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Finally got off my lazy butt and changed out the front pads on the ninjette. The shop put on FA197's during the last service, and I wasn't happy with their performance. When I took them off today, they had plenty of meat left, but they looked completely cooked, entirely black and flaky in fact. Replaced them with FA197HH's, and went for a test ride. At first they didn't feel much different, but after just a few miles, they started to bed in, and by the end of the ride (20ish miles), they felt perfect, just as nice as the original HH's, if not better.
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December 30th, 2009, 08:18 PM | #14 |
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what do these said pads run usually
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December 30th, 2009, 08:54 PM | #15 |
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I'd say "I agree, FA197HH pads are excellent" but I haven't gotten around to putting them on yet...
Think I paid 30/pair (covers one wheel) from my local shop, but they can be hard to find at times. Here's a fair price ($34) @ motorcyclesuperstore, which seems to have them in stock atm: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...50R-Parts.aspx I think I mentioned it in another thread, but I'll put it here too: Make sure you get the correct FA197HH pads. There was a factory screw-up a while back that put the braking compound on the wrong side of the backing plate a while back, so you wound up with a mirror image of what ya need (unless you wanna start with the backing plates on your rotor). If you get a bad set of pads, just contact EBC directly and they'll replace them. DSC04305.jpg The set on the left are wrong The set on the right are what you want
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December 30th, 2009, 09:01 PM | #16 |
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$34 from cyclebrakes.com right here.
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December 30th, 2009, 09:30 PM | #17 |
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Thanks guys, i am no where near needing new pads and i am currently upgrading the nut on top of the bike before i go and do anything performance wise to it. I am looking at trying my first track day since i have a track 5 miles away from me (texas motor speedway) thats why i ask about brakes, i will need them probably after a couple trips there.
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January 8th, 2010, 05:10 AM | #18 |
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my ninja had some HH Nissin pads
i changed them with some Carbon/Ceramic brembo the blue ones ( medium hardness ) and the brakes are way better now |
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January 8th, 2010, 11:03 AM | #19 |
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Recently replaced oem's with ebc hh and what a difference. ebc hh ftw
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January 9th, 2010, 07:50 AM | #20 |
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January 9th, 2010, 10:43 AM | #21 | |
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Quote:
with brembo pads blue carbon/ceramic http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4457/08012010282.jpg |
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January 9th, 2010, 03:43 PM | #22 |
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looks like ebc is the way i will be going too when i decide to upgrade them. Everyone seems happy with the way they perform
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