DuPont Teflon Chain Lube - Formulas have changed

Alex · May 28th, 2012, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (poster on BARF)

DuPont has changed the formulation of their Teflon multi-use lubricant and Webikeworld.com says it's no longer fit for use as a chain lube. Details here:

http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/dupon...ain-lube-2012/

The DuPont Teflon Chain-Saver is still usable as a chain lube, but according to Webbikeworld is nowhere near as good as the old Teflon multi-lube. If you're a Teflon multi-lube lover and are inclined to hoarding, you may want to grab up a few cans.

Boom King · May 28th, 2012, 02:17 PM

DaBlue1 · May 28th, 2012, 02:52 PM

Guess I'll be going to Lowes and and grab what's left of the old formula. After that it will be back to Maxima.

Agustin · May 28th, 2012, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBlue1

Guess I'll be going to Lowes and and grab what's left of the old formula. After that it will be back to Maxima.

Ditto, thanks O.P for posting this.

Havok · May 28th, 2012, 03:31 PM

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

cbdallas · May 29th, 2012, 05:59 AM

I'm still searching around for leftover old stock. Found ONE can at an Ace Hardware & snagged it. Lowe's has already changed over to the new stuff, dammit.

If the can says 'Dry Wax' on it, you better grab it...it's getting rare already.

EthioKnight · May 29th, 2012, 08:03 AM

Well, I've been using the yellow can "chain saver" for about 6,500 ish miles now and it's worked perfectly for me, so I'm going to keep on using it.

sc37 · May 29th, 2012, 09:04 AM

Dangit...I've been duped. My can is the new stuff.

I started using Dupont based on all the suggestions online. But I was wondering why the stuff was so watery and why the chain was picking up stuff contrary to the information I got. Now I know...

cuong-nutz · May 29th, 2012, 09:25 AM

Good to know! Time to check out Lowes and Ace before it's all gone.

FishaRneked · May 29th, 2012, 10:02 AM

No big deal, just use this one. all they did was change the name (kindof) and can color...

xSean13 · May 29th, 2012, 10:06 AM

Uh oh...just got some and applied it to my chain last week. Wonder if it's the new stuff or not.

edit: Yep it's the new stuff...guess I need to get some chain saver & clean and reapply.

red5 · May 29th, 2012, 10:44 AM

Found some. At this price though, just buy new chains instead.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fl-Dupont-Mu...ce7367&vxp=mtr

Malicious Logic · May 29th, 2012, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EthioKnight

Well, I've been using the yellow can "chain saver" for about 6,500 ish miles now and it's worked perfectly for me, so I'm going to keep on using it.

Yeah, I have that too. Just put it on recently after using Du Pont's chain cleaner. Seems to be doing good so far.

pop0tart · May 29th, 2012, 02:43 PM

I bought the dupont lubricant in December and it's the new stuff, so most lowes are likely out of the old stuff by now.

Jiggles · May 29th, 2012, 02:57 PM

DaBlue1 · May 29th, 2012, 04:04 PM

I picked up 2 cans of DuPont Teflon Chain Saver at a Walmart, in the little motorcycle section.

They had about a dozen cans, but there was a small difference between the two. One can said, "Dry, Self-Cleaning Lubricant", the other said "Wax-Based Chain Lube".

The "Wax-Based Chain Lube" can says, O-Ring Safe, No Fling Off!
The "Dry, Self-Cleaning Lubricant" can says, Doesn't Attract Dirt, No Fling Off
According to Dupont's website, the "Dry, Self-Cleaning Lubricant" is the latest product.

I compared the DuPont Teflon Chain Saver Wax-Based Chain Lube to the DuPont Teflon Multi-use Dry Wax Lubricant. The two products spray and adhere to the chain the same. The consistency was very close and both dried to a waxy feel. Both clean well too. Both smell, look and taste the same, have the exact same ingredients listed on the can. The only major difference I can see as of now, is cost. The DuPont Teflon Chain Saver Wax-Based Chain Lube cost .99 cents more than the Multi-Use for an 11 oz. can.

Gunner · May 29th, 2012, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaBlue1

I picked up 2 cans of DuPont Teflon Chain Saver at a Walmart, in the little motorcycle section.

They had about a dozen cans, but there was a small difference between the two. One can said, "Dry, Self-Cleaning Lubricant", the other said "Wax-Based Chain Lube".

The "Wax-Based Chain Lube" can says, O-Ring Safe, No Fling Off!
The "Dry, Self-Cleaning Lubricant" can says, Doesn't Attract Dirt, No Fling Off
According to Dupont's website, the "Dry, Self-Cleaning Lubricant" is the latest product.

I compared the DuPont Teflon Chain Saver Wax-Based Chain Lube to the DuPont Teflon Multi-use Dry Wax Lubricant. The two products spray and adhere to the chain the same. The consistency was very close and both dried to a waxy feel. Both clean well too. Both smell, look and taste the same, have the exact same ingredients listed on the can. The only major difference I can see as of now, is cost. The DuPont Teflon Chain Saver Wax-Based Chain Lube cost .99 cents more than the Multi-Use for an 11 oz. can.

Taste test.....MmmMMMmm

leed · May 29th, 2012, 06:41 PM

As of October 2011.. Interesting.. I wonder if I have the new stuff..

gfloyd2002 · May 30th, 2012, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuPont

Please note that as of October 2011, DuPont Teflon Multi-Use Dry, Wax formula was modified. Many of our loyal customers have been purchasing DuPont Multi-Use for nearly a decade. We recently upgraded the formula to be a semi-dry lubricant with added corrosion protection but no longer features the "dirt-resistant, dry-wax" feature.

You will notice the most recent cans or bottles appearing on shelf do not contain the "Dry, Wax" claim on the label.

Many users have reached out wondering where their dry, wax formulation went. If you want to obtain that same dry-wax formulation, you should switch to DuPont Teflon Chain-Saver. This product contains the same Teflon fluoropolymer, molyebdenum and wax mixture that users have come to appreciate for its wear protection, water repellency and dirt resistance.

We were able to leave Chain-Saver as is. The formulations are very similar -- Chain Saver has more moly and more Teflon so it has better wear protection. Everything else is exactly the same."

= bad, don't use new formula for chains.

= good and cheap, but no longer produced. Buy up all old stock now.

= good and more expensive, still produced.

xSean13 · May 30th, 2012, 07:38 PM

And the portable bottle of chain-saver? (stuff on the left) I bought and used this stuff today.

gfloyd2002 · June 1st, 2012, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xSean13

And the portable bottle of chain-saver? (stuff on the left) I bought and used this stuff today.

That is good stuff. Same formula as the spray can chain-saver, but it is a bit thicker (no need for propellant), lasts longer and is easier to use on motorcycle chains. They came out with that at the request of motorcyclists. For me, that is the top choice right now.

xSean13 · June 1st, 2012, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfloyd2002

That is good stuff. Same formula as the spray can chain-saver, but it is a bit thicker (no need for propellant), lasts longer and is easier to use on motorcycle chains. They came out with that at the request of motorcyclists. For me, that is the top choice right now.

You're saying that it's thicker than the spray-can? When I used it, it was practically water...not very viscous at all.

gfloyd2002 · June 1st, 2012, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xSean13

You're saying that it's thicker than the spray-can? When I used it, it was practically water...not very viscous at all.

lol, yup. Spray can stuff is mist, at least the bottle stuff comes out in drops.

You don't want goopy lube, its a mess. This stuff goes on clean, dries clean. I'm still using up old formula stock of the multi-use dry, wax, but just got a couple bottles of the bottle chain saver and used it for my last lube. Works like a charm.

cuong-nutz · July 10th, 2012, 01:47 PM

Slightly different labels but the same thing. I ran out of Lube so went to the Lowes next to my place and the still had plenty left. I'm starting ovthimk I'm the only one buying it from them. 6 dollars/can.

red5 · July 11th, 2012, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

Slightly different labels but the same thing. I ran out of Lube so went to the Lowes next to my place and the still had plenty left. I'm starting ovthimk I'm the only one buying it from them. 6 dollars/can.

No. Check the link in the first post. If they have the "Dry, Wax Lubricant" (none in my area do) buy all that they have. The new "Lubricant" is not the same and most say does not work as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Saw on another site.

bdavison · July 11th, 2012, 08:22 AM

Ive had some really good experiences with the Motul stuff. Their spray chain cleaner is awesome. You guys should try it. Maxima would be my second choice.

cuong-nutz · July 11th, 2012, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red5

No. Check the link in the first post. If they have the "Dry, Wax Lubricant" (none in my area do) buy all that they have. The new "Lubricant" is not the same and most say does not work as well.

Yeah I re read the link last night and saw it. Good looking out though!

Lou · July 11th, 2012, 11:40 PM

Just used the Chain Saver on a new chain i put on, went on real well and flicked VERY little and thats with full summer heat on it. Used maxima before but that stuff went all over the place for me.

cuong-nutz · July 12th, 2012, 08:27 PM

Used the new can I bought and it doesn't look anything like the old dry wax formula that I am accustomed to. It's more clear and watery.

Miles_Prower · July 13th, 2012, 07:28 AM

ugh i just bought the new can. it was decently watery, had to use a paper towel to keep it from dripping all over the pavement. now i gotta go hunt down the chain saver stuff.. what a waste.

austexjg · October 18th, 2012, 02:32 PM

Was at Walmart getting oil when I noticed that they had the DuPont Chain Saver lubricant with two different labels - one saying "Wax-Based Chain Lube" and the other read "Dry, Self-Cleaning Lubricant". Both were in yellow cans with identical photos on the front. Any idea which is better?

Madman44 · October 19th, 2012, 08:19 PM

Damn, I'd been using the newer formula this entire time (about 4 applications). I went over to two different Lowe's and neither had the older formula. Looks like I'll be giving the Chain Saver a try. What would you guy recommend? Spray can or portable 'squeeze' bottle? Or is it the same?

Boom King · October 20th, 2012, 03:50 PM

I use the chain saver can. It is a bit watery when spraying but once it dries on the chain, it seems to be fine. Hardly any fling off when riding.

Madman44 · October 20th, 2012, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boom King

I use the chain saver can. It is a bit watery when spraying but once it dries on the chain, it seems to be fine. Hardly any fling off when riding.

I haven't been able to find it at any Lowe's. I checked the local Autozone and they didn't have it either. Any suggestions on where else to look (other than online)?

Byakkotai · October 20th, 2012, 11:49 PM

Try Walmart and maybe other Lowes? Just picked up a bottle of Chain Saver, non spray version today at the Lowes up here in Norcal. They didn't have as big of section of this stuff than I expected...

lgk · October 21st, 2012, 07:51 AM

got mine at lowes last month.
still had the old ones for $6

austexjg · October 26th, 2012, 05:01 PM

Anyone notice the different labels when purchasing at WalMart or is it just me?

lgk · October 26th, 2012, 05:33 PM

are you talking about the yellow ones?

austexjg · October 27th, 2012, 11:08 AM

Yep. One says "Dry" the other says "Wax Based".

Byakkotai · October 27th, 2012, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfloyd2002

That is good stuff. Same formula as the spray can chain-saver, but it is a bit thicker (no need for propellant), lasts longer and is easier to use on motorcycle chains. They came out with that at the request of motorcyclists. For me, that is the top choice right now.

Hope this from above helps (referring to the bottle wax formula)

May 29th, 2012, 09:25 AM	#9
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Good to know! Time to check out Lowes and Ace before it's all gone. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

May 29th, 2012, 02:57 PM	#15
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July 10th, 2012, 01:47 PM	#24
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Slightly different labels but the same thing. I ran out of Lube so went to the Lowes next to my place and the still had plenty left. I'm starting ovthimk I'm the only one buying it from them. 6 dollars/can. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

July 12th, 2012, 08:27 PM	#29
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Used the new can I bought and it doesn't look anything like the old dry wax formula that I am accustomed to. It's more clear and watery. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

October 18th, 2012, 02:32 PM	#31
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	Was at Walmart getting oil when I noticed that they had the DuPont Chain Saver lubricant with two different labels - one saying "Wax-Based Chain Lube" and the other read "Dry, Self-Cleaning Lubricant". Both were in yellow cans with identical photos on the front. Any idea which is better? __________________________________________________ Anyone can go fast in a straight line.... Once you go track, you never go back....

May 28th, 2012, 02:17 PM	#2
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.

May 28th, 2012, 02:52 PM	#3
DaBlue1 Long Time Rider Name: Blue Location: Charlotte, NC Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Guess I'll be going to Lowes and and grab what's left of the old formula. After that it will be back to Maxima.

May 28th, 2012, 03:31 PM	#5
Havok Internet Slut Name: Jeff Location: L.A. Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 FZ1, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

May 29th, 2012, 05:59 AM	#6
cbdallas ninjette.org guru Name: Charlie Location: Wylie, TX Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 650R Posts: 317	I'm still searching around for leftover old stock. Found ONE can at an Ace Hardware & snagged it. Lowe's has already changed over to the new stuff, dammit. If the can says 'Dry Wax' on it, you better grab it...it's getting rare already.

May 29th, 2012, 08:03 AM	#7
EthioKnight Super Noob Name: Alex Location: Mobile, AL Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, '84 Honda Spree 50cc Posts: A lot.	Well, I've been using the yellow can "chain saver" for about 6,500 ish miles now and it's worked perfectly for me, so I'm going to keep on using it.

May 29th, 2012, 09:04 AM	#8
sc37 ninjette.org member Name: SC Location: L-Ville Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): Currently: 2012 Honda NC700X; Previously: 2010 Ninja 250R Posts: 47	Dangit...I've been duped. My can is the new stuff. I started using Dupont based on all the suggestions online. But I was wondering why the stuff was so watery and why the chain was picking up stuff contrary to the information I got. Now I know...

May 29th, 2012, 10:02 AM	#10
FishaRneked ninjette.org member Name: your name Location: NOLA Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Ninjer 250, 2002 TL1000R, 2009 Concourse14, 2009 ZX6, 2006 SV650 Posts: 19	No big deal, just use this one. all they did was change the name (kindof) and can color...

May 29th, 2012, 10:06 AM	#11
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	Uh oh...just got some and applied it to my chain last week. Wonder if it's the new stuff or not. edit: Yep it's the new stuff...guess I need to get some chain saver & clean and reapply.

May 29th, 2012, 10:44 AM	#12
red5 ninjette.org guru Name: Chris Location: Chattanooga Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 15.256 Posts: 263	Found some. At this price though, just buy new chains instead. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fl-Dupont-Mu...ce7367&vxp=mtr

May 29th, 2012, 02:43 PM	#14
pop0tart ninjette.org member Name: Dash Location: PA Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): stolen :( Posts: 158	I bought the dupont lubricant in December and it's the new stuff, so most lowes are likely out of the old stuff by now.

May 29th, 2012, 04:04 PM	#16
DaBlue1 Long Time Rider Name: Blue Location: Charlotte, NC Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	I picked up 2 cans of DuPont Teflon Chain Saver at a Walmart, in the little motorcycle section. They had about a dozen cans, but there was a small difference between the two. One can said, "Dry, Self-Cleaning Lubricant", the other said "Wax-Based Chain Lube". The "Wax-Based Chain Lube" can says, O-Ring Safe, No Fling Off! The "Dry, Self-Cleaning Lubricant" can says, Doesn't Attract Dirt, No Fling Off According to Dupont's website, the "Dry, Self-Cleaning Lubricant" is the latest product. I compared the DuPont Teflon Chain Saver Wax-Based Chain Lube to the DuPont Teflon Multi-use Dry Wax Lubricant. The two products spray and adhere to the chain the same. The consistency was very close and both dried to a waxy feel. Both clean well too. Both smell, look and taste the same, have the exact same ingredients listed on the can. The only major difference I can see as of now, is cost. The DuPont Teflon Chain Saver Wax-Based Chain Lube cost .99 cents more than the Multi-Use for an 11 oz. can.

May 29th, 2012, 06:41 PM	#18
leed ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Loves Park, IL Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): Time will tell Posts: 969	As of October 2011.. Interesting.. I wonder if I have the new stuff..

May 30th, 2012, 07:38 PM	#20
xSean13 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Middle TN Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250r (sold) / '03 CBR 600RR Posts: A lot.	And the portable bottle of chain-saver? (stuff on the left) I bought and used this stuff today.

July 11th, 2012, 08:22 AM	#26
bdavison Wartown, USA Name: Bryan Location: Warner Robins, GA Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, 2007 Ninja 650R, and assorted other bikes Posts: A lot.	Ive had some really good experiences with the Motul stuff. Their spray chain cleaner is awesome. You guys should try it. Maxima would be my second choice.

July 11th, 2012, 11:40 PM	#28
Lou ninjette.org member Name: LOU Location: Imperial County, California Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): GreenSE 09 250R Posts: 247	Just used the Chain Saver on a new chain i put on, went on real well and flicked VERY little and thats with full summer heat on it. Used maxima before but that stuff went all over the place for me.

July 13th, 2012, 07:28 AM	#30
Miles_Prower One Loyal Fox Name: Rahul Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250R (RIP), 2011 ZX-6R Posts: 869	ugh i just bought the new can. it was decently watery, had to use a paper towel to keep it from dripping all over the pavement. now i gotta go hunt down the chain saver stuff.. what a waste.

October 19th, 2012, 08:19 PM	#32
Madman44 ninjette.org guru Name: Martin Location: California Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 250r Posts: 291	Damn, I'd been using the newer formula this entire time (about 4 applications). I went over to two different Lowe's and neither had the older formula. Looks like I'll be giving the Chain Saver a try. What would you guy recommend? Spray can or portable 'squeeze' bottle? Or is it the same?

October 20th, 2012, 03:50 PM	#33
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	I use the chain saver can. It is a bit watery when spraying but once it dries on the chain, it seems to be fine. Hardly any fling off when riding.

October 20th, 2012, 11:49 PM	#35
Byakkotai ninjette.org guru Name: Roger Location: NorCali - East Bay Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 White Ninja 300 Posts: 379	Try Walmart and maybe other Lowes? Just picked up a bottle of Chain Saver, non spray version today at the Lowes up here in Norcal. They didn't have as big of section of this stuff than I expected...

October 21st, 2012, 07:51 AM	#36
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	got mine at lowes last month. still had the old ones for $6 __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

October 26th, 2012, 05:01 PM	#37
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	Anyone notice the different labels when purchasing at WalMart or is it just me? __________________________________________________ Anyone can go fast in a straight line.... Once you go track, you never go back....

October 26th, 2012, 05:33 PM	#38
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	are you talking about the yellow ones? __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

October 27th, 2012, 11:08 AM	#39
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	Yep. One says "Dry" the other says "Wax Based". __________________________________________________ Anyone can go fast in a straight line.... Once you go track, you never go back....

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