Anyone with a new-gen 250 near Greenville, SC?

Knolly · October 8th, 2013, 08:17 AM

Sorry for making a topic for this, but it'll benefit a lot of us so I hope you'll forgive me, haha.

After swearing at my wheels while swapping them last weekend, I bugged Fast Frank Racing to see if they could make captive spacers for the 250, and potentially a full quick change axle kit. He said he'd look into it and try to find a bike near him but I figure I could help.

Shoot me a PM if you're in the area and I'll put you in touch with him!

DCMoney · October 8th, 2013, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knolly

Sorry for making a topic for this, but it'll benefit a lot of us so I hope you'll forgive me, haha.

After swearing at my wheels while swapping them last weekend, I bugged Fast Frank Racing to see if they could make captive spacers for the 250, and potentially a full quick change axle kit. He said he'd look into it and try to find a bike near him but I figure I could help.

Shoot me a PM if you're in the area and I'll put you in touch with him!

Interested in results.

stlcbr · October 10th, 2013, 07:36 AM

I say we machine our own

DCMoney · October 10th, 2013, 07:44 AM

Once my garage empty's out of all the extra bikes I'm going to take my spacers off and prototype some, then go turn some at my uncles house.

Also saw a good way to make the rear caliper captive going to do that this winter as well.

stlcbr · October 10th, 2013, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCMoney

Once my garage empty's out of all the extra bikes I'm going to take my spacers off and prototype some, then go turn some at my uncles house.

Also saw a good way to make the rear caliper captive going to do that this winter as well.

Don't forget custom tails as well, I think this winter is going to be full of fun 250 mods

Knolly · October 10th, 2013, 07:49 AM

Yeah, all of the captive bits aren't super difficult, I just think it'd be nice to have a source to buy from rather than everyone having to get custom bits. Plus those quick change axles are awesome.

Drew, is this the captive rear brake you mean?

stlcbr · October 10th, 2013, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knolly

Yeah, all of the captive bits aren't super difficult, I just think it'd be nice to have a source to buy from rather than everyone having to get custom bits. Plus those quick change axles are awesome.

Drew, is this the captive rear brake you mean?

Just looked at FF's Quick change rear kits... yea, not paying $449 simply to save a min while taking off my rear wheel

$50 for spacers is one thing, but I don't struggle with wheels enough to justify that much.

DCMoney · October 10th, 2013, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knolly

Yeah, all of the captive bits aren't super difficult, I just think it'd be nice to have a source to buy from rather than everyone having to get custom bits. Plus those quick change axles are awesome.

Drew, is this the captive rear brake you mean?

Yeah thats it!

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Originally Posted by stlcbr

Just looked at FF's Quick change rear kits... yea, not paying $449 simply to save a min while taking off my rear wheel

$50 for spacers is one thing, but I don't struggle with wheels enough to justify that much.

Yeah same here, don't "need" a quick change rear or front, and no way in hell I'm paying $450 for one. Just want some captive spacers.

stlcbr · October 10th, 2013, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DCMoney

Yeah same here, don't "need" a quick change rear or front, and no way in hell I'm paying $450 for one. Just want some captive spacers.

Exactly, captive spacers and a captive caliper will be more than enough to make for quick and easy changes... Maybe if we got into some endurance races next year

Knolly · October 10th, 2013, 08:08 AM

Yeah they're way too pricey for my blood too, I just think they're cool, haha. I told him that I don't think there'd be a big enough market for the quick change axles but there definitely would be one for captive spacers.

EDIT: MCRA SPONSORED 250 ENDURANCE RACING???

stlcbr · October 10th, 2013, 08:12 AM

now THAT, may be worth $449

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha_I8ZzqgZU

DCMoney · October 10th, 2013, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knolly

Yeah they're way too pricey for my blood too, I just think they're cool, haha. I told him that I don't think there'd be a big enough market for the quick change axles but there definitely would be one for captive spacers.

EDIT: MCRA SPONSORED 250 ENDURANCE RACING???

RC-Rick would run out of gas for sure!

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlcbr

now THAT, may be worth $449

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Yeah for that $450 would totally be worth it!

Knolly · October 10th, 2013, 08:18 AM

That makes me moist.

stlcbr · October 10th, 2013, 08:21 AM

craziness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4dNYT3EviQ

DCMoney · October 10th, 2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stlcbr

craziness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4dNYT3EviQ

Their matching capri pants are cute.

DCMoney · October 10th, 2013, 10:00 AM

Actually, I may just print some of these for a caliper holder. Would be extremely cheap and quick to print.

Knolly · October 10th, 2013, 11:03 AM

Ah, that's one of those doohickeys where basically it holds it there then you knock it out when reinstalling the axle, right?

stlcbr · October 10th, 2013, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCMoney

Actually, I may just print some of these for a caliper holder. Would be extremely cheap and quick to print.

I guess you slide it in as you slide the axle out? and vice versa

DCMoney · October 10th, 2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Knolly

Ah, that's one of those doohickeys where basically it holds it there then you knock it out when reinstalling the axle, right?

Yeah, I have one printing right now for the 250... Had to guess on the length but I made it longer than I anticipate needing so I can cut it down, then refine after I test it out, hopefully tonight!

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Originally Posted by stlcbr

I guess you slide it in as you slide the axle out? and vice versa

Yeah.

Heres a video guy does it the more difficult way but it still shows you the tool works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Pp7jk9Vs0

stlcbr · October 10th, 2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DCMoney

Yeah, I have one printing right now for the 250... Had to guess on the length but I made it longer than I anticipate needing so I can cut it down, then refine after I test it out, hopefully tonight!

If you get it to work out make sure to pack one with Rick tomorrow

DCMoney · October 10th, 2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by stlcbr

If you get it to work out make sure to pack one with Rick tomorrow

That's what I planned on doing.

stlcbr · October 10th, 2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DCMoney

That's what I planned on doing.

Just talked to Rick. I'll take one of the plastic ones, he said he'd like one made of lead

DCMoney · October 10th, 2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stlcbr

Just talked to Rick. I'll take one of the palstic ones, he said he'd like one made of lead

Well, I was going to make one for him out of gold but I guess lead will do...

stlcbr · October 10th, 2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DCMoney

Well, I was going to make one for him out of gold but I guess lead will do...

I have some gold Krylon paint in the garage, that should be enough for him

DCMoney · October 10th, 2013, 11:56 AM

Knolly · October 10th, 2013, 11:59 AM

Well that was fast! Be sure to print up a spare for me too

DCMoney · October 10th, 2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Knolly

Well that was fast! Be sure to print up a spare for me too

Since there's 3 250's currently at my house I'm going to test it on one tonight and make changes.

DCMoney · October 11th, 2013, 05:31 AM

Cut it down, worked ok, caliper stayed in place but it still can be a pain, changed the rear tire several time yesterday afternoon and it did go much smoother.

While I had the rear off, I looked at the rear spacers and took some measurements, will hopefully print some prototype captive spacers today and test them out this weekend!

stlcbr · October 11th, 2013, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DCMoney

Cut it down, worked ok, caliper stayed in place but it still can be a pain, changed the rear tire several time yesterday afternoon and it did go much smoother.

While I had the rear off, I looked at the rear spacers and took some measurements, will hopefully print some prototype captive spacers today and test them out this weekend!

Nice! Although I had a feeling my bike would end up being the test bike... I'm checking everything for added weights this weekend

DCMoney · October 11th, 2013, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by stlcbr

Nice! Although I had a feeling my bike would end up being the test bike... I'm checking everything for added weights this weekend

Its so nice working on a clean bike! Try to keep it that way!

The cut down caliper holder is in Ricks spare rear tire if you guys want to take it with you to Putnam.

stlcbr · October 11th, 2013, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DCMoney

Its so nice working on a clean bike! Try to keep it that way!

The cut down caliper holder is in Ricks spare rear tire if you guys want to take it with you to Putnam.

I know right

I have to wipe things down a bit from cutting the subframe and trimming the battery tray, little plastic shavings everywhere... But that will get done when I actually have some free time. And it's actually pretty dusty from sitting in the showroom for months lol

If we get any rain it will def get some use!

DCMoney · October 11th, 2013, 01:55 PM

Going to test these out this weekend!

stlcbr · October 11th, 2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DCMoney

Going to test these out this weekend!

Awesome! Does the spacer being plastic effect it at all compared to aluminum ?

krakatak · October 12th, 2013, 03:48 PM

If you bring one (of the caliper holders) to the next MCRA track event, I'll buy one from you for a reasonable sum.

Though the real killer for the quick wheel change was not having an extra set of brake rotors for my rains...ouch. Gonna have to fix that as soon as I see a likely set on ebay...

DCMoney · October 12th, 2013, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlcbr

Awesome! Does the spacer being plastic effect it at all compared to aluminum ?

These are just for testing purposes wanted to see how they well they would "lock" in to the seal, which they did just fine. Going to get some 6061 AL and go to my uncles sometime and turn down a set and see how they do. Depending on how much interest there is I can make quiet a few of these and anodize them just about any color.

Here's video of the printed set.

Link to original page on YouTube.

Quote:

Originally Posted by krakatak

If you bring one (of the caliper holders) to the next MCRA track event, I'll buy one from you for a reasonable sum.

Though the real killer for the quick wheel change was not having an extra set of brake rotors for my rains...ouch. Gonna have to fix that as soon as I see a likely set on ebay...

I've got you covered.

stlcbr · October 12th, 2013, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCMoney

These are just for testing purposes wanted to see how they well they would "lock" in to the seal, which they did just fine. Going to get some 6061 AL and go to my uncles sometime and turn down a set and see how they do. Depending on how much interest there is I can make quiet a few of these and anodize them just about any color.

Here's video of the printed set.

Link to original page on YouTube.

I've got you covered.

That's awesome!! Good job

Knolly · October 22nd, 2013, 07:56 AM

Hey Drew, what were you thinking for the front wheel? I think for weight purposes you can remove not only the speedo piece, but also remove a clip and pull out the ridged piece on the front wheel that hooks into the speedo (if that made any sense at all, haha).

DCMoney · October 22nd, 2013, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knolly

Hey Drew, what were you thinking for the front wheel? I think for weight purposes you can remove not only the speedo piece, but also remove a clip and pull out the ridged piece on the front wheel that hooks into the speedo (if that made any sense at all, haha).

Havent taken off the front wheel yet will work on it in the next few weeks.

Knolly · October 22nd, 2013, 08:06 AM

Cool, let me know if I can do anything to help out!

DCMoney · October 22nd, 2013, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Knolly

Cool, let me know if I can do anything to help out!

Buy me a lathe, that would help!

October 8th, 2013, 08:17 AM	#1
Knolly ninjette.org member Name: Alex Location: Chicago Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Daytona 675 Posts: 79	Anyone with a new-gen 250 near Greenville, SC? Sorry for making a topic for this, but it'll benefit a lot of us so I hope you'll forgive me, haha. After swearing at my wheels while swapping them last weekend, I bugged Fast Frank Racing to see if they could make captive spacers for the 250, and potentially a full quick change axle kit. He said he'd look into it and try to find a bike near him but I figure I could help. Shoot me a PM if you're in the area and I'll put you in touch with him!

October 10th, 2013, 07:36 AM	#3
stlcbr Braaap Name: Ryan Location: St. Louis, MO Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r SE. 2002 Suzuki DRZ400e Supermoto Posts: 90	I say we machine our own __________________________________________________

October 10th, 2013, 07:44 AM	#4
DCMoney ninjette.org guru Name: Andrew Location: St Louis Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ducati 1198s, Triumph D675, Suzuki SV1000s, `08 Ninja 250, `11 Ninja 250, Suzuki GS750 Posts: 368	Once my garage empty's out of all the extra bikes I'm going to take my spacers off and prototype some, then go turn some at my uncles house. Also saw a good way to make the rear caliper captive going to do that this winter as well. __________________________________________________ MCRA.com

October 10th, 2013, 08:12 AM	#11
stlcbr Braaap Name: Ryan Location: St. Louis, MO Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r SE. 2002 Suzuki DRZ400e Supermoto Posts: 90	now THAT, may be worth $449 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha_I8ZzqgZU __________________________________________________

October 10th, 2013, 08:21 AM	#14
stlcbr Braaap Name: Ryan Location: St. Louis, MO Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 ninja 250r SE. 2002 Suzuki DRZ400e Supermoto Posts: 90	craziness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4dNYT3EviQ __________________________________________________

October 10th, 2013, 07:49 AM	#6
Knolly ninjette.org member Name: Alex Location: Chicago Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Daytona 675 Posts: 79	Yeah, all of the captive bits aren't super difficult, I just think it'd be nice to have a source to buy from rather than everyone having to get custom bits. Plus those quick change axles are awesome. Drew, is this the captive rear brake you mean?

October 10th, 2013, 08:08 AM	#10
Knolly ninjette.org member Name: Alex Location: Chicago Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Daytona 675 Posts: 79	Yeah they're way too pricey for my blood too, I just think they're cool, haha. I told him that I don't think there'd be a big enough market for the quick change axles but there definitely would be one for captive spacers. EDIT: MCRA SPONSORED 250 ENDURANCE RACING???

October 10th, 2013, 08:18 AM	#13
Knolly ninjette.org member Name: Alex Location: Chicago Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Daytona 675 Posts: 79	That makes me moist.

October 10th, 2013, 10:00 AM	#16
DCMoney ninjette.org guru Name: Andrew Location: St Louis Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ducati 1198s, Triumph D675, Suzuki SV1000s, `08 Ninja 250, `11 Ninja 250, Suzuki GS750 Posts: 368	Actually, I may just print some of these for a caliper holder. Would be extremely cheap and quick to print. __________________________________________________ MCRA.com

October 10th, 2013, 11:03 AM	#17
Knolly ninjette.org member Name: Alex Location: Chicago Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Daytona 675 Posts: 79	Ah, that's one of those doohickeys where basically it holds it there then you knock it out when reinstalling the axle, right?

October 10th, 2013, 11:56 AM	#25
DCMoney ninjette.org guru Name: Andrew Location: St Louis Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ducati 1198s, Triumph D675, Suzuki SV1000s, `08 Ninja 250, `11 Ninja 250, Suzuki GS750 Posts: 368	__________________________________________________ MCRA.com

October 10th, 2013, 11:59 AM	#26
Knolly ninjette.org member Name: Alex Location: Chicago Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Daytona 675 Posts: 79	Well that was fast! Be sure to print up a spare for me too

October 11th, 2013, 05:31 AM	#28
DCMoney ninjette.org guru Name: Andrew Location: St Louis Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ducati 1198s, Triumph D675, Suzuki SV1000s, `08 Ninja 250, `11 Ninja 250, Suzuki GS750 Posts: 368	Cut it down, worked ok, caliper stayed in place but it still can be a pain, changed the rear tire several time yesterday afternoon and it did go much smoother. While I had the rear off, I looked at the rear spacers and took some measurements, will hopefully print some prototype captive spacers today and test them out this weekend! __________________________________________________ MCRA.com

October 11th, 2013, 01:55 PM	#32
DCMoney ninjette.org guru Name: Andrew Location: St Louis Join Date: Sep 2013 Motorcycle(s): Ducati 1198s, Triumph D675, Suzuki SV1000s, `08 Ninja 250, `11 Ninja 250, Suzuki GS750 Posts: 368	Going to test these out this weekend! __________________________________________________ MCRA.com

October 12th, 2013, 03:48 PM	#34
krakatak ninjette.org member Name: Josh Location: St. Louis, MO Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r Posts: 41	If you bring one (of the caliper holders) to the next MCRA track event, I'll buy one from you for a reasonable sum. Though the real killer for the quick wheel change was not having an extra set of brake rotors for my rains...ouch. Gonna have to fix that as soon as I see a likely set on ebay... Last futzed with by krakatak; October 12th, 2013 at 03:49 PM. Reason: disambiguation

October 22nd, 2013, 07:56 AM	#37
Knolly ninjette.org member Name: Alex Location: Chicago Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Daytona 675 Posts: 79	Hey Drew, what were you thinking for the front wheel? I think for weight purposes you can remove not only the speedo piece, but also remove a clip and pull out the ridged piece on the front wheel that hooks into the speedo (if that made any sense at all, haha).

October 22nd, 2013, 08:06 AM	#39
Knolly ninjette.org member Name: Alex Location: Chicago Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): Daytona 675 Posts: 79	Cool, let me know if I can do anything to help out!

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