January 25th, 2010, 06:23 AM | #1 |
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What are you using for track tires
Thinking of doing a some track days, I would like to get an 08 250R but from a light search on motorcycle superstore and at the pirelli website they do not have the good rubber in the size for the 250. What are you guys that track your 250s using?
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January 25th, 2010, 07:58 AM | #2 |
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Some people are going very fast on Pirellis, using the 150 rear. I personally love Bridgestones. The 090 and 003RS are very good tires. 140 or 150 rear both work fine. You won't use all the tire on the 150 rear, however.
I have recently switched to Michelin Power One race tires and they are incredibly fast and sticky, but the rear is lasting me less than one day. |
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January 25th, 2010, 09:34 AM | #3 |
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I've gone with Bridgestone and am quite happy so far. Currently I have a BT-090 on the front in a 110 and a BT-003r in the rear in a 140.
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January 25th, 2010, 04:52 PM | #4 | |
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January 25th, 2010, 05:05 PM | #5 |
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110 front, 150 rear
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January 25th, 2010, 05:08 PM | #6 |
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On stock rims with no clearance issues, RaceBike? If so, does Michelin make a 140? I'd like to stay as close to stock size as possible. Ride Power Ones and Power race on the Ducati at the track, and love them.
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January 25th, 2010, 05:12 PM | #7 |
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Yes, everything is stock. No clearance issues. They don't make a 140, unfortunately.
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January 25th, 2010, 05:22 PM | #8 |
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Can I get them over the internet? I'm in Florida and the site I normally purchase the Michelins from doesn't carry those sizes. Thanks much for the info, RaceBike.
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January 25th, 2010, 05:33 PM | #9 |
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I'll bet you can find them if you search around a little bit. I get mine at the track.
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January 25th, 2010, 06:32 PM | #10 |
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Thanks guys for the info
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January 26th, 2010, 06:14 AM | #11 |
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hey QTRLITER are you going down to Inde to race
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January 26th, 2010, 07:32 AM | #12 |
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Can I use a 150 on the rear of a pre-gen? Will I need a new wheel because I read somewhere that the 130 that came stock may already too big?
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January 26th, 2010, 10:14 AM | #13 |
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The pre-gen has 16" wheels instead of the 17" wheels on the new model. 16" wheels are limited to old school bias-ply tires. A 130 width tire is the widest you would want to fit to a pre-gen.
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January 26th, 2010, 11:33 AM | #14 |
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I just got a pair of Pirelli Dragon Supercorsas from John over at South Central Race Center. I'm hoping to try them out this Sunday.
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January 26th, 2010, 11:35 AM | #15 |
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Is this the case for all 150 tires, specifically, the BT016? Is it because the tire is pinched? Are you scraping pegs?
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January 26th, 2010, 11:44 AM | #16 | |
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I haven't tried to fit them to the narrower '08 wheels yet.
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January 26th, 2010, 11:53 AM | #17 |
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BTW, are the stock tires on the '09s (IRC) really bad to the point that they are dangerous? I have not pushed them yet. I'm going to upgrade but I'm not sure if I should upgrade now or wear the stockies first.
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January 26th, 2010, 04:43 PM | #18 |
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Yes, they are dangerous. Don't even think of using them on the track.
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January 26th, 2010, 04:45 PM | #19 | |
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Yes, definitely scraping pegs. And boots. And legs. And toes. And the pipe. And the bodywork. Well, you get the idea. Everything scrapes on these things. |
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January 26th, 2010, 04:59 PM | #20 |
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So Richard do you think that the bt-003rs or the bt-16 will be a better track tire since you have used them both just want to know as I will be doing my 1st track day in march and would like to get the most out of the bike thanks
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January 26th, 2010, 05:03 PM | #21 |
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Both are awesome tires. I feel the BT016 is adequate for high speed tracks, but falls short in tight corners. The BT003RS is better, because its softer. Now, this is from a racer's perspective. Either tire will be just great for track days and even novice to intermediate racers.
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January 26th, 2010, 05:04 PM | #22 |
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BTW, I should have Bridgestones in my store pretty quick here. Working on it now
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January 26th, 2010, 05:05 PM | #23 |
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Great your input is much appreciated
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January 26th, 2010, 05:13 PM | #24 |
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one more ??? are you using the 110 or 120 up front
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January 26th, 2010, 05:34 PM | #25 | |
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The BT-003 comes in a 140 size, I think I'll stick with that one as it should fit our rims and not pinched, correct? Any experience with that size by any chance? |
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January 26th, 2010, 06:16 PM | #26 |
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110 front. Yes, the 003RS in the 140 is a great choice. You'll use the entire tire.
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February 26th, 2010, 06:55 PM | #27 |
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Hey Richard I just had the 03rs put on my bike and we had to take them off I noticed when they were mounted and the guy was rolling my bike out side that the rear tire had a wave look to it so we all took a good took at it and found that all the way around the tire it looked wavy have you seen this before they told me they will order a new set and that it is a manufacture defect this was the 150/60 rear tire
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February 26th, 2010, 07:33 PM | #28 |
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Yeah, that doesn't sound right. You will see a straight line between the 3 compounds after many miles, but you shouldn't see anything when its new. Wavy doesn't sound good, either. Can you get a 140 rear?
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February 26th, 2010, 07:53 PM | #29 |
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i could get the 140 but i want the 150, i know that it works, i just have never seen somthing like it i wish i had been able to take a pic
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March 2nd, 2010, 05:54 PM | #30 |
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ok the bt-003rs in the 150/60 is not working on the bike we put 2 diff rear tires on and they were both wavy on the edge of the tire the specs say only for a 4.5 in wheel so i ordered aa 140 so lets see what happends
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March 8th, 2010, 08:24 PM | #31 |
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the 140 fits great and what a great tire cant wait for the 20th to come
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March 29th, 2010, 06:24 PM | #32 |
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I sse a lot of talk of the Pirelli's and Bridgestones, what about Dunlop?
Fwiw, when I bought my 09 Ninja (used) it came with a set of Dunlop's 130/70/17 & 110/70/17. I may be finally doing a track day and am wondering if these tires will work better than the factory tires or not. Otherwise, I may have to I bite the bullet and buy a new set of Bt's.......the preferred choice for the new gen Ninja's. |
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April 14th, 2010, 10:29 AM | #34 |
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So does anybody think they could spout a definitive full part number for the Bridgestone tires?
I need to order them and be sure it's right the first time so I don't waste money messing around. Like, tire number and tire size all together instead of just saying "110 front and 150 rear" because that doesn't help me too much. I have BT-016 and BT-003? where do the BT 090 come in? I'm afraid I need much more of an explanation before I purchase track tires. I find this thread rather confusing. What numbers am I missing before I can finally decide on tire brand, type and size? I still feel like a 60 or a 70 is missing somewhere. Maybe someone can clear this up for everybody once and for all? I'm sure this is not right, but for example.. If someone could type out the full part number and size all together I think it would help a lot of people. BT-016 110/60 front? BT-016 150/???
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@Ninja250 You should find your answers here:
http://mc.bridgestone.co.jp/en/produ...ry/onroad.html
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April 14th, 2010, 10:46 AM | #36 |
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agh,
that link and reviewing stock tire sized helped a lot. Thanks.. signed, -village idiot
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April 14th, 2010, 10:57 AM | #37 |
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crap so still confused a bit.
If I go with bt-016 the rear tire size will be 150/60/17? Isn't stock 130/70/17? How about with the front? 110/70/17 stock replaced by 110/70/17 bt-016?
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110/70R17 front 140/70R17 rear These sizes fit the new-gen perfectly. The 150/60ZR17 016 rear will fit but will be slightly pinched so that you will never use the extreme edges of the tire.
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April 14th, 2010, 11:10 AM | #39 |
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Thanks for clearing that up. Very helpful.
I've been trying to figure this out for a few weeks now for some reason. I used to be a tire man (for cars) and still couldn't see what I was missing with this. I think I was pretty confused when I did the tires each time on my old bikes too. Local shop quoted me $280 on a set of the 16's installed. I'll call back and see if they have the 003's and 090's. Tire width doesn't mean much to me really if I'm getting the most from the tires. (will try for 140's)
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