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View Poll Results: How long do you warm up your ninjette?
I warm it up longer than 5 minutes 5 3.85%
I warm it up between 1 and 5 minutes 76 58.46%
I warm it up, but less than 1 minute 39 30.00%
It needs no warmup at all, just start it and go 10 7.69%
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:13 PM   #1
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to warm-up or not

I've always heard people tell me not to warm up the bike... just start it and go, if its cold thats what the choke is for. but i've heard loads of people who let it warm-up for quite a while before riding on it, and the pre-ride ritual thread made me realize tons of people do this... did a quick search and didn't see a thread so figured i'd start one.

so the question is: do you let it sit turned on while it "warms up" before you start riding?
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:16 PM   #2
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and of course i suck at searching as the similar threads section came up with the post i was looking for *smacks forehead*
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:19 PM   #3
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Depends on how cold it is..
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:22 PM   #4
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Even if its just a couple minutes, I let it warm up. It just runs better at lower RPMs.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:27 PM   #5
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Just long enough till the cold hearted beast doesn't want to bog on throttle.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:28 PM   #6
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:30 PM   #7
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I try not to sit on the bike, start it and just roll off.. Usually ill let it idle for a few(>20) seconds to let the oil circulate a little bit before taking off. Ill only actually warm the bike up for a full minute/while I put my gear on or if its cold outside
Edit: and the choke is usually on, 1500-2000rpm, the whole time until I start rolling

But that's just me, don't take my word for it lol
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:31 PM   #8
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I start it, choke it for a minute or so till it can run without the choke, then ride off
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:33 PM   #9
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:38 PM   #10
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Mine doesn't move very well without warming it. I live on a busy street, so my lil' ninj has to have it's poop in a group before I take off. Otherwise, I'd be a peachdiddy pancake!
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:45 PM   #11
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:48 PM   #12
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Probably depends on the individual bike, its climate and mods. Mine lives in the tropics and runs a bit rich. Always fires up right away, and only needs a little choke. So I just get on and ride without warmup, but I don't thrash it until I've got it up to temp.

Now, I'm nervously looking at thread Alex linked to see what conventional wisdom says . . .
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:49 PM   #13
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Old June 21st, 2011, 12:53 PM   #14
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I usually warm it up for like 5 minutes with the choke on if it's been sitting overnight. Less time if it has only been a couple hours. I tried to cheat the other night and only warm it up for like 2-3 minutes (it was 50°) and when I pulled out on the street, it died and didn't want to start again for like 20 seconds even with the choke on. Good thing no cars were coming and I had room to move to the shoulder. I will be more patient from now on.
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I edited the poll, and to do so I had to wipe the old answers. Sorry about that. But I think this poll will now give some more nuanced information on what we all feel is necessary around warmup.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 01:08 PM   #16
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This is how I do it:
1. Start bike
2. Put on jacket
3. Put on helmet
4. Ride

The bike maybe runs for 1 min before I take off. I don't need the choke to warm it up or keep it running. Now, the winter time is a whole different story... Choke on, start, rev, rev, start, rev, rev, start, ect...
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Old June 21st, 2011, 01:26 PM   #17
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a friend of a friend once told me he "always lets his bike warm up for at least 20 minutes before riding it". claimed it was bad for the engine to do otherwise. he also only wears a helmet... silly squids, tricks are for kids!
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Old June 21st, 2011, 01:30 PM   #18
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i fi haven't ridden it in over 8 hours i'll give it a minute or a touch more and i ride with the choke for a touch, like through my hood.

but if i have been riding on and off through the day i'll just start her and ride in a low gear to get some heat moving... just depends..since we don't really get...COLD weather here...
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Old June 21st, 2011, 02:06 PM   #19
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I warm it up for less than a minute. Just long enough to let the idle stabilize. During the winter my warm up time is much longer.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 02:10 PM   #20
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Just long enough till the cold hearted beast doesn't want to bog on throttle.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 02:33 PM   #21
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How ever long it takes me to finish my smoke and get my helmet and gear on.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 02:48 PM   #22
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I dont need the choke, it idles perfectly at 1100 rpm on a cold start (warm day), I let it idle for about 10 seconds, give it 3-4 quick throttle blips to about 2500 and I am on my way (about 20-25 seconds all in all), I do however drive it like a baby till its warmed up (accelerate slowly and keep the rpms under 4k for ~5 mins).
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Old June 21st, 2011, 02:50 PM   #23
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warm mine up for about 1 minute while i am putting my gear on. bike doesn't take off well when not warmed up enough.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 03:38 PM   #24
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Totally depends on the weather. When it's like 16 degrees out with a 20mph north wind I'll let it warm up enough to come off the temp peg some. In the summer when it's 103 degrees I'll let it warm up 3-5 minutes. Generally I put my boots (and riding pants if cold enough) on, go start the bike, ride the choke a bit to get the idle around 1,500-1,800 (more so in colder weather), then go finish gearing up. That generally takes a few minutes. I generally have to be in fast traffic within a few minutes of leaving my driveway so a cold bog could get me killed. Because oil pressure and circulation is a function of mechanical clearances in the pump and bearings, extended idling has no effect on wear as long as the choke isn't on very hard.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 04:20 PM   #25
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A 2-3 minute warm up is perfect for my bike in warmer weather. Give the throttle a few blips to watch how the engine and tach reacts and if I'm satisfied, I'm off to the races.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 04:35 PM   #26
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I put the choke on to get it rolling, shift into second and cut the choke off. Seems to work just fine and I keep the rpms low. If it's colder out I put the choke back on at a stoplight so I can take off without stalling.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 04:36 PM   #27
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a friend of a friend once told me he "always lets his bike warm up for at least 20 minutes before riding it". claimed it was bad for the engine to do otherwise. he also only wears a helmet... silly squids, tricks are for kids!

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Old June 21st, 2011, 10:57 PM   #28
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Old June 21st, 2011, 11:56 PM   #29
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warming up does many things

lets oil and coolant circulate in the dry areas
warms up the engine and oil close to operating temperature before applying heavy power demands
eliminates low end bog
elongates engine life by NOT running a cold engine

all engines operate best at a certain temperature range

as for the maroon who warms up his bike forever, thats stupid idea
you should never let a bike sit on idle more than 10 min.
though its an exception if you live in really really cold areas

running the bike with choke on is a bad idea too
i forgot the reason why though

voted for 5+ min. to take into account cold weather
but i usually set off when engine reaches MINIMUM 120F (at least on my 636)
250 - as close to 2k on idle, choke off, stock carb settings
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 12:29 AM   #30
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I rarley have to use the choke in the spring and fall. (heated garage) Let her run for 2 min and off I go.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 08:44 AM   #31
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"I warm it up between 1 and 5 minutes"

1. Roll bike out of garage and start.
2. Put on jacket, bring helmet and gloves out.
3. Close and lock garage.
4. Lock luggage.
5. Put on helmet and gloves.
6. Ride off... during the colder months it may still need a little choke to get going depending on how organized and quick I am to get rolling... which is usually between 1-5 min range.
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 11:06 AM   #32
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thanks to that fizzer, i'm super paranoid about having the bike on without me on it. it's slipped into gear more than once without touching the gear selector while idling... thankfully i was sitting on it both times and it died instead of taking off without me. though a family friend of mine once told me a story about a friend of his who had his bike in neutral and he was in front of it revving it when bam, slipped into gear and slammed him into his garage wall. not sure what happened to him though i can only assume the worst :-/
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Old June 22nd, 2011, 12:22 PM   #33
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I let her run full-choke while I put on the jacket, helmet and gloves. Then I ride off with the choke on full for about 1/4 mile. This I slam it down like a mouthful of bad medicine.

Come to think of it, my choke is either on or off...no in-betweens. I should prolly figure out how to fix that.
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A working bike just does not slip into gear, especially first gear.
depends on your definition of a "working bike", i guess. you should look at some of my posts about that bike. not all of us are blessed with brand new transmissions. the ninja has never slipped in on me but that fizzer transmission isn't in the best of conditions. i doubt a brand new baby bike would do it though.
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Old June 23rd, 2011, 08:57 AM   #35
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This is how I do it:
1. Start bike
2. Put on jacket
3. Put on helmet
4. Ride

The bike maybe runs for 1 min before I take off. I don't need the choke to warm it up or keep it running. Now, the winter time is a whole different story... Choke on, start, rev, rev, start, rev, rev, start, ect...

I do the same. By the time I am ready, the bike is ready to. Unless it is cold....
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Long enough that it won't stall out without choke. Seems like a minute if it's left outside, but the garage is really cool inside so my baby needs a few if it was inside.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 05:50 AM   #37
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I choke it just so it wont stall on me when its cold. It takes less than a minute to get the gate open and closed so that's my warmup time. As soon as the bike is in motion, I kill the choke. This doesn't always apply in cold weather.
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 06:24 PM   #38
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Warming the bike up...

I have read and read about where you really have to warm the 250 up before riding and I get that. I let the bike warm up quite a bit this afternoon and took her on a lil ride and she was smooth. Tonight I really did not let her warm up much and found her to be sluggish not real bad but sluggish in mid revving.

I am used to carbed four stroke being cold natured but not like this. The bike only sat a few hours before I rode her again?

Is it just my bike and I am gonna have to let her warm up real good?

She did seem to get better the longer I rode her but a storm came up.

I kinda asked this question before but I had not ridden as much as I did today.
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I usually don't try warming it up at all unless its really cold outside. I heard that was bad for the pregens. I just pull the choke, crank it, adjust the RPMs to 3000, then go. Once I get past 15 mph, I kill the choke. The engine is usually acceptably warm by the time I get to the corner. Hasn't failed me yet.
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If you have not done so already shimming the carb needles helps to lessen the amount of time needed to warm the bike up and you get a little more pep out of her.
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