Fumoto Valve

Cuongism · August 4th, 2011, 11:34 PM

Has anyone used a Fumoto valve on their 250? It replaces your oil drain plug and eliminates the need for crush washers. Helps if you ever overfill you oil and makes changing oil more convenient.

Our drain plug size is 17mm but is that also the thread size?

alex.s · August 4th, 2011, 11:43 PM

i don't have this particular one but i have another generic quick valve... it's got a screw on cap below the quick valve with a rubber seal on it just in case the quick valve leaks... it makes it really easy to change the oil though i wish there was an easier way to get the oil filter cover off...

Cuongism · August 4th, 2011, 11:52 PM

What size thread did you get?

alex.s · August 4th, 2011, 11:56 PM

i honestly can't remember but bikebandit says:
92066: PLUG,OIL DRAIN,12X15

Cuongism · August 4th, 2011, 11:59 PM

Hmmm, sounds like 12mm x 1.5 which makes sense. 675 uses 14mm x 1.5.

alex.s · August 5th, 2011, 12:00 AM

from the other bolts they list it looks like the 15 is the depth? looks like 12mm though yeah

dubojr1 · August 5th, 2011, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

i wish there was an easier way to get the oil filter cover off...

There is an easier way to change the filters but it's expensive...

Gorilla25 · August 5th, 2011, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

There is an easier way to change the filters but it's expensive...

take it to a shop

....after i did that once....nope..not again

dubojr1 · August 5th, 2011, 06:17 AM

Nope... But you can start using regular automotive type filters...

Check out this link: http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=145

Ichiro · August 5th, 2011, 08:35 AM

The size is 12mm-1.5. The Fumoto part # is F-109.
I have installed both the Fumoto valve and the Bergnmen spin on oil filter adapter on my 2008. Extremely high quality products that make changing the oil and filter a breeze. Have used both for about two years and absolutely no problems. Highly recommended.

It should be noted that you will need to install the Fumoto valve in the "old gen" drain plug location since it will hit the housing of the new gen location. Luckily Kawasaki left the old oil drain bolt next to the oil filter even though they added the new one.

Pictures from company ads.
Fumoto.jpg
13-install short oil filter.jpg
Bergmen adapter.jpg

dubojr1 · August 5th, 2011, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichiro

The size is 12mm-1.5. The Fumoto part # is F-109.
I have installed both the Fumoto valve and the Bergnmen spin on oil filter adapter on my 2008. Extremely high quality products that make changing the oil and filter a breeze. Highly recommended.

Pictures from company ads.
Attachment 13506
Attachment 13508
Attachment 13507

You are my hero...

Cuongism · August 5th, 2011, 08:37 AM

Sweet, thanks for confirming. No adaptor needed for the 250?

Ichiro · August 5th, 2011, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuongism

Sweet, thanks for confirming. No adaptor needed for the 250?

Not sure what you mean by adaptor since the Bergmen is an adaptor that allows you to use the standard auto/motorcycle spin-on oil filters on our bikes. So much easier than the drop-in filter assembly that comes stock

As for the Fumoto valve, get the F-109 and install it in the old oil drain hole as I mentioned before. If you mean the extension for the Fumoto valve, you won't need the extension adapter, although I used one. The reason I have the extension is originally I tried to install it in the new gen location and kept hitting the housing trying to screw it in. Thought the extension would allow me to get it in, but it still hit. I put it in the old location without removing the extension because I forgot about it. Can be done either way.

If I get some time after this weekend, I'll try to post up some photos of both products on my bike. Actually I might start a whole new thread if that's OK since the title of this one may not be understood by the majority of readers.

Cuongism · August 5th, 2011, 09:24 AM

Yea, I meant the extension for the Fumoto. Thread it up! It'll definitely help people out. I wish I knew this existed about 6 oil changes ago.

dubojr1 · August 5th, 2011, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ichiro

Not sure what you mean by adaptor since the Bergmen is an adaptor that allows you to use the standard auto/motorcycle spin-on oil filters on our bikes. So much easier than the drop-in filter assembly that comes stock

As for the Fumoto valve, get the F-109 and install it in the old oil drain hole as I mentioned before. If you mean the extension for the Fumoto valve, you won't need the extension adapter, although I used one. The reason I have the extension is originally I tried to install it in the new gen location and kept hitting the housing trying to screw it in. Thought the extension would allow me get it in, but it still hit. I put it in the old location without removing the extension because I forgot about it. Can be done either way.

If I get some time after this weekend, I'll try to post up some photos of both product on my bike. Actually I might start a whole new thread if that's OK since the title of this one may not be understood by the majority of readers.

We have one for the Bergmen here: http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...hlight=Bergmen

Ichiro · August 5th, 2011, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuongism

Yea, I meant the extension for the Fumoto. Thread it up! It'll definitely help people out. I wish I knew this existed about 6 oil changes ago.

You will love it. As easy as opening the spigot on a keg of beer!
Put in the Bergmen as well.

Ichiro · August 5th, 2011, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

We have one for the Bergmen here: http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...hlight=Bergmen

OK. Maybe no need for another thread. Thanks.

dubojr1 · August 30th, 2012, 05:47 AM

alex.s · August 30th, 2012, 10:54 AM

why?

dubojr1 · August 30th, 2012, 12:01 PM

I just figured there has been thousands of new members that has joined that may be interested in these 2 products.

alex.s · August 30th, 2012, 12:02 PM

... oh.

CThunder-blue · August 30th, 2012, 04:50 PM

The adapter is pretty nice, but not really cost effective. If you use good automotive oil filters like a Mobile 1 or K&N, you're looking at $10+ per filter. K&N stock replacement filters is under $5. Never mind the $120+ for the adapter. Each oil filter change will cost you twice what one would have cost. I'm all for convenience, but cost efficiency is important too.

Here's an alternative drain valve that's popular with the R6 guys. http://aggracing.com/store/index.php...&product_id=75

alex.s · August 30th, 2012, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CThunder-blue

Here's an alternative drain valve that's popular with the R6 guys. http://aggracing.com/store/index.php...&product_id=75

this is almost identical to the valve i have. except i paid $7.50 for mine. generic chinese ftw

CThunder-blue · August 30th, 2012, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

this is almost identical to the valve i have. except i paid $7.50 for mine. generic chinese ftw

Have a link?

alex.s · August 30th, 2012, 05:18 PM

sorry, picked it up at a local hardware store in generic packaging. didnt even have a company name on it but it still works well.

Traveler · August 30th, 2012, 05:24 PM

Love the drain valve idea, might have to get one of those.

CThunder-blue · August 30th, 2012, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

sorry, picked it up at a local hardware store in generic packaging. didnt even have a company name on it but it still works well.

Stop flaunting cheap reliable parts if you can't tell us where to get them.

dubojr1 · September 4th, 2012, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CThunder-blue

Stop flaunting cheap reliable parts if you can't tell us where to get them.

August 4th, 2011, 11:34 PM	#1
Cuongism ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cuong Location: San Diego Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: A lot.	Fumoto Valve Has anyone used a Fumoto valve on their 250? It replaces your oil drain plug and eliminates the need for crush washers. Helps if you ever overfill you oil and makes changing oil more convenient. Our drain plug size is 17mm but is that also the thread size?

August 4th, 2011, 11:43 PM	#2
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i don't have this particular one but i have another generic quick valve... it's got a screw on cap below the quick valve with a rubber seal on it just in case the quick valve leaks... it makes it really easy to change the oil though i wish there was an easier way to get the oil filter cover off... __________________________________________________

August 4th, 2011, 11:56 PM	#4
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i honestly can't remember but bikebandit says: 92066: PLUG,OIL DRAIN,12X15 __________________________________________________

August 5th, 2011, 12:00 AM	#6
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	from the other bolts they list it looks like the 15 is the depth? looks like 12mm though yeah __________________________________________________

August 5th, 2011, 06:17 AM	#9
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	Nope... But you can start using regular automotive type filters... Check out this link: http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/pr...roducts_id=145 __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

August 4th, 2011, 11:52 PM	#3
Cuongism ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cuong Location: San Diego Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: A lot.	What size thread did you get?

August 4th, 2011, 11:59 PM	#5
Cuongism ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cuong Location: San Diego Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: A lot.	Hmmm, sounds like 12mm x 1.5 which makes sense. 675 uses 14mm x 1.5.

August 5th, 2011, 08:35 AM	#10
Ichiro ninjette.org member Name: Ichiro Location: So.Cal. Long Beach. Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r(sold). 2013 Kymco Super8 150 Posts: 223	The size is 12mm-1.5. The Fumoto part # is F-109. I have installed both the Fumoto valve and the Bergnmen spin on oil filter adapter on my 2008. Extremely high quality products that make changing the oil and filter a breeze. Have used both for about two years and absolutely no problems. Highly recommended. It should be noted that you will need to install the Fumoto valve in the "old gen" drain plug location since it will hit the housing of the new gen location. Luckily Kawasaki left the old oil drain bolt next to the oil filter even though they added the new one. Pictures from company ads. Fumoto.jpg 13-install short oil filter.jpg Bergmen adapter.jpg

August 5th, 2011, 08:37 AM	#12
Cuongism ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cuong Location: San Diego Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: A lot.	Sweet, thanks for confirming. No adaptor needed for the 250?

August 5th, 2011, 09:24 AM	#14
Cuongism ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cuong Location: San Diego Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r, 2007 Daytona 675 Posts: A lot.	Yea, I meant the extension for the Fumoto. Thread it up! It'll definitely help people out. I wish I knew this existed about 6 oil changes ago.

August 30th, 2012, 05:47 AM	#18
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	__________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

August 30th, 2012, 10:54 AM	#19
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	why? __________________________________________________

August 30th, 2012, 12:01 PM	#20
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	I just figured there has been thousands of new members that has joined that may be interested in these 2 products. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

August 30th, 2012, 12:02 PM	#21
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	... oh. __________________________________________________

August 30th, 2012, 04:50 PM	#22
CThunder-blue ModMy250.com Name: Tri Location: St, Louis Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R, 2005 R6 Posts: A lot.	The adapter is pretty nice, but not really cost effective. If you use good automotive oil filters like a Mobile 1 or K&N, you're looking at $10+ per filter. K&N stock replacement filters is under $5. Never mind the $120+ for the adapter. Each oil filter change will cost you twice what one would have cost. I'm all for convenience, but cost efficiency is important too. Here's an alternative drain valve that's popular with the R6 guys. http://aggracing.com/store/index.php...&product_id=75 __________________________________________________ The www.ModMy250.com guy

August 30th, 2012, 05:18 PM	#25
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	sorry, picked it up at a local hardware store in generic packaging. didnt even have a company name on it but it still works well. __________________________________________________

August 30th, 2012, 05:24 PM	#26
Traveler ninjette.org newbie Name: Chad Location: Kansas Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 Posts: 1	Love the drain valve idea, might have to get one of those.

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