http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/SPEED-STRENGTH-RUN-WITH-THE-BULLS-SHOE

I came across these today, and I'm thinking about giving them a try. I like the casual look with the protection and support for riding.

Opinions?

I didn't try and find the thread, but this has been discussed and the consensus is that they are worthless. You may as well wear street shoes.

Ah, I see. I probably shouldn't have posted that in the first place. It's pretty much a guarantee that everyone will call squid on something like that. I'm not gonna buy full length boots for everyday riding. No matter what you get, they'll be like MX boots and you'll walk around looking like you have saddle sores. The only real problem with these is that they allow your anke to flex. It increases the risk of ankle injury, but I'm mostly concerned with impact resistance, and these seem like they would do the job.

No - you want the ankle protection. Who cares how cool you look? Most boots can tuck under your jeans anyway so they're hardly noticeable and everybody has one kind of boot or another that fits them so well you don't even notice they're not shoes.

Protection first - appearance later. Full boots.

My old high top Vans it is.

My old high top Vans it is.

How's that a good idea?:rolleyes:

Honestly, I think the majortiy of people on here are a little over the top with the gear stuff. I picture everyone on here wearing full racing leathers, gloves, boots, etc to work everyday.

i'm like you and i simply can't wear a full boot to work everyday and walk around in them. Also, like you, i'm even more concerned with impact protection and my foot being drug under my bike (roadrash) than my ankle bending. There are tons of factors that come into play. Obviously you get the most optimal protection with a full boot. No one needs to tell you that.

But the point of all of that was to say that i have a similar pair of S & S boots. They cover my ankle and foot fine as far as impact protection or sliding would go. But i realized quickly that my work boots are essentially the same thing and are actually more comfortable to wear. basically, if you like them, get 'em. they'll off about the same protection as an average pair of 3/4 work boots.

How's that a good idea?:rolleyes:

I already own them, and as I stated, I'm not buying over-the-calf boots. The purpose of those boots is to immobilize the ankle. That's what helps prevent injury. I get it. I also want to be able to walk with them on and not have to carry shoes with me.

you aren't going to be able to walk if you crash in flip flops.

and no, hightop vans are no better then flipflops.

you dont need over the calf dirt race boots. just get something that will actually help. they make plenty that go unnoticed

You realize that was an incredibly ignorant statement, correct? Flip flops and actual shoes are very different. MX boots and street boots, on the other hand, are basically the same thing.

Opinions?

Ah, I see. I probably shouldn't have posted that in the first place. It's pretty much a guarantee that everyone will call squid on something like that. I'm not gonna buy full length boots for everyday riding. No matter what you get, they'll be like MX boots and you'll walk around looking like you have saddle sores. The only real problem with these is that they allow your anke to flex. It increases the risk of ankle injury, but I'm mostly concerned with impact resistance, and these seem like they would do the job.

Well, you did ask for opinions :rolleyes:

3mhXJiHluOg

Yes, I did ask for opinions. I never fell back on that...

If you're implying that they'll come off that easily, I assume you missed the laces and strap across the ankle. It's not really clear what point you are trying to make.

Well, you did ask for opinions :rolleyes:


I bet he's glad his shoe didn't go over the edge...lol

I bet he's glad his shoe didn't go over the edge...lol

The bike totally saved it. lol

My opinion is that you really aren't looking for opinions as much as you're looking for conformation on what you've already decided. Which is fine, other than you asked for opinions. :D

It's amazing how people sacrifice the chance of severely damaging their ankles/lower legs in the event of a crash just because of a small inconvenience, which really isn't much of one, it just requires putting some shoes in a backpack.

:crazy:

So you come on the internet, ask for suggestions, but then get annoyed because someone's trying to offer advice to get the best protection? Then don't get them if you don't want to, he was just saying that if you crash in regular shoes your risk of breaking your ankle is much higher, and a broken ankle means no walking on it for at least several weeks.
I ride almost every single day that I can and I still wear full gear including boots over the calf (smx-5's) and can walk around in them just fine, so saying you won't be able to walk around in boots without even having a pair is just an excuse for you to not get them. You know from the second you look at the boots what they have to offer or lack, so what more are you looking for, approval?

And to ninja assassin, I doubt many wear full race leathers every day but I'd say most wear most of the gear minus riding pants every day. I don't see how being protected is over the top? I've never heard anyone who has crashed wish they had less gear on, ever. Nor do many people really give a s**t what others say about them wearing all their gear, I know I don't.

This isn't towards anyone specific, but honestly, no one really cares if you wear gear or not, it's your choice and you're the one who has to live with whatever may happen. People on here, many who have experience crashing, try to steer people in the right direction to help reduce their risk of injury because no one wants to see a fellow rider out for several weeks/months because what fun is that? Then you have people like Jiggles all over the forum!

People on here, many who have experience crashing, try to steer people in the right direction to help reduce their risk of injury because no one wants to see a fellow rider out for several weeks/months because what fun is that? Then you have people like Jiggles all over the forum!

Jiggles Oh, perish the thought. Jigglemaster to the power of whatever? Not good. :eek::D

Well, you did ask for opinions :rolleyes:

3mhXJiHluOg

That seems kind of dumb.. He has knee pucks on his leather pants and what looks to be a leather jacket, and yet he rides with plain old sneaks? :confused:

Personally I wear these:
TCX X Cube (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/tcx-x-cube-boots)
http://images2.revzilla.com/product_images/0024/8081/X-cube_detail.JPG

I understand the problem behind wearing full boots all day every day, as I did it for several months. I got so irritated I stooped down to shoes that are merely made of canvas. I didn't like it to begin with, so I set out to find a reasonable alternative. Only problem I have with them so far is they are not quite as breathable as they claim. I've worn them at least 6 out of 7 days a week for almost a year now.

Here's something neat. I just went back and read through what I had said to make sure I wasn't coming off as a major jerk. As it turns out, people just made assumptions. All I said was I would stick to what I'm wearing now. If the ones I posted aren't any better, why bother, right? I asked for opinions and I got opinions. I expressed my own opinions, and I got a lashing.

http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/SPEED-STRENGTH-RUN-WITH-THE-BULLS-SHOE

I came across these today, and I'm thinking about giving them a try. I like the casual look with the protection and support for riding.

Opinions?

These are actually an excellent choice of shoes for riding. Even though they won't prevent your ankle from breaking they will prevent you from walking away from a crash, good find :thumbup: Then you can sit on your ass for 6 weeks, **** your pants and collect disability. My life has never been better.

I already own them, and as I stated, I'm not buying over-the-calf boots. The purpose of those boots is to immobilize the ankle. That's what helps prevent injury. I get it. I also want to be able to walk with them on and not have to carry shoes with me.

Can't walk in full boots huh? Have you ever tried it? Why don't YOU stop making ignorant statements. I (used to) go to school in my full length TCX S-Race boots and walk around campus all day long. I can walk fine in them, don't look awkward and they are comfy as hell. I would also wear them to work (changed into dress shoes most days) but on casual days I would wear my boots for the whole 9 hour shift. Thats right, I would stand all day long selling to customers in full length motorcycle boots. People don't notice unless they look down and see the metal on the side of the boot. Stop making excuses and man up to the responsibility that comes with riding, because if you don't give a **** about yourself, no one will give a **** about you either.


Honestly, I think the majortiy of people on here are a little over the top with the gear stuff.

You're going to have fun crashing :thumbup:


i'm like you and i simply can't wear a full boot to work everyday and walk around in them. Also, like you, i'm even more concerned with impact protection and my foot being drug under my bike (roadrash) than my ankle bending. There are tons of factors that come into play. Obviously you get the most optimal protection with a full boot. No one needs to tell you that.

But the point of all of that was to say that i have a similar pair of S & S boots. They cover my ankle and foot fine as far as impact protection or sliding would go. But i realized quickly that my work boots are essentially the same thing and are actually more comfortable to wear. basically, if you like them, get 'em. they'll off about the same protection as an average pair of 3/4 work boots.

IMPACT PROTECTION! LOL! Well **** my ankles but gee I sure hope my footses are ok :rofl:

Yes, I did ask for opinions. I never fell back on that...

If you're implying that they'll come off that easily, I assume you missed the laces and strap across the ankle. It's not really clear what point you are trying to make.

My point: That those are basically tennis shoes and really do not protect feet as well as motorcycle boots.

I would suspect that they would come off or wear through in a wreck.

Wear what you want. YMMV.

Jeff

Personally I wear these:
TCX X Cube (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/tcx-x-cube-boots)
http://images2.revzilla.com/product_images/0024/8081/X-cube_detail.JPG

I understand the problem behind wearing full boots all day every day, as I did it for several months. I got so irritated I stooped down to shoes that are merely made of canvas. I didn't like it to begin with, so I set out to find a reasonable alternative. Only problem I have with them so far is they are not quite as breathable as they claim. I've worn them at least 6 out of 7 days a week for almost a year now.

Those seem like a good option. They're almost like a tougher version of a pair of driving shoes. They look really comfortable. They also look like they have a good amount of protection without being like a gigantic space boot.

I think the concern people have is just that you're not taking advice.

My stance... The whole point of wearing a boot is to protect from the impact of hitting a hard surface or the bike landing on you, twisting your ankle, or from scraping as you slide along the ground. those boots accomplish two of those three goals, two goals more than a flip flop. What they dont accomplish is ankle demobilization. The issue is, you're just as likely to brake your ankle from compressing it as you are twisting it. Providing demobilization will greatly reduce your chance of braking your ankle, which is your ultimate goal in the first place.

As far as looks, most riders want to get off a bike looking like they just got out of a car. The problem that creates is many people don't wear enough gear. Think about the protection a car provides a driver. You want that same protection out of your gear regardless of weather.

If someone sees you walking around with a ton of gear, the average person will think you're a smart, safety conscious rider. Only the squids will think that you're an idiot for wearing more gear than they do, and they're not the ones to care about.

My point: That those are basically tennis shoes and really do not protect feet as well as motorcycle boots.

I would suspect that they would come off or wear through in a wreck.

Wear what you want. YMMV.

Jeff

That could very well be true. It's hard to say without trying them. I would assume their ability to come off would be based mostly on how tight you tie them. I tie my shoes tight, so I wouldn't think it would be a problem.

I totally understand your point. These obviously aren't the best option. I just don't think that these aren't an option at all. From the description, they are much sturdier than a regular shoe.

Can't walk in full boots huh? Have you ever tried it?

Only for about the last decade, but what do I know. I guess I have to hit a car before I'll ever be as wise as you, oh holy one.

I feel like I own an apology to everyone here but Jiggles. I came off as being defensive, and I didn't mean to be that way. I do welcome all positive recommendations.

Unfortunately there are handfuls of people here, including Jiggles, who speak from experience.

Jiggles would have horrible walking problems, likely for life, if not for his boots. He was on the bike for no more than 15 seconds before that crash happened.

I had a police officer look at the ankle high boots I was wearing after a small crash and say its a miracle I was standing next to him.

We're telling you to suck it up and find boots that are comfortable, and they do exist, because it's for your safety. Ankle highs are false security. Look for the pictures of the guys with their ankle bones sticking out just above their Streetburner shoes. Thank god they stayed on, huh?

Ride safe, gear up for the crash.

Honestly, I think the majortiy of people on here are a little over the top with the gear stuff. I picture everyone on here wearing full racing leathers, gloves, boots, etc to work everyday.

i'm like you and i simply can't wear a full boot to work everyday and walk around in them.

I just keep another set of shoes at work, and change when I get there...

To sum up this whole discussion-

http://youtu.be/Uh7tgX_Uaqs

And Jiggles, I'll even apologize to you, despite your insulting, self-righteous attitude.

I should note that these TCX shoeboots come about halfway up your shin. As a student, storage and time for an extra set of boots is not something I have. At work, I typically will wear the full boots as the time required to take them off/on is actually less than the TCX shoeboots. In fact, there were times where instead of bringing an extra pair of shoes with my full boots (Sidi STs) I would just carry them and walk around barefoot.

When I was looking at shoes, ankle high was an absolute nono for me. There were a very limited amount of shoes/boots that went up the shin, which is why I chose the TCX boots. Having been said, the key to the comfort in walking of these shoeboots is not how free the ankle is, but instead the fact that they are not gargantuan in size and the sole is flexible. The ankle, in reality, is very secure. Perhaps not on par with race boots, but about the same if not greater than a hard part ankle brace.

There is also something to be said that if you do not twist your ankle, you will twist your knee... Neither of which are things I'd enjoy much.

And trust me when I say this, I am an expert at accepting funny looks from people when I walk by. I walk around sounding like I am in high heels because of clipless road shoes (clack clack clack). I'll also slide on the floors with them (maintenance don't like that so much). I buy groceries with full boots and people tell me I look like the terminator (pants won't fit over my boots). I also walk around looking like a lightbulb 50% of the time with a fluorescent yellow jacket. Me looking normal is not what I care about. I am not sure if many of you have really tried walking what equates to a few miles a day in boots, but I have, and it's not comfortable. Maybe you have and your boots and feet just go better together than mine do. But unlike the song, these boots weren't made for walking.

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/36/35780/ITEM/Tour-Master-Solution-WP-2-0-Road-Boots.aspx

I have these Tourmaster boots and they are great.
Low profile that fit under jeans and dress boots. (even unzipped)

They do not offer the same amount of protection that a full race boot would, but these are a happy medium. When you need to walk around, just unzip the side and move along.

Someone mentioned the TCX X-Cube, I own the X-Square which are a good choice as well. I have no problem walking around and they're definitely more confortable than my Vans. I crashed with them too and they held up fine, well for 30 MPH.

look Goom. you come here and ask a legitimate question, then get mad that the answer isnt "naw bro you're good with the **** shoes you wear that offer no protection"

sneakers are no better than flipflops in a motorcycle crash. useless "motorcycle shoes" that offer no ankle protection are also, completely useless in a crash. its fine if you dont feel you need protection for a crash. but what people are arguing with you on is what protection actually is

if you are going to make enough effort to question the quality of the motorcycle specific shoe you are thinking about buying, why not care enough to listen to the results of the question?

dont be offended when i say that you are acting like a foolish child in denial of the possible consequences of your own decisions. because it's true, and taking offense will do nothing to remedy the situation. do you like walking? then wear some real boots.

when you say things like "i knew people would call me a squid" why dont you listen to that thought for a half second? why did you know people would call you a squid for it? because you knew its a bad idea put yourself in the position where a small mistake like dropping the bike at a light at a stand still leads to you needing reconstructive ankle surgury and having troubles walking for the rest of your life. you already knew what needed to happen, you just wanted someone to say "naw bro its cool, i ride in flipflops" so you can feel better about the decision you know is wrong.

That seems kind of dumb.. He has knee pucks on his leather pants and what looks to be a leather jacket, and yet he rides with plain old sneaks? :confused:

Personally I wear these:
TCX X Cube (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/tcx-x-cube-boots)
http://images2.revzilla.com/product_images/0024/8081/X-cube_detail.JPG

I understand the problem behind wearing full boots all day every day, as I did it for several months. I got so irritated I stooped down to shoes that are merely made of canvas. I didn't like it to begin with, so I set out to find a reasonable alternative. Only problem I have with them so far is they are not quite as breathable as they claim. I've worn them at least 6 out of 7 days a week for almost a year now.

Man I completely overlooked these somehow when I was shopping for boots. I want some now.

look Goom. you come here and ask a legitimate question, then get mad that the answer isnt "naw bro you're good with the **** shoes you wear that offer no protection"

sneakers are no better than flipflops in a motorcycle crash. useless "motorcycle shoes" that offer no ankle protection are also, completely useless in a crash. its fine if you dont feel you need protection for a crash. but what people are arguing with you on is what protection actually is

if you are going to make enough effort to question the quality of the motorcycle specific shoe you are thinking about buying, why not care enough to listen to the results of the question?

dont be offended when i say that you are acting like a foolish child in denial of the possible consequences of your own decisions. because it's true, and taking offense will do nothing to remedy the situation. do you like walking? then wear some real boots.

when you say things like "i knew people would call me a squid" why dont you listen to that thought for a half second? why did you know people would call you a squid for it? because you knew its a bad idea put yourself in the position where a small mistake like dropping the bike at a light at a stand still leads to you needing reconstructive ankle surgury and having troubles walking for the rest of your life. you already knew what needed to happen, you just wanted someone to say "naw bro its cool, i ride in flipflops" so you can feel better about the decision you know is wrong.

First of all, I already apologized. Secondly, you want me to listen to you after you just COMPLETELY DISREGARDED EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID. Forgive me for only riding in ONLY a helmet, gloves, jacket, pants, and high top shoes. Shame on you for assuming you know me.

The reason I figured people would call squid is because that's what people like to do when they don't have any real input but want to be heard.

I believe I also made it clear that I understood the possible consequences of my actions.

So...get off your soapbox, son.

nobody wants an apology. people disregard what you say when you are blatantly wrong. i am not assuming i know you, all i know is that you ride in hightops. so let me take a different direction here;

stop being an idiot. people are trying to help you but you are acting like a child. learn from the painful and stupid mistakes we have made and keep yourself from making the same stupid mistakes we did. we arent trying to make you feel bad. we arent trying to make ourselves feel better. its simple; someone is doing something that will lead to a terrible injury, we are trying to prevent that injury.

http://www.ironpony.com/ironponydirect/product.asp/ImageName/AYC11-RIDGE-BOOT.jpg/Brand/ALPINESTARS%20AYC/Class2/Footwear/Class3/Street%20Boots-Mens/Class1/

http://www.ironpony.com/ironponydirect/product.asp/ImageName/AYC11-WEB-GORE-TEX-BOOT-BLACK.jpg/Brand/ALPINESTARS%20AYC/Class2/Footwear/Class3/Street%20Boots-Mens/Class1/

nobody wants an apology. people disregard what you say when you are blatantly wrong. i am not assuming i know you, all i know is that you ride in hightops. so let me take a different direction here;

stop being an idiot. people are trying to help you but you are acting like a child. learn from the painful and stupid mistakes we have made and keep yourself from making the same stupid mistakes we did. we arent trying to make you feel bad. we arent trying to make ourselves feel better. its simple; someone is doing something that will lead to a terrible injury, we are trying to prevent that injury.

Just stop being a dick about it. That's the one simple request I'm making. I actually took the constructive information that was given to me. It made sense. All you said was buy full boots.

Calling a person childish and an idiot is a sure-fire way to get them to not listen to you. Apparently, no one ever taught you that you'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

its your feet.

I want a pair like these but only want to pay like $40 shipped =) Any tips?
http://images2.revzilla.com/product_images/0024/8081/X-cube_detail.JPG

Sell one of your bikes! Or rob someone of 90 dollars, problem solved! (Don't really do these things)

Sell one of your bikes! Or rob someone of 90 dollars, problem solved! (Don't really do these things)

I wish I could =) My White '06 pregen has no title =\
(i bought it as a "salvage with no title" then restored it)
I've got about $1400 tied up in it and would like to sell it, but may just try the long road of applying for a salvage title... no guarantees there.
It would make a GREAT track bike if anyone is looking!
Shoooooot. If I could sell it here, I would buy TWO pair of boots and give one pair away here free :thumbup:

If you try to sell it, someone, somewhere will try to buy it. It's just a matter of when. ;)

i just wear old work boots or NIKE SB

Personally I wear these:
TCX X Cube (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/tcx-x-cube-boots)
http://images2.revzilla.com/product_images/0024/8081/X-cube_detail.JPG


I've never seen or tested these in person but they look only slightly less useless than a pair of sneakers. I wouldn't recommend these but then again I do enjoy walking (or at least I have fond memories)

Only for about the last decade, but what do I know. I guess I have to hit a car before I'll ever be as wise as you, oh holy one.

Not sure what hitting a car and walking in boots has to do with eachother, I recommended full boots before the accident, more-so after. My point is that you can find a pair of boots that will be comfortable and won't make you look like a club footed hunchback. The TCX S-Race Boots (http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=10461) are what I use. They are known for being comfortable which is why I don't have a problem wearing them all day. ****, I get home and don't bother changing because they are so damn comfortable.

I feel like I own an apology to everyone here but Jiggles. I came off as being defensive, and I didn't mean to be that way. I do welcome all positive recommendations.

I don't need an apology, I'm a bitter egotistical prick.

To sum up this whole discussion-

http://youtu.be/Uh7tgX_Uaqs

And Jiggles, I'll even apologize to you, despite your insulting, self-righteous attitude.

I said I don't need an apology! Alright fine, ilybronohomo :caked:

I want a pair like these but only want to pay like $40 shipped =) Any tips?
http://images2.revzilla.com/product_images/0024/8081/X-cube_detail.JPG

Take a small piece of cardboard and put it around your ankle while you have your sneakers on, then use duct tape to attach the cardboard to your tennis shoe, it may not look pretty but it should hold up just as well.

I've never seen or tested these in person but they look only slightly less useless than a pair of sneakers. I wouldn't recommend these but then again I do enjoy walking (or at least I have fond memories)



Not sure what hitting a car and walking in boots has to do with eachother, I recommended full boots before the accident, more-so after. My point is that you can find a pair of boots that will be comfortable and won't make you look like a club footed hunchback. The TCX S-Race Boots (http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=10461) are what I use. They are known for being comfortable which is why I don't have a problem wearing them all day. ****, I get home and don't bother changing because they are so damn comfortable.



I don't need an apology, I'm a bitter egotistical prick.



I said I don't need an apology! Alright fine, ilybronohomo :caked:



Take a small piece of cardboard and put it around your ankle while you have your sneakers on, then use duct tape to attach the cardboard to your tennis shoe, it may not look pretty but it should hold up just as well.

don't forget the PVC pipe roll cage.

... <3

don't forget the PVC pipe roll cage.

... <3

I'm still gna do that one day

has your crash caused you to rethink the material? maybe if you fill the pvc with expanding foam like a birds wing. or better yet, just use gum.

When Brian and I get together we tend to come up with some incredibly impossible ideas for things that will probably never happen. I still need to carve a shotgun cane that dispenses percocet when you cock it and turn one of my spare modular helmets into a storm trooper helmet to go with that storm trooper motorcycle suit. Oh yeah, I'm also going to make a 250 that drives into a jet ski and powers it. So you just ride your bike onto the jetski, lock it in and power it, gna be awesome. Oh and then a motorcycle plane. Yea its got wings and propellers and everything and you drive off to gain speed then switch engine power to the propellers and take off. Good ****, good ****...

When Brian and I get together we tend to come up with some incredibly impossible ideas for things that will probably never happen. I still need to carve a shotgun cane that dispenses percocet when you cock it and turn one of my spare modular helmets into a storm trooper helmet to go with that storm trooper motorcycle suit. Oh yeah, I'm also going to make a 250 that drives into a jet ski and powers it. So you just ride your bike onto the jetski, lock it in and power it, gna be awesome. Oh and then a motorcycle plane. Yea its got wings and propellers and everything and you drive off to gain speed then switch engine power to the propellers and take off. Good ****, good ****...

where do you get your weed

I don't smoke weed but my brother grows it and my other brother smokes it every day. It's possible the fumes have seeped through my wall and deeply burrowed into my brain

must be the percocet

I stopped taking that a few weeks ago. Perhaps its a massive backup of semen poisoning me

they say its safer to spit. but i admire the conviction.

Come on guys, you all know tennis shoes are the best bet for riding, See when you get in a wreck they fly off your feet saving you from having to buy a new pair of shoes! I mean you have a sweet pair of jordens on to impress the ladies on your bike you cant have those getting messed up. I look at it as saving money.

they say its safer to spit. but i admire the conviction.

anything to please you, papa

I've never seen or tested these in person but they look only slightly less useless than a pair of sneakers. I wouldn't recommend these but then again I do enjoy walking (or at least I have fond memories)

What do you see wrong with them? I watched Revzillas review and they seemed pretty good to me. I mean they aren't the best but it seemed like they'd protect me fine.

What boots do (or did) you have when you crashed?

What do you see wrong with them? I watched Revzillas review and they seemed pretty good to me. I mean they aren't the best but it seemed like they'd protect me fine.

What boots do (or did) you have when you crashed?

Simply put, they don't look protective enough. Did you not read the rest of the post cuz I stated what I wear in it with a link, lol. TCX S-Race boots

And hello fellow San Josesisian

Simply put, they don't look protective enough. Did you not read the rest of the post cuz I stated what I wear in it with a link, lol. TCX S-Race boots

And hello fellow San Josesisian

Haha whoops no I didn't, the post was too long and I was lazy. :D

I see. Hello, San Hozé person jiggles.

people look at a boot and think "yeah that'll protect me"... but i'm wondering what they think it will protect them from? picture tipping your bike over at a stand still. big thud. ok now put your foot under it and drop it again. ok now add 60mph asphalt underneath. if you still think the boot will protect you then its probably a good bood. most of the low-end "motorcycle shoes" you see are little more then sneakers with toe pads

people look at a boot and think "yeah that'll protect me"... but i'm wondering what they think it will protect them from? picture tipping your bike over at a stand still. big thud. ok now put your foot under it and drop it again. ok now add 60mph asphalt underneath. if you still think the boot will protect you then its probably a good bood. most of the low-end "motorcycle shoes" you see are little more then sneakers with toe pads

The TCX boots have polyurethane ankle support at least.

But I think my next set will be some track ones.

The image makes it look like it is more than just support, it looks like there is a plastic plate that covers the spot on the ankle I broke, specifically to mitigate that type of break.

Yeah, the Cube has a big plate covering your whole ankle pretty much and reinforcement all around the heel I think.

I have the Square and it has some ankle coverage and reinforcement but not as much.

Trailerboy531 has the tcx boots i think. they aren't bad

I definitely don't...

what do you have?

SIDI ST Airs. Duh.

close enough :p

I don't get these threads. Have you ever worn race boots? I wear the same boots Rossi does and they are perfectly comfortable. I wear them everywhere and have walked hours in them. Under jeans they look normal even with the steel slider. I can walk fine in them and don't look wierd walking either. Although I'm in the military and used to wearing boots 12+ hours a day. Man up.

I don't get these threads. Have you ever worn race boots? I wear the same boots Rossi does and they are perfectly comfortable. I wear them everywhere and have walked hours in them. Under jeans they look normal even with the steel slider. I can walk fine in them and don't look wierd walking either. Although I'm in the military and used to wearing boots 12+ hours a day. Man up.

I don't know man, I'm fine wearing hefty boots, but my Sidi ST's simply don't sit right with me walking. They rub in all the wrong places. Perfect for riding though.

I don't get these threads. Have you ever worn race boots? I wear the same boots Rossi does and they are perfectly comfortable. I wear them everywhere and have walked hours in them. Under jeans they look normal even with the steel slider. I can walk fine in them and don't look wierd walking either. Although I'm in the military and used to wearing boots 12+ hours a day. Man up.

What boots does Rossi wear?

Wearing these.

http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=9023

They do have a hinge at the ankle though, probably makes walking easier.

Ahh, see I think part of the difference between what some of us (for me Sidi ST's) and boots like those is they don't have as much armor in the shin/calf/above the ankle as it is designed to be incorporated with the shin/calf/above the ankle armor that many suits (Dainese in particular) have. My Hein Gericke suit doesn't have shin armor, and as such the boots take place. As a result, the hard parts seem to make it more difficult to walk. On top of that, the toebox can be kind of uncomfortable after a while.

Ahh, see I think part of the difference between what some of us (for me Sidi ST's) and boots like those is they don't have as much armor in the shin/calf/above the ankle as it is designed to be incorporated with the shin/calf/above the ankle armor that many suits (Dainese in particular) have. My Hein Gericke suit doesn't have shin armor, and as such the boots take place. As a result, the hard parts seem to make it more difficult to walk. On top of that, the toebox can be kind of uncomfortable after a while.

Inside that sleeve is a carbon fiber shell that wraps around your leg, it has a lot of protection. It's just a boot designed to go under your pants, so it doesn't show on the outside.

I saw that! But that's all there is, you see? It's a CF brace with some rear support on the calf. On the something like the ST or even the other Dainese 'Out' boots, there is tons of plastic on top of pretty thick leather surrounding the calf area. Part of this is because the boots are designed as more of an exoskeleton.

See the ST
http://images2.revzilla.com/product_images/0022/7675/sidi_ST_black600.jpg

Personally, it is not the brace itself that makes the boot uncomfortable to walk in, but instead the remaining bulk surrounding the calf. The brace spans out to more plastic that wraps around and the calf, and then of course there is the shin and the remaining bulk of leather/Lorica beneath it all.

Like I said before, perhaps some peoples feet and their boots get along better than those of us who are looking for other solutions.

Yeah, out boots are pretty crazy and I could imagine quite a bit more restrictive. I find all that extra plastic a bit overkill. My boots underneath my leathers provide extensive protection as is.

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/alpinestars-fastlane-shoes

I'm wearing these and they are super comfy and light. Work great as every day shoes as well. They have good protection on the side of the food and ankle.

I got these Dainese...
http://www.cyclegear.com/eng/product/torque_out_motorcycle_boots/web1001654

They are very comfy and offer lots of protection. But they squeak when I walk. Haha. I need to spray some WD40 on the ankle joint thingy.

I still occasionally wear tennis shoes but when I do my feet feel very exposed. I don't like it.

Alpinestars SMX5


All the best gear, all the time. Period.

http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/SIDI-ON-ROAD-GORETEX-BOOTS

I'm digging these. Not really in my ideal price range at the moment, but I'd consider them in the not-so-distant future.

if you are looking for that type of boot, check out the tourmaster solution. i have a pair, they are decent.

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/tour-master-solution-20-wp-boots?utm_campaign=Footwear&utm_medium=base&utm_keyword=tour-master-solution-20-wp-boots&utm_source=Google&adtype=pla&kw={keyword}&gclid=CL2G2aTpq7ACFUQ0QgodJ1FcVQ

How well do those fit? I like the straps on the Sidis because they seem like they would keep them plenty snug around the ankle. I like for my boots to fit tight on my feet, and sometimes I have issues with my feet sliding around with anything that I can't make tight around my foot/ankle because of my calves.

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dainese-ssc-charlie-shoe

I've been debating possibly picking up a pair of these as an alternative to wearing my boots all of the time, especially days I have class or happen to go out with some friends. I don't mind changing shoes at work, but I don't always have a place to store my boots for class or when I'm out. I know they won't be as protective as a full boot, I want to see how much rigidity it has around the ankle.

^ Pointless

More than likely. Has mildly more protection than regular shoes though.

Wear some latex gloves too, since those have mildly more protection than nothing

Funny.

Still true though. You can't substitute the protection boots offer. If you don't want to wear them or deal with them, then just wear tennis shoes. I can't see the benefits of paying over $100 for riding shoes.

The only ones that appear to offer any ankle protection (rigidity) are these:
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/alpinestars-fastlane-shoes

And I still wouldn't waste my money on them.

heres the test for motorcycle boots... put them on and try to break your ankle. can you break your ankle? not good enough.

I got these Dainese...
http://www.cyclegear.com/eng/product/torque_out_motorcycle_boots/web1001654

They are very comfy and offer lots of protection. But they squeak when I walk. Haha. I need to spray some WD40 on the ankle joint thingy.

I still occasionally wear tennis shoes but when I do my feet feel very exposed. I don't like it.

I have last years model of the smx 5 plus that I wear almost everyday, and the squeak like a mofo! I'm looking to get that fixed too, I'll start with the WD40.

I've been looking for some boots that have top notch protection but is casual looking enough to wear around the office.