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rojoracing53
August 13th, 2012, 08:52 AM
What level of protection do you normally ride with.*

I'm still pretty new to riding in the street, I still have my permit because I've be to lazy to go back for my M-1 license, that being said I don't lack riding(racing) experience. *

The only true gear I have is my custom racing leathers(Helimot) with all the gear that goes with it. Although I never go canyon riding for fun, I got the ninja solely for committing purposes so I never use the racing gear. I normally wear jeans and a normal non riding jacket(yes I know it's not safe) because everything has to pack into my Givi tail box for when I park at a remote trail head and go running. Even textile pants and jacket won't fit in the box witch is why I've procrastinated on purchasing a set. I don't know why but I feel a bit ridiculous wearing my racing gear to go cursing the roads, like if I'm over dressing and being to flashy, yeah it probably sounds stupid. * *

I was thinking of showing up for my first group ride and noticed the small clause at the bottom(show up in gear or be a :squid:) that made me smile and think a minute. *If I don't have to stop to pack my stuff and don't plan on going into a restaurant(molded back hump not good with booths) should I wear my race gear or am I going to get the "who the hell is this guy with his pro racing look-alike leathers" stare from everyone:lol:. *I know this sound petty but for all my pro racing experience I still feel like the noob/squid when it comes to normal street riding.*

Don't hold back I don't offend easily *

DennyV
August 13th, 2012, 09:08 AM
I do kevlar jeans, boots, helmet, leather jacket with hump and aluminum sliders, with full gauntlet gloves. I carry a backpack with me that I keep my tennis shoes in, when I get to my destination I just put the gloves and boots into my backpack and put on my tennis shoes. I hang my jacket on the back of a chair and put my helmet on the table.

csmith12
August 13th, 2012, 09:21 AM
Simple, wear what you want and don't mind what others think.

Of course I would advocate ATGATT but that don't mean a full race suit on the street. But if your planning on getting pretty aggressive then..... you know what you need to wear.

While a non-riding jacket and jeans are not the best option, some good under armor will aid where it lacks, should be easier to store and be more "fitting" or :cool: depending on the group your riding with. But again... refer to the first sentence of this post. Maybe start a good trend, if the majority of the group is not sufficiently geared up

I bounce back and forth between gear on the street and it can change with the weather or my mood. And I am a gear whore too, so.....
1 or 2 piece suit (no speed hump) for the real aggressive stuff
Jacket from 2 piece suit, jeans with under armor for non aggressive rides (commute, trip to store, joyride, ect...)
I always have lid, full gauntlet gloves, back protector and boots on.

If I am going to a destination where I cannot safely store my gear, I take the cage. :(

Dress for the crash not the ride!

robertkh100
August 13th, 2012, 09:29 AM
Normal shoes, shorts/jeans, riding jacket, gloves, and a helmet. Ordered a pair of riding shoes and looking for some kevlar jeans though

rojoracing53
August 13th, 2012, 10:01 AM
Whats ATGATT?

I don't want to get to aggressive on the street it's just not safe like the track is. For the last ten years I've been against riding in the street because I thought it was to dangerous especially with the invention of the moble phone. But after riding for six months out of necessity the experience has grown on me and I find myself enjoying it. To be honest I don't think I'd enjoy group rides because no matter how fast I go on the street it's never going to come close to what I used to do. So I figure I'd give a group ride a try and see of there's something unexpected I enjoy about it that I didn't know was there like my perseption of street riding. I also have to idea how fast I would be considered in street riding terms, I'd like to think I'm satisfied with an average pace. Every time I watch a race from hot pit and comment to my crew on how insanely fast someone looks they would replay you guys are going way faster. If canyon riding becomes to much of a temptation for me to ride faster the I should for the conditions then I'd rather avoid it altogether, it's just not worth the risk compared to what you get at the track.
Maybe I'll give a couple group rides a chance and if becomes something I enjoy I'll by myself a two piece suit.

Rudiger
August 13th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Whats ATGATT?


All the Gear All the Time.

I am still quite new to riding. That being said, I wear textile over-pants, Joe Rocket jacket, with gloves and lid. I still am looking for a decent pair of riding boots.

Panda
August 13th, 2012, 11:10 AM
Chest and back protection
Textile jacket with shoulders and arm
Knee and shin guards
Gloves
Helmet
Armored shorts
Riding boots

I am getting a pair of kevlar jeans sometime soon.

bdavison
August 13th, 2012, 11:22 AM
Whatever weather, and ride dictate.

csmith12
August 13th, 2012, 12:05 PM
Whats ATGATT?

I don't want to get to aggressive on the street it's just not safe like the track is. For the last ten years I've been against riding in the street because I thought it was to dangerous especially with the invention of the moble phone. But after riding for six months out of necessity the experience has grown on me and I find myself enjoying it. To be honest I don't think I'd enjoy group rides because no matter how fast I go on the street it's never going to come close to what I used to do. So I figure I'd give a group ride a try and see of there's something unexpected I enjoy about it that I didn't know was there like my perseption of street riding. I also have to idea how fast I would be considered in street riding terms, I'd like to think I'm satisfied with an average pace. Every time I watch a race from hot pit and comment to my crew on how insanely fast someone looks they would replay you guys are going way faster. If canyon riding becomes to much of a temptation for me to ride faster the I should for the conditions then I'd rather avoid it altogether, it's just not worth the risk compared to what you get at the track.
Maybe I'll give a couple group rides a chance and if becomes something I enjoy I'll by myself a two piece suit.

Your pace while on a group ride is much like your gear. Go your pace and don't bother worrying about what anyone thinks of it. A good group will ride "the pace" and wait at the stops/turns for the last (sweeper) rider. Like you, I go as fast as I can on the track but on the street, I am just average and at the speed limit most of the time. The group I ride with has no issues with this and a slow pace is encouraged if your not familiar with the route or a new rider. Maybe you can find a group of great riders like that.

Give it a chance, you may make a new friend.

Lychee
August 13th, 2012, 12:21 PM
I'm still pretty new to riding in the street, I still have my permit because I've be to lazy to go back for my M-1 license, that being said I don't lack riding(racing) experience. *

Seriously? Have you any insurance? Don't add to the statistic of unlicensed / uninsured drivers.

csmith12 is right, dress for the crash. The likelihood of being in an accident is higher on the street. There is large market for inexpensive gear online, both used and new. At the minimum wear a jacket. If possible add over the ankle boots, gloves, and either knee and shin guards with jeans or riding pants that have knee and shin guards. The more armor the better, up to your comfort level and the weather, of course.

If you like trail running I suggest that you do bring a jacket and chain it to your bike through the arms while on the trail.

During group rides through the canyons I have seen many riders in full suits. If an abundance of protection is questioned, perhaps you should ride with a different group.

After canyon riding I've been to many restaurants in my 2 piece and I have not noticed anyone staring so much as to make me feel uncomfortable. If I do notice someone my plan is to wink and give them a suggestive grin.

psych0hans
August 13th, 2012, 12:22 PM
So.... I'm a semi squid... I generally ride with jacket, lid and gloves with shorts/jeans and sneakers depending on where I'm going... Shorts to the gym, 2 miles from my house, jeans most other places.

pomartin
August 13th, 2012, 12:50 PM
if i know that i will be on bike longer than 5 minutes, i wear leather jacket+pants+gloves, riding boots and helmet fcourse... that way i feel much more comfortable in the twists

Stingray1000
August 13th, 2012, 12:59 PM
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Lychee
August 13th, 2012, 01:14 PM
:happy60:

rojoracing53
August 13th, 2012, 01:33 PM
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I figured it was only a matter time. :)

adouglas
August 13th, 2012, 01:46 PM
- Helmet
- Leather jacket with CE armor including back protector (in the jacket, not "strap-on" (hehe) )
- Textile pants with armor
- Gauntlets
- Motorcycle boots

The only time I ever compromise on this -- ever -- is if I'm heading out for lunch. Then I might ditch the pants, but I try to avoid that.

Gearing up for perceived level of threat is fallacious thinking IMHO. Gear up for the most likely crash, which on the street is probably a lowside at about 35 mph.

Envision this: Run as fast as you possibly can across a parking lot. Now slide on your butt like you were stealing second base. Now think about it again, but this time sliding on your belly. That scenario is about half the speed you'll be traveling on an average street if you go down.

Would you want to do that in jeans or without proper gloves/jacket, on asphalt?

I thought not. You need both pads AND abrasion-resistant material.

Years ago one of the magazines did a simple abrasion test, comparing leather to heavy ballistic nylon to denim. They covered big bags of flour with the material and attached them to a rig on a pickup truck so they could be dragged. The rig was set up to allow the bags to drop to the pavement and slide, just like you would during a lowside. They measured the distance between the drop and failure of the material at IIRC 30 mph.

The denim failed within about five feet of hitting the pavement. The leather got scuffed and that's it.

How much do you enjoy your skin? Scars may be sexy (not) but I can tell you for sure... road rash really, really sucks.

strytnyne
August 13th, 2012, 01:51 PM
Helmet, riding jacket, full gauntlet gloves , dickies with knee and shingaurds underneath , riding boots.

Stingray1000
August 13th, 2012, 02:02 PM
I figured it was only a matter time. :)

Just Sayin'......

rojoracing53
August 13th, 2012, 02:20 PM
- Helmet
- Leather jacket with CE armor including back protector (in the jacket, not "strap-on" (hehe) )
- Textile pants with armor
- Gauntlets
- Motorcycle boots

The only time I ever compromise on this -- ever -- is if I'm heading out for lunch. Then I might ditch the pants, but I try to avoid that.

Gearing up for perceived level of threat is fallacious thinking IMHO. Gear up for the most likely crash, which on the street is probably a lowside at about 35 mph.

Envision this: Run as fast as you possibly can across a parking lot. Now slide on your butt like you were stealing second base. Now think about it again, but this time sliding on your belly. That scenario is about half the speed you'll be traveling on an average street if you go down.

Would you want to do that in jeans or without proper gloves/jacket, on asphalt?

I thought not. You need both pads AND abrasion-resistant material.

Years ago one of the magazines did a simple abrasion test, comparing leather to heavy ballistic nylon to denim. They covered big bags of flour with the material and attached them to a rig on a pickup truck so they could be dragged. The rig was set up to allow the bags to drop to the pavement and slide, just like you would during a lowside. They measured the distance between the drop and failure of the material at IIRC 30 mph.

The denim failed within about five feet of hitting the pavement. The leather got scuffed and that's it.

How much do you enjoy your skin? Scars may be sexy (not) but I can tell you for sure... road rash really, really sucks.

People asking my buddy if it hurt when he crashes his road bicycle(he tend to from time to time) he responds with get in your car naked then bring it up to 45 mph then jump out, yeah it's kinda like that. We hit 50+ mph all the time on our bicycles wear nothing but Lycra and what's funny is in that sport it's the norm and any extra gear is laughed at. Go figure.

RyderRider15
August 13th, 2012, 08:18 PM
What I normally wear to work is..

Icon Variant (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/38/44921/ITEM/Icon-Variant-Construct-Helmet.aspx)
Alpinestars T-GP-R Air Jacket (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/39/44990/ITEM/Alpinestars-T-GP-R-Air-Jacket.aspx)
Alpinestars SP-S Gloves (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/37/28790/ITEM/Alpinestars-SP-S-Gloves.aspx)
Alpinestars Street Cargo Pants (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/40/17111/ITEM/Alpinestars-Street-Cargo-Pants.aspx)
Alpinestars S-MX 5 Boots (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/36/17129/ITEM/Alpinestars-S-MX-5-Boots.aspx)

I've also upgraded the armor in my jacket to these
Alpinestars Bionic Air Back Protector Insert (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/350/35791/ITEM/Alpinestars-Bionic-Air-Back-Protector-Insert.aspx)
Alpinestars Bionic Chest Pad (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/350/10612/ITEM/Alpinestars-Bionic-Chest-Pad.aspx)

The boots are basically the only footwear I use anymore. They're very comfortable to walk in, and I've used them so much that between walking like a lazy bastard and putting my foot out before I'm stopped its time for a new pair I think
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s159/JDRyder/08131223003022.jpgI've only had these for like a few months lol

The pants I switch around between the pair linked and normal black cargo pants. However I do try to use these (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/350/491/ITEM/Alpinestars-Reflex-Knee-Guards.aspx) whenever I'm not wearing the protective pants. The street cargo pants have armor inside the pant, but its not a hard armor (link to the armor it has (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/350/45484/ITEM/Alpinestars-Smart-Guard-Protection-Kit.aspx)) You don't even notice the armor while walking about, and it does serve me a 2nd function at work whenever I have to get on my knees (after saying that I realize how much the internet has ruined me)


If I'm just going down the street for something I'll be lazy and use everyday jeans along with the knee armor linked above and this elbow armor (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/350/488/ITEM/Alpinestars-Reflex-Elbow-Guards.aspx).

If I'm out riding just to ride I just wear my work setup basically.

Zola
August 13th, 2012, 09:59 PM
Trojans... When you want to be safe, not sorry.

Anyone one under 85 on this thread?

Jiggles
August 13th, 2012, 11:29 PM
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No asian girls for you!!! :eek: :D

Miles_Prower
August 14th, 2012, 06:23 AM
in the words of the juggernaut dub..

"AWHHHH IMA BREAK YA IN HALFF!!"

anyways, to the store and what not, i wear Tim's, gloves jacket helmet.
commuting to work, add sport boots.
weekend riding/highway riding replace jacket with full 1 piece suit.

ai4px
August 14th, 2012, 08:26 AM
Normal shoes, shorts/jeans, riding jacket, gloves, and a helmet. Ordered a pair of riding shoes and looking for some kevlar jeans though

I've got a bitchin' pair of kevlar shorts. They'll protect my thighs but not my knees or ankles. :rolleyes: WTF????

ai4px
August 14th, 2012, 08:30 AM
- Textile pants with armor
- Motorcycle boots


A question about pants... when I ride to work, I'd love to have CE padded pants, textile would be fine. But I wear steel toed boots to work, and its a PITA to take them off. I'd love to find a pair of padded pants that zipped down the leg. I have a pair of leather overpants that zip down the leg, but for summer wear, I'd rather have mesh or textile pants.

Any ideas?

csmith12
August 14th, 2012, 08:56 AM
I've got a bitchin' pair of kevlar shorts. They'll protect my thighs but not my knees or ankles. :rolleyes: WTF????

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/14/42/43/3287269/3/628x471.jpg

Lychee
August 14th, 2012, 11:02 AM
A question about pants... when I ride to work, I'd love to have CE padded pants, textile would be fine. But I wear steel toed boots to work, and its a PITA to take them off. I'd love to find a pair of padded pants that zipped down the leg. I have a pair of leather overpants that zip down the leg, but for summer wear, I'd rather have mesh or textile pants.

Any ideas?

According to azimmer11, in this (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=109911) post the Alpinestars Oxygen Air Overpants are pretty breezy and should kick ass for summer riding. They have CE armor in the knees and a long zipper from knee to hem.

RyderRider15, I have heard through local motorcycle forums that you can have the soles replaced on an Alpinestars boot fairly cheaply by sending them to the manufacturer.

RyderRider15
August 14th, 2012, 12:04 PM
According to azimmer11, in this (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=109911) post the Alpinestars Oxygen Air Overpants are pretty breezy and should kick ass for summer riding. They have CE armor in the knees and a long zipper from knee to hem.

RyderRider15, I have heard through local motorcycle forums that you can have the soles replaced on an Alpinestars boot fairly cheaply by sending them to the manufacturer.

Cool I might try that. Any idea where I would go on their site for that?

Lychee
August 14th, 2012, 12:15 PM
Cool I might try that. Any idea where I would go on their site for that?

http://www.alpinestars.com/forms/contact/
Under Product Support their phone number is
PRODUCT SUPPORT / WARRANTY
USA
800: +1 (800) 438-2577
Phn: +1 (310) 891-0222
Fax: +1 (310) 891-029

Call and ask for boot repair. According to the other forum (http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321723), the cost was $80 including return shipping.

fleemos
August 14th, 2012, 06:42 PM
I normally wear a textile jacket, gloves, jeans with knee/shin armor and race boots for commuting. For mountain rides I toss the jeans and strap on armor for textile pants that zip into the jacket.

Jacket/Pants: Sedici Milano
Boots: Sidi Fusion
Gloves: A* SMS-2(hot), A* GPX(moderate), Revit Summit H20(rain)
Armor: Dainese Knee V Guard

I am looking to get that new jeans with CE knee armor by Speed and Strength will be releasing end of year. The Cortech DSX was similar but discontinued right when I tried to order it.

azimmer11
August 15th, 2012, 05:27 AM
According to azimmer11, in this (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=109911) post the Alpinestars Oxygen Air Overpants are pretty breezy and should kick ass for summer riding. They have CE armor in the knees and a long zipper from knee to hem.

RyderRider15, I have heard through local motorcycle forums that you can have the soles replaced on an Alpinestars boot fairly cheaply by sending them to the manufacturer.

I think that post isn't from me, my alpinestars textile pants zip from the hem all the way to the ankle. You can even unzip both sides and seperate the pants into two halves if you want. Cake to get off.

Here is a link to mine:

http://www.motorcyclegear.com/street/pants/mesh_pants/alpinestars/air_flo_mesh_motorcycle_pants.html