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g21-30
December 27th, 2008, 06:37 PM
Never mind. Found the info I needed. Placed my order last night H7s (2) and 4300K. $58 shipped

M-Oorb
December 28th, 2008, 08:39 AM
$58...I thought they were more money...whered you pick them up from?!

noche_caliente
December 28th, 2008, 09:17 AM
$58...I thought they were more money...whered you pick them up from?!

:eek: Do share!

g21-30
December 28th, 2008, 10:33 AM
Here you go:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250336425186

With S&H $58.98

Thanks to kkim (love that BLACK highlighting) for mentioning the AUTO Kits!

You must specify H7 bulbs and 4300K for color/temp, along with daytime phone. :thumbup:

M-Oorb
December 28th, 2008, 11:06 AM
Thanks for the tip...I'll def. look into that once I finish shimming haha

noche_caliente
December 28th, 2008, 11:08 AM
Thanks! Post pics when you get them installed!

kkim
December 28th, 2008, 11:08 AM
Good find.:thumbup: That's why I was reluctant to recommend a source. The HID business is growing so fast, the price is dropping very quickly. Your price is about 1/2 of what I paid about 9 months ago.

I figure for that price, if they fail, I could throw them away and just go back to the stock bulb.

Have fun. :)

Couple items... be sure to aim your headlight after you're done installing, you'll need to come up with some sort of spacer for the H7 setup Kawasaki uses :rolleyes: and you can zip tie the ballasts to the framework inside the nose area to avoid having to drill holes into the black console plastic like your linked installation instructions showed.

Take pics when you install... I failed to do that and am constantly getting asked questions about this mod. This is one of the very first mods I made to my bike and was not into doing DIYs at the time.

noche_caliente
December 28th, 2008, 11:15 AM
Couple items... be sure to aim your headlight after you're done installing, you'll need to come up with some sort of spacer for the H7 setup Kawasaki uses :rolleyes: and you can zip tie the ballasts to the framework inside the nose area to avoid having to drill holes into the black console plastic like your linked installation instructions showed.

Take pics when you install... I failed to do that and am constantly getting asked questions about this mod. This is one of the very first mods I made to my bike and was not into doing DIYs at the time.

*nudge nudge* The Master is suggesting that you do a DIY for it ;)

kkim
December 28th, 2008, 11:19 AM
lol... sorry, I'm not about to disassemble the works to do a DIY. :) You have it quite backwards.. I do the DIYs as I install the mod. :lol:

Figured someone else could do a DIY now that they know they are going to do this mod. :)

g21-30
December 28th, 2008, 12:00 PM
kkim,

I did see your pics on the KF and noticed how you tie wrapped the ballasts.

The "search" function is your friend!

Let's see, so far this week on ebay...jet kit ($42), HID ($59), and exhaust ($58). To be fair, I found the exhaust weeks ago, just was trying to decide on a jet kit.

http://www.cyclewareables.com/pages/exhausts_mufflers_oem_type/replac3.gif

Model CWM84030MD - middle of this page (under DUNSTALL):

http://www.cyclewareables.com/pages/exhausts_mufflers_oem_type/replacement_mufflers.htm

kkim
December 28th, 2008, 12:03 PM
Take a lot of pictures when you install them. :)

M-Oorb
December 28th, 2008, 01:48 PM
Yes def do I DIY on the HIDs. Also if you could..the night before you do the install take a picture of the stock headlight light and then do it after so we can all see the wonderful difference!:thumbup:

Sailariel
December 28th, 2008, 02:08 PM
g21-30, Had a set of those Dunstall reverse cone megaphones on my 750 Dunstall Norton back in 1975. The make a memorable sound.

g21-30
December 28th, 2008, 02:19 PM
Partial HID DIY by kkim:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/kkim993/SLkTEReFisI/AAAAAAAAA2w/IXGxX3hTjj4/s640/DSC04563-1.JPG

grandmaster
December 30th, 2008, 12:00 AM
I guess I don't understand the Difference between the HID kit and a xenon bulb??? Probably a dumb question ha ha but I would like to understand it.

kkim
December 30th, 2008, 12:24 AM
HID kits use Xenon bulbs. The bulbs you linked in your thread were not true Xenon bulbs... more likely bulbs that replicated the color of Xenon bulbs and were nothing more than a Halogen type bulb with special filters and gases inside the bulb.

A true HID kit will use a very high voltage (a ballast, as pictured above) to make the gas in the Xenon bulb glow/arc which gives off the light. The emitted light is much brighter and whiter than halogen bulbs can emit.

Google HID to get a better understanding on how they work.

Cochese
December 30th, 2008, 05:21 PM
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g21-30
December 30th, 2008, 06:05 PM
Cochese, You da man!

Do you want one of these?:

http://www.denniskirk.com/denniskirk/b2c/product_images/e/1/8/600pix/e18111046.jpg

Cochese
December 30th, 2008, 06:13 PM
Cochese, You da man!

Do you want one of these?:

http://www.denniskirk.com/denniskirk/b2c/product_images/e/1/8/600pix/e18111046.jpg


Got one of these sitting in the garage. Waiting on an Area P full header to fab up...

:cheers:

http://www.2fiddy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hr1-ninja-250r.jpg

Azhyen
June 22nd, 2011, 01:46 PM
Instead of making a new thread, thought I'd revive this one.

So my low beam OEM bulb burnt out and now I'm contemplating HIDs. Since it's been at least a year for some of you who've installed HIDs, are you satisfied with them? Considering the low price point of HIDs I'd like to buy a set as well instead of buying replacement bulbs.

What pros and cons have you all run into? Thanks for your time!

kkim
June 22nd, 2011, 01:50 PM
Mine has held up well... both high and low beam HIDs installed.

If you don't like riding around with HIDs all the time, you can move your stock highbeam bulb over to your lowbeam position (they are the same type H7 bulb) and install only a HID kit in the highbeam. :)

Azhyen
June 22nd, 2011, 02:18 PM
Mine has held up well... both high and low beam HIDs installed.

If you don't like riding around with HIDs all the time, you can move your stock highbeam bulb over to your lowbeam position (they are the same type H7 bulb) and install only a HID kit in the highbeam. :)

I was thinking about doing that actually, I'm more sold on that kind of setup. I assume I can just follow the DIY threads and just stop with one with no extra modding?

kkim
June 22nd, 2011, 03:03 PM
yes. the high and low light are two completely separate circuits. just install the HID bulb and ballast into the high light and stop there.

I suggest you purchase a HID kit for a car that has 2 complete lights. That way, you'll have a spare in case the high light ever goes out or you can install the second into the low light position if you find you really like the way the HIDs perform. I recommend a 4300K bulb temp.

remember to properly aim your headlights after you do the install. :)

Azhyen
June 22nd, 2011, 05:43 PM
What's the difference between a car and a bike "slim" HID kit? Also, where did you get yours from?

kkim
June 22nd, 2011, 05:53 PM
as far as I know, with a bike kit you only get 1/2 the amount of parts as a car kit. I've had both the slim ballast kits and the "regular" sized ballast kits and they both do the job the same, only the slim kits a are a bit easier to conceal in the limited space in the front cowl area. BTW, you don't need the 55w kits... the 35W kits put out way more light than you'll need. There have been problems with people popping fuses w/ the 55w kits.

I got a car kit off ebay, for $100 or so, back in 08. today I'd suspect you can pick up the same kit for $50. as with anything on ebay, be very careful and shoot questions out to the seller before you order so you can at least get some feel for their customer service. I figured if the HIDs didn't work, I'd be out about the price of a good set of replacement bulbs, but to date, the HIDs have been working fine.

Cuongism
June 22nd, 2011, 06:18 PM
Seph, DDMtuning is local to us in San Diego (near Walmart/99 Ranch). They sell the H7 kits for $20-25 each and have lifetime warranties as long as you keep your receipt. This means you never have to buy another bulb :thumbup:

Azhyen
June 22nd, 2011, 06:24 PM
Thanks kkim on the 35w tip!

Cuong, cool, I'll check them out later when I get home. I doubt they're still open for a drop-in.

greatwhiteninja
June 23rd, 2011, 08:21 PM
yeah i got mine off ebay for $50 shipped and they were the digital slim ballast which makes the job easier mounting them.. i went with 8k cause i run that in my car and am happy with them. i have a video showing them here http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76786

wtfh4xx
June 23rd, 2011, 08:46 PM
Ive been eyeing the DDM kits in 6k color.
Please do post pics of the 4300k color, I was wanting a bit of blue in mine and know those 4300 should be plain bright white.

kkim
June 23rd, 2011, 09:17 PM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G5wB1Y6HbhU/SOQvbxfKsrI/AAAAAAAABD4/ocapokUEems/s800/bike%252520035.jpg

Azhyen
June 24th, 2011, 11:15 AM
yeah i got mine off ebay for $50 shipped and they were the digital slim ballast which makes the job easier mounting them.. i went with 8k cause i run that in my car and am happy with them. i have a video showing them here http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76786

I check youtube about once every two weeks for any new 250r videos and ran into yours awhile ago, haha! I dig man! I think I'm going with this setup:

DDM Tuning (http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-35W-55W-Dual-Motorcycle-HID-Kit)

-35w
-@ 4500k

Should look similar to KKim's minus one HID, haha.

wtfh4xx
June 24th, 2011, 12:41 PM
I cant decide if I want 5k or 6K 35w in my ninja

Hmmmmmm

kamikaze
June 24th, 2011, 01:14 PM
I"ve got 5k with a 55w kit, the light is bright white, with no blue. on a 55w kit, the colour gets washed out a bit, so if you want a little blue I'd go 5k on a 35w kit and 6k on a 55w. if you want a lot of blue (and still lots of usable light) go 6k and 8k respectively.

For the 55w kits, I highly recommend getting or making a relay harness. just a word of warning, if you buy the DDM relay harness you'll want to replace the fuse holder and the relay socket and relay since they are crap. You'll need to add a second relay anyway so that you have seperate hi/lo beams.

warlord
June 24th, 2011, 01:25 PM
I've used 3000k (yellow)-6000K (slight blue). The 6000K looks hyperwhite most of the time but in the rain or on wet roads you'll be able to tell a difference in light output. Blue doesn't work that well in the wet, scattering light quite a bit. 5000k, doesn't look blue at all except for when you compare it directly to a 4,300k lamp. I didn't notice any scattering from the 5000k lamps.

I would always recommend 4,300-4,500K if you're looking for the brightest, whitest beam and the most output. I've got the 4,500K from DDM on my car with projectors now and the color is nice and white. The further away from that color temp you go, the less usable light you're going to have.

kkim, what wattage are you using? Those things look bright!

Momaru
June 24th, 2011, 02:17 PM
I'm using Morimoto 5000k 35W's that are very white with just a tiny hint o' blue. But I'm also using a full projector retrofit so no issues with hotspots or scatter. Link to CThunder-blue's DIY thread (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64230) and some pics of our setup. My photo of the bulb output at the bottom looks kinda blue, but that's mostly the color bias of my camera's night-time shots (I'm a bit of a photo-newb).

MattRichling
June 24th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Dealer is trying to sell me one bulb (kit) for $100... eshhh

greatwhiteninja
June 24th, 2011, 08:24 PM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G5wB1Y6HbhU/SOQvbxfKsrI/AAAAAAAABD4/ocapokUEems/s800/bike%252520035.jpg

do you have your lamps aiming down alot? they are a pain to adjust that top knob for the up and down of the lamps.

kkim
June 24th, 2011, 08:28 PM
take you fairings off and they are easy to adjust. :D I adjusted mine to the same cutoff height as my cars.

greatwhiteninja
June 24th, 2011, 08:33 PM
yeah figured that was prolly the easiest way.. mine stock are aimed pretty high, need to bring them down a bit..loL!

Azhyen
June 24th, 2011, 11:12 PM
Dealer is trying to sell me one bulb (kit) for $100... eshhh

Or you could go with this...

DDM (http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-35W-55W-Single-Motorcycle-HID-Kit)

It's a single bulb kit for just a little more than 1/4 of what the dealer's asking for.

kkim
June 25th, 2011, 01:00 AM
kkim, what wattage are you using? Those things look bright!

35W kit.

warlord
June 25th, 2011, 09:40 AM
35W kit.

Thanks. I just saw the answer posted above while I was scrolling through the thread again...Doh!

greatwhiteninja
June 26th, 2011, 04:52 PM
i adjusted the beam on mine today to what seemed to be the max it would go for aiming them down, it seems to adjust the low beam mainly, high beam still stays pointed up a lil higher.. which makes sense i guess but i was hoping to get them both even cause i usually ride around night/day with both lights on.

kkim
June 26th, 2011, 04:55 PM
the adjusters will adjust both the high and low beams together as a unit. you want the high beam to be aimed higher than the low beam... that's what makes it the high beam. :)

greatwhiteninja
June 26th, 2011, 04:59 PM
i didnt see much movement at all on the bottom adjusters for horizontal.. i mean i did see that my lamp was tilted really far one way when done..loL! but the light output on the wall didnt really change much .

kkim
June 26th, 2011, 05:11 PM
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11413

greatwhiteninja
June 26th, 2011, 05:20 PM
i didnt have much issue installing the HID's themselves.. actually did it all with the fairings on. just the beam pattern will need to be played with a bit to get perfect.. dont get me wrong, just dropping them in was a huge improvement over stock and honestly could of been left alone but im pretty picky about things so i want the beam just right.

kkim
June 26th, 2011, 05:23 PM
the diy shows you the horizontal and vertical adjusters.

greatwhiteninja
June 26th, 2011, 05:56 PM
ok, thanks.. ill play around with them and try and find the best spot.

kkim
June 26th, 2011, 07:41 PM
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55341&