ryan.chin
September 20th, 2012, 03:32 PM
FIRST...
Had to get it before Jiggles.
UH yeah.
Had to get it before Jiggles.
UH yeah.
View Full Version : 2013 Exhaust ryan.chin September 20th, 2012, 03:32 PM FIRST... Had to get it before Jiggles. UH yeah. Old Lemon September 20th, 2012, 05:43 PM yoshi menikmati September 20th, 2012, 06:58 PM MGP Growler fo' life. BRAP BRAP. ryan.chin September 22nd, 2012, 05:41 AM BRAAAAAAAP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA P BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA..... ^ The exact sound of a MPG Growler - through all 6 gears. JBinSD October 1st, 2012, 03:17 PM I asked the dealer today when he expected any aftermarket stuff for the 300, he said he thought it'd be months. I'd like to be able to have mine race-ready by Nov, but think I'll need: stainless brake line up front; Frame sliders and spools; rearsets; full exhaust or slip-on; bazzaz, pc or equivalent; and track plastics a la sharkskinz or hotbodies. If anyone has a source for these items, lemme know pls. Thanx, Joel Alex October 1st, 2012, 03:29 PM Stainless lines are pretty generic, and could probably be ordered now if you gave them the required length. My hunch is that any lines for the 08-12 would be identical, but no guarantees. Rear spools are standard M10 size, so anything for the new-gens will work there as well. No info yet on framesliders, but it looks like there will at least be an official kawi accessory for them, so that means aftermarket support as well at some point. Same with exhaust and PC; clearly they will be ready at some point, hopefully soon. vanman69 October 1st, 2012, 03:38 PM M4 has slipons for the 300 on ebay at the moment ricochet08 October 1st, 2012, 03:59 PM link? i can't find em :( JBinSD October 1st, 2012, 04:41 PM Yeah, I'm not seeing much of anything even on Fleabay for the 300 yet, I'm sure it'll eventually gain support, but pretty empty atm.:rolleyes: vanman69 October 1st, 2012, 05:00 PM ere ya go bud Carbon Fibre http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M4-Exhaust-Kawasaki-2013-Ninja-300-Slip-On-Exhaust-Muffler-Carbon-/110958895639?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d5aa6217 Titanium http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M4-Exhaust-Kawasaki-2013-Ninja-300-Slip-On-Exhaust-Muffler-Titanium-/110954302899?pt=AU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19d5644db3 JBinSD October 2nd, 2012, 11:20 AM Ah, Van's downundah, us yank's haven't evolved on ebay yet. . . . choneofakind October 2nd, 2012, 11:22 AM plus, $500 for a can?? bleah. Just wait for a full system for that price. vanman69 October 2nd, 2012, 01:05 PM yeah, ive got to agree, i dont think id buy a slip on if there was a full system available. im sure it wont be long till one comes out in the land of the rising sun. Rekognize October 3rd, 2012, 07:05 AM Rear spools are standard M10 size, so anything for the new-gens will work there as well. Hi Alex, would this work? http://i.imgur.com/zd0Ue.jpg http://www.ebay.com/itm/10mm-Swingarm-Spools-Silver-Fit-05-06-07-08-09-2010-KAWASAKI-Z750-Z750S-ER-6N-6F-/280979242980 Alex October 3rd, 2012, 09:06 AM The bolt would fit in the hole on the bike, it is the correct size. But, I'm not sure if the diameter of the spool is small enough to fit under the swingarm. It also looks like the place where the stand would sit on that spool would be very close to the outside surface of the swingarm, and I wonder if it would be too close, and perhaps scrape it. The ones I got (just picked them up from the parts dept at the shop), have more of a spacer to put where the stand arms sit perhaps 1/3 to 1/2 inch further out. You could likely do the same thing with the spools you linked by adding a spacer. I wish I had the manufacturer of the ones I bought, it was some no-name accessory brand; it wasn't any factory kawasaki part. I can look when I get back to the shop for the first service. alex.s October 3rd, 2012, 10:50 AM i like the look of the '13 stock exhaust. i wonder if the midpipe is the same size as the 250? Rekognize October 3rd, 2012, 12:02 PM I wish I had the manufacturer of the ones I bought, it was some no-name accessory brand; it wasn't any factory kawasaki part. I can look when I get back to the shop for the first service. Keep us posted :) Alex October 3rd, 2012, 01:25 PM OK, I just called to confirm the model. The spools I am using on the 2013 Ninja 300 are the Keiti Mini Swingarm Spools. Here is a link (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/5/89/28034/DPITEM/Street-Bike-Swingarm-Spools-Keiti-Mini-Swingarm-Spools.aspx) on motorcycle superstore, but I'm sure they are sold elsewhere as well. 21164 While it's not clear from the picture, the way the bolt goes in is with the head of the bolt on the thin part of the spool, so that thick part of the metal is what is closest to the spool boss on the swingarm. Then the part where the stand fits is further outboard, enough so that there is clearance for the stand to not interfere with the swingarm. The only downside to these spools is that the space to hold the stand is quite narrow, so the stand has to have its arms exactly the right distance apart; there is almost no fudge factor allowed, like there is for spools that have wider mount areas. I was thinking of replacing them with ones from PitBull directly, but I'm starting to appreciate that these look quite clean and small, and work perfectly fine as long as the stand is configured correctly. Surferboy120 October 3rd, 2012, 07:55 PM I bought the Pit Bull 10mm Spools part # F0023-000 in Black. They fit perfectly. They come with a spacer just in case but I did not need to use it. Link to Pit Bull product http://www.pit-bull.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PBMSA&Product_Code=F0023-000&Category_Code=spool_kits http://www.pit-bull.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/F0023-000_big.jpg Rekognize October 3rd, 2012, 10:51 PM Awesome, thanks guys :thumbup: JBinSD October 4th, 2012, 11:13 AM yeah surfer, I actually followed your link for the Pitbull spools, I like the idea of having sliders back there too, has anyone tried the Delcron sliders on the spool? I guess equally tight margin of error for the stands, but good to have extra protection back there too. Kawz October 11th, 2012, 06:29 AM I have an akrapovic slip on exhaust for my 250r. Will i be able to fit it to the 300? Sapper October 12th, 2012, 10:10 AM I have an akrapovic slip on exhaust for my 250r. Will i be able to fit it to the 300? The pipe will fit into your stock header but the bracket to hold it on may not reach. If it is not adjustable you will need to get a little piece of metal to adapt to it Hellmutt October 15th, 2012, 10:16 AM I'm chatting with Brock Davidson to see if/when he plans to get a specimen to design a system. I'll post up my findings after he replies, but beware.....if it's anything close to the 250R system they offer, it will be one pricey setup! Here's a link to the 250R system http://www.brocksperformance.com/Ninja-250R+C271.aspx Jiggles October 18th, 2012, 10:45 PM I'm chatting with Brock Davidson to see if/when he plans to get a specimen to design a system. I'll post up my findings after he replies, but beware.....if it's anything close to the 250R system they offer, it will be one pricey setup! Here's a link to the 250R system http://www.brocksperformance.com/Ninja-250R+C271.aspx Where da dynos at!? Somchai October 18th, 2012, 11:10 PM Here you can see the first dynos from LeoVince for the Ninja 300 (the Corsa is the race exhaust). Jiggles October 18th, 2012, 11:57 PM Wow 39 Potenzas??? Surferboy120 October 19th, 2012, 05:37 PM I'm excited to see what AP can come up with. The dyno for the Leo Vince is a little disappointing; not only is the bump less appreciable than I expected with a full system, but I'm totally not willing to DROP the torque curve below 5krpm. It's already a bit anemic down there, so intentionally losing power at a weak point seems bad; definitely not something I'll pay a lot for. Not much info except a dyno. Who knows what kind of tuning was done with the exhaust. I agree though I am waiting for AP. Alex October 21st, 2012, 01:10 PM All Area P-specific discussion moved to its own thread right here (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=117455). choneofakind October 21st, 2012, 01:59 PM Here you can see the first dynos from LeoVince for the Ninja 300 (the Corsa is the race exhaust). That's it? Did they forget to change the fuel map or something? diwhiteii October 22nd, 2012, 11:54 PM I took this off my 09 Ninja 250R and put on my 2013 300. It sounds soooo good on the 300 even better than the 250. I also have the jardine GP1so I put it on my 250R. Enjoy! ninja250r81 November 8th, 2012, 01:04 PM TBR Slip-on available in Aussie http://www.bikebiz.com.au/products/TBR-Kawasaki-Ninja-300-Slip-on.html choneofakind November 8th, 2012, 01:22 PM USA as well: http://www.twobros.com/cgi-bin/shopper?search=action&sku=005-32704&searchstart=0&template=Templates/TBRSearchResult-Simple-Kaw-Ninja300-SO-13.html Notice on their listing, they only have a slip-on, but in their picture on the main page, they have what appears to be a full system on the bike. :) This guy: http://www.twobros.com/Exhaust/Kawasaki/2013-kaw-ninja300-so-side.jpg VS. this guy: http://www.twobros.com/images/slides/2013_Ninja300_slider.jpg and here's the youtube video that Two Brothers made. Look at the power gains. If that's what can be done with a slip-on, I can't wait to see what can be done with a full system. They got 38.26 HP out of the slip-on vs 35.53 with the stock system, and the peak carries further without dropping off. Surprisingly, the Two Brothers can doesn't seem loud. It looks to be a longer can than those for other bikes. Finally, Two Brothers makes a can that's not redonculously loud. They look sick. My complaint is the dB level. Va3CKcFPcYg#! adouglas November 8th, 2012, 01:55 PM Okay, call me ignorant but I do not understand the purpose of slip-ons. The limiting factor is the pipe and fueling, right? Therefore all a slip-on does is make the bike louder... not more powerful. choneofakind November 8th, 2012, 02:04 PM Depends on the bike. Some bikes respond really well to just a can. Some need a full system to really open up. Looks like the 300 gets 2.73 horse from a slip-on. I bet more from a full system with larger diameter pipes and whatnot. EDIT for example: This is the dyno chart from Area P for the Slip-on that fits the 01-05 GSXR600-750. You can see a 7 hp improvement, and a bike that pulls all the way to the redline instead of dying off. That would be very useful for the track, even if they improvement isn't huge. http://areapnolimits.com/images/product/gsxr750_dyno_big.gif lgk November 8th, 2012, 02:11 PM depends on what ends up being the bottleneck in the system. could be any part along the exhaust. the good thing about full exhausts, is that everything is engineered to work together. Jiggles November 8th, 2012, 03:57 PM Depends on the bike. Some bikes respond really well to just a can. Some need a full system to really open up. Looks like the 300 gets 2.73 horse from a slip-on. I bet more from a full system with larger diameter pipes and whatnot. EDIT for example: This is the dyno chart from Area P for the Slip-on that fits the 01-05 GSXR600-750. You can see a 7 hp improvement, and a bike that pulls all the way to the redline instead of dying off. That would be very useful for the track, even if they improvement isn't huge. http://areapnolimits.com/images/product/gsxr750_dyno_big.gif I think 90% of that benefit is from retuning not the exhaust choneofakind November 8th, 2012, 04:00 PM Oh contraire my jiggly friend, webpage says no ecu changes were made. Fuel curve/map is within specs and no change is required to the mapping. http://areapnolimits.com/products/Slip-On-Exhaust-Suzuki-GSX-R600-GSX-R750-2001.php Jiggles November 8th, 2012, 04:15 PM Hmm, seems odd that a slip on would have that much of an affect ricochet08 November 8th, 2012, 04:33 PM http://www.hotbodiesracing.com/en/prod_516_mgp_exhausts_kawasaki_2013_ninja_300 http://www.hotbodiesracing.com/images/bikes/516_sub_1-mgp_exhausts-kawasaki-2013-ninja_300.jpg lgk November 8th, 2012, 04:35 PM Brappppppp.... Yuttttt ungghhhhhh.... Brappppppp.... kbryant November 9th, 2012, 07:56 AM depends on what ends up being the bottleneck in the system. could be any part along the exhaust. the good thing about full exhausts, is that everything is engineered to work together. Well put and exactly the way it works. ;) When we tested several different slip-on only designs on the 250r, we simply never got more .3 - .6 (yes, tenths...) of a hp improvement, henceforth, we never offered a slip-on. We actually got better improvement with simply rejetting and keeping the oem muffler. When our FI programmer arrives within the next week or so for the 300, we'll begin our final testing of all the prototypes we've designed.:thumbup: We will also test with some slip-on designs as well. The oem muffler on the 300 actually works very well within the design limitations of the oem headpipe, sound levels and A/F curve. tuan3742 November 9th, 2012, 08:15 AM When i first got the bike, i didn't intend to do anything with it, but after hearing about the progress in the mods for it, i.e., exhausts, i'm tempted to dive in. i've been wanting to do an undertail exhaust and i'd seriously pay top dollar for that kind of mod lgk November 9th, 2012, 09:35 AM When i first got the bike, i didn't intend to do anything with it, but after hearing about the progress in the mods for it, i.e., exhausts, i'm tempted to dive in. i've been wanting to do an undertail exhaust and i'd seriously pay top dollar for that kind of mod i was the same way when i first got my bike, but now i add something everytime i do maintenance on the bike. rusninja November 9th, 2012, 10:17 AM When i first got the bike, i didn't intend to do anything with it, but after hearing about the progress in the mods for it, i.e., exhausts, i'm tempted to dive in. i've been wanting to do an undertail exhaust and i'd seriously pay top dollar for that kind of mod It would be very nice and interesting plus would also make the motorcycle more balanced :S menikmati November 10th, 2012, 12:07 AM It would be very nice and interesting plus would also make the motorcycle more balanced :S Da fuq? You wouldn't be able to notice the weight. But aesthetically, sure...? Byakkotai November 13th, 2012, 09:41 PM Not sure if we have a 2Bros presence but I'll just leave this here jVsm5UmYk60 Surferboy120 November 13th, 2012, 10:14 PM Not sure if we have a 2Bros presence but I'll just leave this here jVsm5UmYk60 Is that tuned with ecu management? Doesn't seem like much to brag about although it does increase across the whole power band. ricochet08 November 14th, 2012, 01:16 PM idk much about tunes and ECU management, but if that's all it's got as far as gains go, i'm stickin with a slip on :-/ rersme January 9th, 2013, 07:17 AM Guys try Totsubo motorsport exhaust if you want a bad ass exhaust. its painfully loud but it has a distinct sound since it has a 2-2 configuration unlike others. Heres the Totsubo... http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=66733 |
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