Could the frequently used nicknames be added to the section names?

Pregen - 88-07
Newgen - 08-12
Supergen??? - 13-present

Or maybe

First / Second Generation, 86 - 07
Third Generation, 08 - 12
Fourth Generation 13 - present

At some point, but we first need to come up with what sub-nickname we want to use for the new 300's. I think it will work itself out on its own over time. pre-gen/new-gen made so much sense in 2008. This one is a little harder, going from new-gen to what next...

At some point, but we first need to come up with what sub-nickname we want to use for the new 300's. I think it will work itself out on its own over time. pre-gen/new-gen made so much sense in 2008. This one is a little harder, going from new-gen to what next...

Just stick to the years and keep it simple :thumbup:

86-07
08-12
13+

My vote is pregen/newgen/supergen or just 300s since it is obvious what bike you have if you say 300 but not obvious what bike you have if you say 250

Just stick to the years and keep it simple :thumbup:

86-07
08-12
13+

Too much pinky stretch

Just stick to the years and keep it simple :thumbup:

86-07
08-12
13+

Yes, that's what it says currently on the main forums page. I think the request was to add the nicknames in addition.

My vote is pregen/newgen/supergen or just 300s since it is obvious what bike you have if you say 300 but not obvious what bike you have if you say 250

I'm fond of "supergen" as well, though I appreciate its corniness. :)

someone better put a cape on their 300, making it a true supergen (at least for the time it took to take a picture) :)

And slap a copyright infringing red & yellow decal showing the letter of the day?

Maybe
pregen
newgen
300

Stop recycling my ideas :)

Like this guy:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111108011426/muppet/images/thumb/0/09/SuperGroverClosedHelmet.png/300px-SuperGroverClosedHelmet.png

definitely my favorite Sesame Street character

Just do it like any other forum would on any other bike.
1st gen, 2nd gen 3rd gen etc. Its alot easier

But the thing is, it's not the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gens. It's going to confuse people that way because there's always gonna be some newb who calls their pregen a 1st gen, and then someone (not naming names here) is going to pop up and say, "WELL TECHNICALLY it's actually a 3rd gen". Or whatever.

Maybe
pregen
newgen
300
Can't because there are 2013+ 250s that are the same "gen" as the 300 and no more different than carb, cali-carb, and FI was in the last gen.

Can't because there are 2013+ 250s that are the same "gen" as the 300 and no more different than carb, cali-carb, and FI was in the last gen.

So then we will have 300s, or supergen 300 if you want to get technical, and supergen 250s

Something to do with it being the newgen's successor. "Sucgen?" ;) Jiggles would like that.

Seriously, though: considering the line's long history, the "newgen" will be comparatively "new" for a long time. We can continue calling it "newgen" if we can find something appropriate for the EX250L and EX300A. I don't like "supergen" because there's nothing "super" about the EX250L vs the EX250K newgen.

Pregen. Newgen. Nexgen.

Of course, that'll put us in a real pickle when the EX250M and EX300C/EX300D hit, so we should make a concerted effort to gravitate to 250 E-series, F-series, H-series, J/K-series, L-series, 300 A-series, etc naming conventions.

Nexgen is not bad but I still like supergen, cuz it looks like a damn supersport

Nexgen is not bad but I still like supergen, cuz it looks like a damn supersport

You say it like its a bad thing...

You say it like its a bad thing...

I don't want my ninjette to look like my 1000. Probably the biggest reason I won't get a 300 is because of the way it looks. I will slap a 300 in my 250 though if I can :D

Forum categories could be:
Classic 250R - The previous generations including 1986-1987 EX250E, 1988-2007 "pregen" EX250F, and Canadian EX250H
Modern 250R - The first of the new generation including 2008-2012 "newgen" EX250J and EX250K
Current 250R and Ninja 300 - The latest, current generation including the 2013+ Ninja 300 and "supergen" EX250L

On your mark, get set, terrible

Jiggles, you've been grasping at straws lately to come up with random reasons to hate on the new bike. Someone's majorly jelly.

Ahem if you will scroll through my post history you will notice that my original distaste in the supergen design goes back to when the 2013 250 was released. I'm simply restating a previous and valid point.

Pregen, postgen, currentgen...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/seanvoight/most%20used%20pics/g_zpsfd7bd705.gif

I like "extragen" myself. Nextgen is Star Trek. Also there was a prepregen sold in the Japanese market.

Ahem if you will scroll through my post history you will notice that my original distaste in the supergen design goes back to when the 2013 250 was released. I'm simply restating a previous and valid point.

Yes I know you have disliked it the whole time. You're the only one (well, not the only one. You're in n4mwd's company on this one) who is still belligerently knocking the new bike without riding it.

I thought he wants one. Anyway, akima sides with me and she is queen so nana na booboo

Could the frequently used nicknames be added to the section names?

Pregen - 88-07
Newgen - 08-12
Supergen??? - 13-present

Or maybe

First / Second Generation, 86 - 07
Third Generation, 08 - 12
Fourth Generation 13 - present

Aren't the years 08-12 now called pre-gen? :p

No

pregen

newgen

(this is) SPARTAgen.

^ and that kids is how you come up with a good idea :)

I like "extragen" myself. Nextgen is Star Trek. Also there was a prepregen sold in the Japanese market.

Uhh, the "E" model was sold here too. Basically, it never had and doesn't need a distinguishing nickname. Any EX250-series bike before E wasn't even a "Ninja."

Also, next-gen was batted around a lot in the '90s when it came to game consoles and computer tech. "Nexgen" wasn't (no T). ;)

Please forgive my ninja250 noobness, but what's wrong with:

Gen 1
Gen 2
Gen 3

?

There is like 5 generations.

Suggest we take a poll


All in favor of spartagen...

Aye!

There is like 5 generations.

Suggest we take a poll


All in favor of spartagen...

When I hear "Sparta Generation," I think "oldest generation predating combustion engines by thousands of years."

When I hear "Sparta Generation," I think "oldest generation predating combustion engines by thousands of years."

http://memedump.com/d/1400-7/ur-doin-it-wrong-10.jpg

The 300 by definition can't be a GEN casue it's NOT a twofiddy...

The 300 by definition can't be a GEN casue it's NOT a twofiddy...

It's not a generation of 250, but it is a generation of Ninjette, which always refers to Kawasaki's smallest available Ninja in a given market. The European fuel-injected 2008 EX250K was the same generation as the US carb'd 2008 EX250J. We called them both "newgen." The 2013 EX300A is easily as much the same as the new-newgen 2013 EX250L. They don't share the same markets, just like before, but the two TOGETHER need a name every bit as much.

I'm starting to like pregen, newgen, and newgen-A/B/L (or newgen'13). They're both "new" compared to the 25-year-old and 20-year-long generation! Granted, "newgen-A" and "newgen-B" will not get used much because there is no confusion when you say "300," but it doesn't need to be until we get to a new generation 300 and we can already use it to distinguish ABS bikes from non-ABS when we need to. It's not like the terms "pregen" and "newgen" ever completely replaced referencing the exact model, year, or generation by year ("'08+"). When needed, we can slowly start calling the 2008-2012 bikes newgen-J or newgen-K as well, but "newgen" without specifying will still refer to anything newer than 2007 with the assumption that it usually refers to J/K. We can even retcon the '86/'87 E-series as "pregen-E" and the Canadian H-series as "pregen-H."

It's not a generation of 250, but it is a generation of Ninjette, which always refers to Kawasaki's smallest available Ninja in a given market. ...

I'll give you that, but if there is a

...2013 EX250L. ...

Then the 300 is not the smallest available, and therefor not a Ninjette (and the Kaw website still shows the NewGen 250 as an available model here in the US - or are they just "leftover" 2012 250's???).

But let's not let ourselves get wrapped around the axle... I'm anxious to get my hands on the 300 (whatever we end up calling it - and my vote goes for calling it a "doublenaught" [use the 3 prefix if you must but not necessary until they make a 200????] because of the FI (and the increased HP) and the ABS.

I'll give you that, but if there is a



Then the 300 is not the smallest available, and therefor not a Ninjette (and the Kaw website still shows the NewGen 250 as an available model here in the US - or are they just "leftover" 2012 250's???).

But let's not let ourselves get wrapped around the axle... I'm anxious to get my hands on the 300 (whatever we end up calling it - and my vote goes for calling it a "doublenaught" [use the 3 prefix if you must but not necessary until they make a 200????] because of the FI (and the increased HP) and the ABS.Yes, the 250R bikes that are still available here are leftover 2012 bikes (says 2012 at the top of the page if you click). The 2013 EX250L looks exactly like an EX300, which is what I meant by them having as much in common with each other as the EX250J and EX250K "newgens" had between themselves.

Yeah, this whole thread is silly, but I'm all in. :)

so can a EX250L (w/FI????) be had in the states???

so can a EX250L (w/FI????) be had in the states???
Nope. Only in markets where they can't sell the 300 to the same buyers (graduated licensing, displacement limits, etc). But we are an international forum so it will be discussed over the years. We discussed it plenty after the Indonesian launch event, before the 300 was announced. :)

yea but now no one gives 2 shits about a 2013 250

'cept the indo guys who are stuck with it due to their laws, after rubbing it in our faces about having it unveiled first :lol:

'cept the indo guys who are stuck with it due to their laws, after rubbing it in our faces about having it unveiled first :lol:

They actually aren't the only ones.

They're first, second and third gen. How can that be so complicated?

They're first, second and third gen. How can that be so complicated?

Because they AREN'T first, second, and third gen. Lots of people on these forums have EX250E, which is before what you are calling "first gen" and even more have EX250H, which is between what you call "first" and "second gen." Also, the 2013 EX300A/B is the *first* gen Ninja 300, though the related 2013 EX250L is at least the fifth gen EX250. A name for the FI 2013 Ninjette, be it EX250 or EX300, must apply to either and it can't do that with a numeric generational designation.

If there was anything in the EX250 series before the EX250E then it was before the "Ninja" line officially existed, so it doesn't need a name because it's not a Ninjette.

Define "lots"

The Internet has-many-ways to say "a lot."

Over 9,000.
Many.
A few.
Several.
One Metric Asston.

Anyway, no matter how similar, a first gen 300 can't be a 3rd-gen 250, so we can't just ignore the outliers even if they are comparatively few.

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