View Full Version : What size ratchet to take off front sprocket?


M-Oorb
January 11th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Went to go take off the front sprocket today...and I dont have the right size ratchet to take the nut off. I have a 22mm that was too small so I went to Sears and bought a 5 pack of Craftsman between 22-26 and none of them fitted :cool:. The 26mm was still a drop too small but before I go back to return them tomorrow and guess on another I was wondering if anyone knew the right size...Thanks!!

littlemike
January 11th, 2009, 08:59 PM
the socket is a 27 mm for the front sprocket, you can buy it individually at Sears. That what I did. I would keep the sockets that you got, you can't have to many tools :thumbup: Plus the nut on the rear wheel is a 24 mm size if you ever want to adjust your chain after a sprocket swap.

VeX
January 12th, 2009, 03:47 AM
If I can throw in my 2 pennies... Whenever I only need 1-2 sockets I typically go to an auto parts store (Kragen, Napa, etc.). They normally sell HIGH quality individual sockets for good prices and they're almost always 6-point sockets. I stopped buying from Sears as
A) I've broken (I'm not kidding) almost every single Craftsman socket I've ever owned.
B) I don't want to go to Sears every time I break A socket
C) A lot of times they only offer 12-point sockets.
D) Craftsman tools tend to be overpriced IMO
E) Believe it or not damn near everyone will warranty a socket. Go ahead and (if you can) break a socket you bought from Napa and bring it back. They'll without receipt and/or hassle just give you a brand shiny new one like Sears does.

Again some people are diehard Craftsman fans, and I tried to be, but Craftsman stopped making decent products decades ago and I refuse to shop there anymore.

g21-30
January 12th, 2009, 05:37 AM
Went to go take off the front sprocket today...and I dont have the right size ratchet to take the nut off.

I thought VeX was going to correct you on this.

We all know that you meant to say "I dont have the right size SOCKET to take the nut off." Am I not correct? Most likely you shouldn't be using a ratchet, anyway, as you might strip the ratchet mechanism, depending on how tight the bolt/nut is. Get yourself a nice 18"-24" 1/2" drive pull handle and the appropriate 1/2" drive metric sockets, unless of course, you have access to a compressor and air tools!

Good Luck!

M-Oorb
January 12th, 2009, 08:12 AM
Haha yeaa sorry I did mean socket...and thanks for the advice, I think I'll do that since what I've heard about the tightness of that bolt is not good things...very veryyy tight if I've heard right

Dan Kyle
January 12th, 2009, 10:59 AM
Just a tip, you can have a second person push hard on the rear brake to keep the sprocket from turning when you are trying to loosen it.

Be carfull on the balance of the bike when the person is pushing on the rear brake. Meaning do not let it fall over.

M-Oorb
January 12th, 2009, 12:05 PM
Got the 27 mm sprocket and decided to use a small 8in breaker bar with the bike in 1st gear and someone holding the rear breaks. Bad idea...the breaker bar bent...its ok it was a cheap one. So I went and picked up a heavy duty 15in breaker bar and tried again. With the bike in 1st gear and the rear break firmly held the back wheel continued to spin. I put a piece of PVC pipe through the rear rim...am no weakling and I got to the point I thought the bike would either come off the rear stand or I'd pull a muscle...that thing just would not turn. I tried some WD40 just hoping it would losen things up and still nothing. Im pulling the right way(counterclockwise) yet its not budging. Any ideas im getting frustrated and Im not about to go out and buy a compressor and air tools :mad:.

kkim
January 12th, 2009, 12:11 PM
Try putting a long piece of pipe over the end of the breaker bar and stand on the pipe. Try using a 2x4 through the swingarm and wheel. PVC pipe may be too soft.

Are you positive the locking washer is completely bent flat out of the way?

M-Oorb
January 12th, 2009, 12:15 PM
Yea the washer was completely flat. No 2x4 laying around but I figure wood would be just as soft as the PVC no? And there was no indent in the PVC pipe so I dont think that was the issue. Yea I think I'll try the pipe to get more leverage thanks for the tip I totally forgot about that.

kkim
January 12th, 2009, 12:22 PM
Depends on the diameter and wall thickness of the pvc pipe.

Try the pipe over the breaker bar and stand on it, if you can.

Have you tried standing on the breaker bar?

Erin_S
January 12th, 2009, 12:34 PM
As far as what size ratchet, I'd heavily recommend air sized. :)

M-Oorb
January 12th, 2009, 01:01 PM
Got another piece of PVC pipe and got it over the breaker bar and finaly got that thing off...almost flew into my chest. New problem though. The original sprocket had two rubber rings on either side of it...as seen in the first picture. The new sprocket didn't have any. Is this the O ring for our chain? I looked at the sprocket DIY and I have the same front sprocket as he does and his doesnt have a rubber ring either. Is it fine just to put it on like this?

kkim
January 12th, 2009, 01:11 PM
You should be fine w/o the rubber on the front sprocket. Must be something with the stock sprockets. My after market JT doesn't have a rubber piece. Pay attention to which side of the new sprocket you face inwards... IIRC, it's supposed to be the side w/ the bigger "lip" at the center portion. Someone else please confirm or deny.

The O-rings for the chain is something entirely different.

M-Oorb
January 12th, 2009, 01:28 PM
Kkim do me a favor and check the DIY on the sprocket swap...mine is faced exactly like the one shown in the picture...is this correct...well do YOU THINK this is correct

kkim
January 12th, 2009, 01:36 PM
I thought from what I read the JT stamp was supposed to face inwards... I can't remember for sure, though. Best you let someone who has actually done a front sprocket swap give you a definitive answer. I have the parts sitting on the work bench and have not installed mine yet. Sorry.

M-Oorb
January 12th, 2009, 02:42 PM
Well I went with what exactly was on the picture...just took it for a ride for about 10 min...first just around the block then out in the streets and it felt fine and it fit perfectly so im thinking(hoping) this is the way its supposed to be. If anyone finds out differently please let me know ASAPPPP