View Full Version : DIY: Zero Gravity Double Bubble


kkim
February 14th, 2009, 02:27 PM
After a discussion with Sound Wave, he pointed me in the direction of ZG Outlet to purchase a DB windscreen. Thanks, Gary! I ordered it last Saturday night and it arrived today in the mail. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showpost.php?p=23520&postcount=39
:dance:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcp7lZyxrI/AAAAAAAACmU/zsL7qCBCTLs/s640/DSC05055-1.JPG

Open the box, and this is what you get...

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcp-x14FoI/AAAAAAAACm0/r83iZgXv_0E/s640/DSC05059-1.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqInFHHBI/AAAAAAAACoQ/-A3l9mebcOk/s640/DSC05070-1.JPG

Instructions on the back of the bag...
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqJpKjvNI/AAAAAAAACoY/6PqRJ2Ei3Bo/s640/DSC05071-1.JPG


Okay, lets get busy and install this puppy. Incredibly easy... or so I thought. It's always something, isn't it? More on that later. :(

Begin with removing the 4 screws from around the perimeter of the stock windscreen.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqOYKJ8WI/AAAAAAAACpA/B6x74WLWPVs/s640/DSC05076-1.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqP-xDvXI/AAAAAAAACpQ/-QPG2vu85EE/s640/DSC05078-1.JPG

They are held on with the same setup as the fairings. A metal screw with a nylon washer to protect the bodywork and a captive nut in a rubber sleeve in back.

Here you can see how it is all put together. The other 3 are the same way.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqRlfxT9I/AAAAAAAACpg/M6T8XOYmhF4/s640/DSC05080-1.JPG

carefully slide the stock windscreen out.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqUKqQTvI/AAAAAAAACp4/05CuWR8tcMk/s640/DSC05083-1.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqU_u9IrI/AAAAAAAACqA/ciAVH1QSzIs/s640/DSC05084-1.JPG

You need to transfer the old mounting hardware from the old screen to the new. This is where my problem was. The rubber was old and cracking on the rubber sleeve that held the captive nut and I actually ended up breaking one sleeve. Be careful... mine was brittle and though I tried to be a careful as a I could, mine broke anyway.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqYd8gZsI/AAAAAAAACqk/VJ1zdbciEzQ/s640/DSC05088-1.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqXVdhqwI/AAAAAAAACqc/DAE3XQdcFP4/s640/DSC05087-1.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqcGxMKQI/AAAAAAAACrE/J7ZSGGzYeF0/s640/DSC05092-1.JPG

Comparison of the 2 screens.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqc0svRnI/AAAAAAAACrM/bsG1leBcKcM/s640/DSC05093-1.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqdiv7tMI/AAAAAAAACrU/sfJhejvofJA/s640/DSC05094-1.JPG


Transfer the rubber sleeves to the new screen. Only the top 2 requires this. You can see the broken sleeve in the second pic.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqiamLZaI/AAAAAAAACr8/1Dk6erx7elY/s640/DSC05099-1.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqjK3z1yI/AAAAAAAACsE/9_Or9i4fqIY/s640/DSC05100-1.JPG

Insert the new screen and loosely fit the screws on as you position it.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqj_jcsxI/AAAAAAAACsM/Fn0xWr4_2VU/s640/DSC05101-1.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqk0SDpcI/AAAAAAAACsU/Zzn49wuSiNs/s640/DSC05102-1.JPG

kkim
February 14th, 2009, 02:28 PM
Some shots of the bike before and after installation.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqOYKJ8WI/AAAAAAAACpA/B6x74WLWPVs/s640/DSC05076-1.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqljVh15I/AAAAAAAACsc/4ODuWlCKhDM/s640/DSC05103-1.JPG


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqMhfCMhI/AAAAAAAACow/TLiLisbwNTM/s640/DSC05074-1.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqmWnUWQI/AAAAAAAACsk/DuOBMJtx4MQ/s640/DSC05104-1.JPG


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqL1_hi7I/AAAAAAAACoo/0iANJqPfLqQ/s640/DSC05073-1.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqs0DqAAI/AAAAAAAACto/EVRHzBnLPY8/s640/DSC05112-1.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqsBtv4vI/AAAAAAAACtg/kKzzvxhCy8A/s640/DSC05111-1.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqoChLrlI/AAAAAAAACs0/aJ88o-mFsFg/s640/DSC05106-1.JPG


And of course the most important reason for choosing a Zero Gravity windscreen.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SZcqBziO9bI/AAAAAAAACnU/xbhVHyVpMl4/s640/DSC05063-1.JPG

Something most of us never considered before, but in these tough economic times, I try to support as many US based companies as possible, if the quality is comparable with their foreign counterparts. In this day and age, it could mean keeping your friends, neighbors or relatives employed. We should all be doing our part, however small, to bring the focus onto helping to revive our economy by making even small changes in our buying habits.

:usa2:


more install pics if you are interested..
http://picasaweb.google.com/kkim993/ZGDB#

noche_caliente
February 14th, 2009, 02:33 PM
You know, I was just coming over to do this with my wind screen.... you just beat me to it! :p

kkim
February 14th, 2009, 02:34 PM
Well, you would have been first if you didn't spend so much time sitting on the bike with the motor running. :p

Viper-Byte
February 14th, 2009, 02:35 PM
Wow, I got the Genuine Kawasaki after market screen and I thought that was bigger, yours is huge! What is the wind protection like with that one?

noche_caliente
February 14th, 2009, 02:36 PM
well it must have helped mellow me out, cause I didn't tear the little rubber grommets ;) besides, it is valentine's day....

kkim
February 14th, 2009, 02:36 PM
Dunno... I literally just got it installed minutes ago. :)

Viper-Byte
February 14th, 2009, 02:38 PM
well it must have helped mellow me out, cause I didn't tear the little rubber grommets ;) besides, it is valentine's day.... What?? that was yesterday! :p

Dunno... I literally just got it installed minutes ago. :) Well go for a ride then! :rolleyes:

CRXTrek
February 14th, 2009, 02:39 PM
Looks good.:thumbup:

I keep alot of spare bolts and wellnuts in the tool box. I wouldn't have gotten my fairing back on with the stock ones. They all tore.:(

headshrink
February 14th, 2009, 02:44 PM
Ohhhh I thought I had finally decided on the Puig..... but now I really can't decide.

Is that the light smoke?

noche_caliente
February 14th, 2009, 02:47 PM
Bob - I'll do one for Puig in a little bit... stay posted

Sailariel
February 14th, 2009, 02:51 PM
Kelly, That looks really sharp. It looks a lot more aerodynamic than the stock screen. I would guess that in straight line sprints you will notice a considerable improvement in stability. My friend put one on his 600RR Honda and found that to be the case. I plan to get the ZG Touring version. I did check out LaminarLip--also made in the USA, but it was more expensive and seemed to be a bit of a Rube Goldberg.

kkim
February 14th, 2009, 03:01 PM
Ohhhh I thought I had finally decided on the Puig..... but now I really can't decide.

Is that the light smoke?

Yes, light smoke. Either will do the job and to me they look almost identical. Puig is a Spanish company.

kkim
February 14th, 2009, 03:09 PM
I keep alot of spare bolts and wellnuts in the tool box. I wouldn't have gotten my fairing back on with the stock ones. They all tore.:(
Steve, where did you get the spares? Obviously, I'm going to need some. :)

CRXTrek
February 14th, 2009, 03:20 PM
I have a few from different places, but here's a link to some good ones


http://www.motosport.com/street/search/index.php?refine=1&sBrand=Keiti&srchHistoryURL=5qykn7d3||words~windscreen%20screw%20kits^parentCategoryID~catego ry_root^categoryID~3^categoryName~Sport

komohana
February 14th, 2009, 03:24 PM
new windscreen looks good on there
...and you're a FINE american! :usa:

Alex
February 14th, 2009, 06:08 PM
/posted to DIY sticky

Blue Monkey
February 14th, 2009, 07:48 PM
Love the new screen. That is number 2 on my to do list after the seat. I hope to be able to order the seat this week and the screen in a few more weeks when I get birthday money. Almost riding weather here. I saw a few brave riders the other day but it was only 18 degrees out. Thanks for the DIY.

kkim
February 14th, 2009, 07:50 PM
...but it was only 18 degrees out. brrrr... :smow:

Sound Wave
February 14th, 2009, 11:43 PM
hey! what gives? i don't have the stickers. what a gyp!! were those in the bag and you stuck them on? or were they already on the windscreen?

mine looks a bit plain. i gotta stick something on mine too.

kelly, the contrasting colors looks great!

kkim
February 15th, 2009, 12:11 AM
stickers were on the windshield when I got it out of the box. You should email them and ask them for some if you want them.

Link them this thread to show them what you are talking about. :D

thanks for the tip on where to get the ZG. I'd been looking for one for months, but hadn't found a reputable vendor. :thumbup:

HKr1
February 15th, 2009, 06:54 PM
Looks nice!

Also like this pic, 10 17 on the daytona..... :) Its my B-Day LOL ;)

Sailariel
February 15th, 2009, 07:54 PM
Kelly, Went to ZG Website and they make three windscreens for the Ninjette--SR Series, Part#20-281, Double Bubble, Part#16-281, and the Sport Touring, Part#23-281. The Sport Touring is 4.5" taller than the stock Kawa screen ZeroGravity-racing.com/sportbikes/kawasaki. The touring windshield is $89.95. I`ll see if I can get one through Dennis Kirk. They give a 10% discount to AMA members.

minizoom
February 19th, 2009, 11:57 PM
Steve, where did you get the spares? Obviously, I'm going to need some. :)

You can also order the well nuts here: http://www.desmoparts.com/ducati/wellnut/wellnut.htm
I just ordered a bunch and it came fast.

Nice write up as usual Kim! I was just trying to decide between the ZG & Puig. I think I'll get the ZG.

camaroz1985
February 20th, 2009, 08:19 AM
Alex, check out ZG outlet (www.zgoutlet.com). I got the sport touring there for $70 plus $12 shipping.

Here it is on my bike
Link (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9890)

minizoom
February 20th, 2009, 09:53 AM
Thanks guys for helping me decide! I just ordered the double bubble light smoke. Hopefully it's light enough for the gopro cam to see through.

headshrink
February 21st, 2009, 12:25 AM
After sleeping on it for a week, I just sent in my order for the light smoke too. *shhhh*, don't tell wife.

I had changed my mind to go with the smoother look of the Puig at one point, but when it came down to it I just want to be like Kelly (in the slightly 'slower' red)... so I ordered the Zero Gravity :D

kkim
February 21st, 2009, 12:42 AM
lol, Bob. In the end, the differences between the screens are not noticeable after awhile. Be proud you're supporting a US company. :)

I also took the bike out today to test it and it does seem a bit quieter and more subdued when riding. Nothing earth shattering, but there is a slight difference for me. I like it. :thumbup:

Jiu Jitsu Player
March 5th, 2009, 04:22 PM
I've been debating between the Puig and the ZG screens also. Thanks to Kkim's shpeel(sp?) about the economy it looks like I'll be going ZG. Nice work.

kkim
March 5th, 2009, 08:21 PM
:usa2:

headshrink
March 5th, 2009, 11:36 PM
Although the ZG does have a more abrupt transition from bubble #1 to bubble #2, I think it actually looks more natural in person. Some of the photos I have seen online make it look a little more harsh. It does however make the windshield look like it has a "pup tent"... it looks like it stands a little more erect (sorry, I don't know how else to say that...), so the profile of the front end is changes a little more toward a "touring look," without looking like a touring bike or windshield IMN2BHO. I think I just contradicted myself, but it makes sense in my head.

Sound Wave
March 5th, 2009, 11:56 PM
I think I just contradicted myself, but it makes sense in my head.
and that is all that matters. LOL :p

just playing

headshrink
March 5th, 2009, 11:59 PM
Hey Kelly, I got the same color (light smoke), and it looks a lot darker than the photos of yours. Is that an exposure thing, or do the photos accurately represent the colot/tint of yours? I actually really like the way it looks in the pics.... mine is a little darker than I prefer (gonna stick with it though).

Sound Wave
March 6th, 2009, 12:07 AM
the pics he posted are pretty accurate. i have the light smoke as well.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o8/sound_wavez/motorcycle/DSC_0007-2.jpg

kkim
March 6th, 2009, 12:08 AM
Bob,

Yes, I thought it looked rather dark for a light smoke myself, but if you notice, if the picture has a light or white background, the tint looks light. In real life, it looks pretty much as it does in the photos.

Post some pics of yours after you get it installed.... it would help others with the same colored bikes to make up their own minds.

islanderman7
March 9th, 2009, 05:12 PM
I decided to go with the dark smoke screen. For those of you who want to know how this looks here are some pics.

Anterior View
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_8r_fX7FIPTA/SbWla-xXtAI/AAAAAAAAAE8/-KPRabeAczQ/s512/DSCN0273.JPG

Posterior View to see opaqueness.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_8r_fX7FIPTA/SbWlZ8FYugI/AAAAAAAAAE0/FR60SjP_uZc/s640/DSCN0272.JPG

kylerwhite
March 9th, 2009, 06:16 PM
I have to say the dark smoke looks good!

Kelly have you done any videos with the dash mounted camera with the new screen? or is it to dark?

kkim
March 9th, 2009, 06:20 PM
I've not done any through the DB, but I have seen vids through tinted windshields and if it's a sunny day, it's no problem.

Sound Wave
March 9th, 2009, 08:19 PM
islanderman7, i like how the dark smoke looks like a continuation of the black bike's fairing.

miks
March 9th, 2009, 10:03 PM
The Dark one looks bloody beautiful, and damn thats one messy garage you got there mate.

hieuster
March 9th, 2009, 10:10 PM
I should be receiving my light smoke zg db on Wednesday. Wished I had seen islanderman7's pics before I had ordered it. It looks awesome.

headshrink
March 10th, 2009, 11:36 PM
Yes, the dark smoke does look really good on the black ninja.

I'll get my pics up in a few days (light smoke on red bike).

Jiu Jitsu Player
March 11th, 2009, 03:59 PM
About a week ago I ordered the dark smoke db for my red also. I must say that blacked out windshield look is just sick! It should be here any day now. I've got so many parts floating around in USPS limbo its crazy...

hieuster
March 11th, 2009, 04:15 PM
Woot woot! I received my package today. Will install it and take pictures of it after work tonight. :D

hieuster
March 11th, 2009, 06:13 PM
Here are the pics as promised. The install was very easy.

blubyu
March 11th, 2009, 08:05 PM
Damn - you beat me to it :) I received mine in the mail today also. Here is a pic.

Blue Monkey
March 12th, 2009, 09:13 PM
Thanks for the pictures. I want to get the same windscreen and my bike is blue too so your pictures gave me a good view of what it will look like. Looks great imo. I'm going to order mine next week and I will put some pictures up then too just in case we might need some more.

blubyu
March 12th, 2009, 09:17 PM
There can never be too many pictures of our pretty blue bikes :thumbup:

Jiu Jitsu Player
March 13th, 2009, 05:46 AM
Got mine in the mail yesterday and installed it. Definitely makes the bike look alot more slick. I just have to get used to not being able to see through that thing at all at night...

NICUNinja
March 15th, 2009, 05:46 PM
Okay, I know that the double bubble looks terrific, now I want to know other that how it looks does it give better wind protection? If so, is there a significant difference to make it worth while?

noche_caliente
March 15th, 2009, 06:33 PM
Well, I have the Puig, but in my opinion, yes it's much better! I was getting hit in the chest with the wind and almost felt like some of the bigger gusts would take me off the back, and now I feel like it's hitting on the visor or maybe just going over the top - it's much better!

NICUNinja
March 15th, 2009, 07:49 PM
Good to know, thank you. My husband has a double bubble Puig on the ZX14 and he swears that he noticed a difference but I wasn't sure if it would be the same with the seat positioning and bar placement on the 250.

kkim
March 15th, 2009, 07:54 PM
A lot depends on how tall you are where the air blast will hit. It does make it so that you can tuck out of the wind with less bending if you are inclined to do so.

Sound Wave
March 15th, 2009, 08:28 PM
i just came back from a ride and while i was on the freeway going about 65 mph, i was trying to figure out exactly where the wind was hitting me. i was moving my left hand up and down. when i sit in my normal riding position, it hits me at my collar bones/neck. i wish it was a bit higher or lower, because sometimes my neck gets a bit uncomfortable with the wind hitting it like that... so, if i duck down a bit, it will hit me in the faceshield instead.

Jiu Jitsu Player
March 25th, 2009, 08:53 PM
Here are some pics of a ZG double bubble dark smoke on a red bike for those who want to visualize it. Sorry about the resolution.

As far as function goes, it helps reduce the wind that hits you. I'm 5'6 and all the wind seems to glance off the top of my helmet now with a moderate tuck.

Verus Cidere
March 26th, 2009, 09:45 PM
I've been planning to get a zg double bubble for Fury too. It's a slightly different install, so should I make a different DIY or just post a little year change section here?

kkim
March 26th, 2009, 09:50 PM
I say do your own and post it up in the pregen section. The more the merrier and it would be more specific for that model.

Verus Cidere
March 26th, 2009, 09:51 PM
Gotcha. I'll do it if someone doesn't beat me to it. Got an exhaust and a rearset to get first. ;)

Blue Monkey
March 27th, 2009, 04:10 PM
I just ordered my zg db light smoke screen today. Can't wait to get it. Pictures coming soon.

NICUNinja
March 27th, 2009, 04:56 PM
My ZG dark smoke dbl bubble arrived today after I got in from my ride, put it on (only took a couple of minutes) and went out again. Huge difference...I am only 5'3", the wind went right over my head. :)

headshrink
March 27th, 2009, 05:15 PM
5'8" and although I do feel a difference, and like it, I think the winds still hits me at least in the sholders..... unless my belly is on the tank of course.

Funny though, I can't remember where it hit me with the stock shield now. I think there is a low-pressure zone at times on the the freeway, makes me want to stick my head in more or out.... I almost don't notice it anymore though.

tyusha
April 1st, 2009, 05:16 PM
this is a little off topic, but does anyone know what size are those well nuts that hold the screen and fairings in place? thanks in advance!

Sound Wave
April 1st, 2009, 08:18 PM
this is a little off topic, but does anyone know what size are those well nuts that hold the screen and fairings in place? thanks in advance!
i don't know what size they are, but post 15 of this thread, links to where you can get them.... just in case you missed that post.

kkim
April 1st, 2009, 08:25 PM
Those allen screws fit a 5MM nut out of my toolbox, so I would assume it is a M5 wellnut.

tyusha
April 2nd, 2009, 05:57 AM
Those allen screws fit a 5MM nut out of my toolbox, so I would assume it is a M5 wellnut.

Thanks a lot!! i will order some today...

mike_sema
April 2nd, 2009, 07:23 PM
man i have to say that the zg db is great i got the dark smoke :thumbup:

Sound Wave
April 4th, 2009, 09:51 PM
some of you with really good memories may recall that mine didn't come with any sticker on it. it looked really bare to me. i tried putting red pinstriping on it, but took it off after a couple days.

i ended up getting a "kawasaki" sticker made by caboose over on kawiforums. i gave him the dimensions of the oem windshield screen decal. i think it looks great! funny how something so small can just finish off a detail.

kkim
April 4th, 2009, 09:54 PM
looks good! :thumbup:

should have ordered 2. ;)

Shift250R
April 4th, 2009, 10:10 PM
Gary, where did you get that trim for the top ive never seen that on a ZG screen. It looks nice.

Sound Wave
April 4th, 2009, 10:12 PM
thanks. it is actually door edge guard for cars. i tried doing it along the whole top, but the curve was too sharp, so i trimmed it off at the corners. i think it gives the windscreen a bit more visual interest.

islanderman7
April 4th, 2009, 10:18 PM
Gary that looks nice. Looks like an OEM wind shield.

Sound Wave
April 4th, 2009, 11:30 PM
thanks jordan. i was debating doing my screen name in the "kawasaki" font, but decided to just stick with the oem look.

people who don't know what the stock bike looks like may think i just smoked the stock windscreen.

komohana
April 5th, 2009, 12:30 AM
that IS sweet brah :thumbup:

andrewwoo
April 29th, 2009, 11:06 AM
man.. i dont even have a 250r.. yet.. and i want it!

py2e
May 19th, 2009, 10:50 AM
Dark smoke ZG DB on a black bike. That's not me... I have hairy legs, and I don't wear girl sneakers nor short shorts... no, not even on weekends.

kkim
May 19th, 2009, 12:42 PM
...and I don't wear girl sneakers nor short shorts... no, not even on weekends.

...not even in the closet? :rolleyes:

py2e
May 19th, 2009, 01:39 PM
...not even in the closet? :rolleyes:

why? you need a buddy? :p

lockie
May 20th, 2009, 09:41 AM
Is there a Canadian website to order a ZG screen?

Buffalony
May 20th, 2009, 09:49 AM
some of you with really good memories may recall that mine didn't come with any sticker on it. it looked really bare to me. i tried putting red pinstriping on it, but took it off after a couple days.

i ended up getting a "kawasaki" sticker made by caboose over on kawiforums. i gave him the dimensions of the oem windshield screen decal. i think it looks great! funny how something so small can just finish off a detail.

I copied you with the logo. I ordered an oem sticker when I ordered my fairing. Just need to install it now. I also like the trim Gary. Nice touch. I'll have to steal that idea too. :D

Sound Wave
May 20th, 2009, 04:17 PM
I copied you with the logo. I ordered an oem sticker when I ordered my fairing. Just need to install it now. I also like the trim Gary. Nice touch. I'll have to steal that idea too. :D

sincerest form of flattery :)

looks like you have excellent taste :D

ScorpionNinja
August 15th, 2009, 05:45 PM
as far as light smoke or dark smoke, think like this... If you get a Light smoke you can Always take it off to use some TINT on the backside to make it as dark as you wanna, likewise! :thumbup:

thats what i plan on doing. im still unsure of a ZG-DB, or a PUIG-DB! lol

headshrink
August 15th, 2009, 05:51 PM
I vote for ZG. It is a little more dramatic looking, and likely more effectuve.
It is also USA made (for real, not just owned in USA).

ScorpionNinja
August 15th, 2009, 06:04 PM
hmmm yea after looking more searches on PICs of the 2..... Im gonna go with the ZG DB light smoke! :thumbup:

That and yesterday when i called my favorite local store for motorcycle gear... Sportbiketrackgear.com

I was unhappy to hear that their stock of PUIG DB screens for the 250R are on BACKORDER, might take 2 weeks+ :(

Screw that i wanna get one ASAP! :D
Ill call em Monday and find out how much, how Long will it take for them to Order me a ZG-DB in light smoke!!! Brain van told me they could order a ZG, if i really wanted. So once i get the 411, and i hear theyll sell me a ZG for like $70 (i hope they dont want like $85+) and only take 2 days ... ill just Keep an Eye on Ebay for a ZG-DB.

(like 3-4 weeks ago when i called on PUIG 250R DB, "Itll be here in 2 days... you want me to order that PUIG for ya dave?") I was undecided back then... so i told him "nah, im still looking into getting 1 or the other, lol"

Blue Monkey
August 15th, 2009, 10:52 PM
I have ordered a few helmets from this same store. I wish i lived close to it like you. They seem really helpful and carry nice stuff. I have a light smoke ZG DB and i love it plenty dark for me.

DarkNinja52
January 23rd, 2010, 02:53 AM
I'll be using this 'very complicated' DIY tomorrow when I put my DB ZG on as well. It's dark smoke, it might be too dark but I doubt I'll really need to see through the windscreen that often. Either way, it'll look badass, pics to come!

rustler753
January 30th, 2010, 09:54 PM
mmm good place to get it cheap?

DarkNinja52
January 31st, 2010, 04:31 PM
got mine off fatbikez.com for about 70, took them a month to ship it though...
try and find a factory 2nd, idk if they have any 2nds for the new gens tho, couldnt find any

anomolli
March 31st, 2010, 02:04 PM
KKim,

I just installed my ZG wind screen today and I'm having trouble with the two lower screws. It seems like there's nothing for the threads to catch on, like there's no nut for the screw to catch. Any ideas?

kkim
March 31st, 2010, 02:13 PM
check the wellnuts that the screws thread into... they are most likely broken and need to be replaced.

Reswob
March 31st, 2010, 02:21 PM
KKim,

I just installed my ZG wind screen today and I'm having trouble with the two lower screws. It seems like there's nothing for the threads to catch on, like there's no nut for the screw to catch. Any ideas?

If you shine a light into the hole you should see brass-colored threads if the stupid rubber nut hasn't broken off. I discovered yesterday (after taking the fairing apart of course :rolleyes: ) that 2 of the windshield screws are longer in order to thread into the bottom holes. The shorter ones wouldn't reach the thread for me.

anomolli
March 31st, 2010, 05:13 PM
check the wellnuts that the screws thread into... they are most likely broken and need to be replaced.

You were right, the back part of the rubber nut thingy broke off. :-( I managed to salvage them but it was a pain in the butt. Thanks for your help.

Scott1620
March 31st, 2010, 05:37 PM
You were right, the back part of the rubber nut thingy broke off. :-( I managed to salvage them but it was a pain in the butt. Thanks for your help.

Yea I just installed mine and had the same issue, I switched the upper wellnuts to the lower part. This requires you to take your fairings off and pull the gauge cluster out enough to put the well nuts back in. It was a real PITA... :banghead:

You can get well nuts or a complete bolt set here:
http://www.bikebolts.com/kawasaki-parts/ninja-250rex-250/08-09-kawasaki-ex250r-complete-fairing-fastener-kit

Coupon for that place:
http://www.bikebolts.com/Forum_Products/F-Fairing_Bolt_Kits.htm

I just took the bike for a ride today and the difference is amazing. The wind is directed up over my shoulders now, definitely worth it...

Thanks again for the DIY kkim :thumbup:

anomolli
March 31st, 2010, 06:19 PM
Yea I just installed mine and had the same issue, I switched the upper wellnuts to the lower part. This requires you to take your fairings off and pull the gauge cluster out enough to put the well nuts back in. It was a real PITA... :banghead:

You can get well nuts or a complete bolt set here:
http://www.bikebolts.com/kawasaki-parts/ninja-250rex-250/08-09-kawasaki-ex250r-complete-fairing-fastener-kit

Coupon for that place:
http://www.bikebolts.com/Forum_Products/F-Fairing_Bolt_Kits.htm

I just took the bike for a ride today and the difference is amazing. The wind is directed up over my shoulders now, definitely worth it...

Thanks again for the DIY kkim :thumbup:
LOL, i know the feeling! I pretty much had to do the same thing, only after the fourth try was i successful. By that time, it was too late so will give her a spin tomorrow. Glad to hear you like the product.

Rayme
May 8th, 2010, 07:03 PM
So I just ordered a light smoke DB for my red 250R... Only reason I went with light gray is I have already a dark smoke screen for my Icon helmet so I don't want to be completely blind when ducking on those long highway runs :) Will post pics when done :)

ScorpionNinja
May 8th, 2010, 07:40 PM
So I just ordered a light smoke DB for my red 250R... Only reason I went with light gray is I have already a dark smoke screen for my Icon helmet so I don't want to be completely blind when ducking on those long highway runs :) Will post pics when done :)

Really, only difference youll notice from a light vs dark smoke ZG-DB is if you Ride at Night!
During the day it wont matter. Unless you have a GPS unit mounted in such a way, the dark DB reflects too much glare at you or sumin'.

headshrink
May 8th, 2010, 09:01 PM
Yeah, the light gray would be considered dark in my book. I have the light gray, and like it, but it had to grow on me because I thought I was actually ordering LIGHT gray. It looks pretty good on the red.

ScorpionNinja
May 11th, 2010, 09:02 AM
Yeah, the light gray would be considered dark in my book. I have the light gray, and like it, but it had to grow on me because I thought I was actually ordering LIGHT gray. It looks pretty good on the red.

I have light smoke ZG DB, on my ninja!

As you can see, on a sunny day or up close it looks light, Dusk or cloudy days it looks DARK!

Buffalony
May 18th, 2010, 09:10 AM
I have light smoke ZG DB, on my ninja!

As you can see, on a sunny day or up close it looks light, Dusk or cloudy days it looks DARK!

Nice spikes :evil:

Older pic of my dark smoke ZG :D
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=105&pictureid=1252

ScorpionNinja
May 19th, 2010, 02:52 PM
Nice spikes :evil:

Older pic of my dark smoke ZG :D
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=105&pictureid=1252

:lol:

You even took it one step further on me!

1-up with the Spiked Rear Swingarm-Spools!!! :D


Joe, how many times have you poked or cut yourself while Washing your Bike?

I cut my wrist twice, my thumb once, last year from all the washings! :ouch:

CZroe
August 6th, 2010, 09:43 AM
If you shine a light into the hole you should see brass-colored threads if the stupid rubber nut hasn't broken off. I discovered yesterday (after taking the fairing apart of course :rolleyes: ) that 2 of the windshield screws are longer in order to thread into the bottom holes. The shorter ones wouldn't reach the thread for me.

Can we mention this in the OP? It has caused some problems for a few:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=52161

dubojr1
August 6th, 2010, 10:14 AM
Seems I heard someone say the bolts are different lengths too. Just a thought.

00NissanNinja
August 6th, 2010, 10:17 AM
Seems I heard someone say the bolts are different lengths too. Just a thought.

They are... bottom ones are longer(not by much either...) than the bolts at the top of the windscreen

CZroe
August 6th, 2010, 10:19 AM
Seems I heard someone say the bolts are different lengths too. Just a thought.

The post that bumped it just before you quoted the post and discussed it directly, but thanks for bringing it up on the new page (got BotP'd). ;)

Mac
August 6th, 2010, 09:02 PM
Bought mine yesterday, great DIY. Ill post pics when im done!

RedCromwell
May 21st, 2011, 05:38 AM
Grrr... bought my ZG double bubble windscreen (dark smoke) from motorcycle-superstore.com... I'm usually very pleased with them. Unfortunately, this time they didn't take any precautions when shipping and the windscreen arrived damaged.

I had ordered a new jacket at the same time and whoever packed it threw both the jacket and the windscreen in the same box with no packing material whatsoever.

I was looking forward to putting the windscreen on today and evaluating the results, but now... :( ... now, I'm processing a return.

I'll still go for a ride to feel better.

http://opt9sq.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pLK-er7O3qn8eYnP-s7uWXJSRdNdV0gMuWhdg6lDcWwMvCCedd2e2zUj4vAKtuHGXBUrCqyZ_rwfsyvR6kklB5enicnJ9IUaw/P5210041.JPG?psid=1

Chefdota
May 23rd, 2011, 12:18 AM
hows the dark smoke screen and dark smoke helmet visor = dangerous?

CZroe
May 23rd, 2011, 01:14 AM
hows the dark smoke screen and dark smoke helmet visor = dangerous?

Uhh, you don't look through the windscreen. That's why so many paint theirs solid black. :)

Sound Wave
May 23rd, 2011, 03:17 AM
hows the dark smoke screen and dark smoke helmet visor = dangerous?

during the day it is easy to see through. with a clear helmet visor, it can be difficult at times to see though the dark screen at night... it depends on the amount of street light available.

Uhh, you don't look through the windscreen. That's why so many paint theirs solid black. :)

i used to use mine whenever i was in a full tuck to either get out of the wind or the rain. i still do it with my honda as well.

Shaol1n Monk
July 19th, 2011, 08:34 PM
thanks for this DIY KKim, i have a windscreen on the way and was wondering if i needed to take the dash mount out to install. wasnt sure if the 2 lower nuts holding screen in place would fall into fairing. apparently its a simple install, as long as my rubbers are in one piece ;)

headshrink
July 19th, 2011, 09:17 PM
thanks for this DIY KKim, i have a windscreen on the way and was wondering if i needed to take the dash mount out to install. wasnt sure if the 2 lower nuts holding screen in place would fall into fairing. apparently its a simple install, as long as my rubbers are in one piece ;)

Nope, they are held in place by plastic bracket/tabs. IIRC, you only need to remove the bolts on the windsheild itself.

Shaol1n Monk
July 19th, 2011, 09:31 PM
Nope, they are held in place by plastic bracket/tabs. IIRC, you only need to remove the bolts on the windsheild itself.

sweet! thnx headshrink

phEight
July 22nd, 2011, 12:51 PM
Hmm, I think I'm going to order the dark smoke one soon for my 2011 white ninjette. I think the contrast will look pretty awesome (hopefully).

headshrink
July 22nd, 2011, 03:33 PM
Hmm, I think I'm going to order the dark smoke one soon for my 2011 white ninjette. I think the contrast will look pretty awesome (hopefully).

IMO light smoke is actually dark smoke.... so dark smoke will really be DARK smoke. I have grown to like the light smoke, but was initially disappointed to see how dark it is. I say this just to underscore how dark dark will be, so if that is what you like, you will probably be happy with it. I think these windshields tend to look darker than they are because we really aren't looking through them, but down at them, so light doesn't come through it the same as if we were looking through them.

phEight
July 22nd, 2011, 04:10 PM
IMO light smoke is actually dark smoke.... so dark smoke will really be DARK smoke. I have grown to like the light smoke, but was initially disappointed to see how dark it is. I say this just to underscore how dark dark will be, so if that is what you like, you will probably be happy with it. I think these windshields tend to look darker than they are because we really aren't looking through them, but down at them, so light doesn't come through it the same as if we were looking through them.
Thanks, I think you've convinced me to not get the dark smoke. I did notice the light smoke definitely has some dark tones, and I think that will look great with the white ninjette. The dark smoke might be a bit much dark and stick out more than I'd like it to.

smiley424
July 23rd, 2011, 09:20 AM
Yeah, dark smoke is pretty much black. I would have gotten light smoke, but that was on backorder and I didn't want to wait, so I got dark smoke. I like it though, it works with my 2009 SE (green/black/white).

2011Ninja250R
July 23rd, 2011, 11:51 AM
Great DIY post here. I got the dark smoke ZG SR series. I love it. Looks great and fits perfect.

Buffalony
July 24th, 2011, 03:22 PM
:lol:

You even took it one step further on me!

1-up with the Spiked Rear Swingarm-Spools!!! :D


Joe, how many times have you poked or cut yourself while Washing your Bike?

I cut my wrist twice, my thumb once, last year from all the washings! :ouch:

More than a year later I noticed this post. Sorry. I took a break from the forums for a while.

I havent been cut by the windshield spikes yet (knock on green). I love watching people walk up to them then pressing them and saying "Ouch, those are sharp" when they expected them not to be. I'm actually really surprised how sharp they are. The very tip of them dont hold paint. lol I think they look great next to the ZG DB. I tend to catch rather large bugs with the top two spikes. Recently, a non-biker gf of mine asked me what they for! I told her "to catch birds!"

I am a little concerned about the bar end spikes piercing me in a crash. I take them off from time to time. I noticed having an angle on the bar end can be a great thing on long rides to help me straighten my right wrist.

I have black spiked valve caps too :)

gt_turbo
July 25th, 2011, 06:18 PM
got mines in clear. works great! just need to fix the lower rotted out well nuts. i'll get around to it next time i need to take off the fairings.

phEight
July 25th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Ordered the light smoke, can't wait to get it in. I shall post pics once I put it on.

BlackNinja
July 28th, 2011, 08:33 AM
I have the dark smoke double bubble on mine. It might as well be spray painted black...it's dark alright! However, it looks super sexy on the black ninja!

Trailerboy531
August 5th, 2011, 02:18 PM
Just installed my dark smoke, looks great and even though it was pretty straight forward this DIY was still helpful. We miss Kelly!

Snake
August 5th, 2011, 02:24 PM
Just installed my dark smoke, looks great and even though it was pretty straight forward this DIY was still helpful. We miss Kelly!

:worthlesswithoutpic

Trailerboy531
August 5th, 2011, 02:26 PM
:worthlesswithoutpic

haha I will have them up eventually but my bike is in the middle of repair after a lowside so....I don't want to have a nice windscreen with a bunch of damage around it! pics coming later :p