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This Girl Rides
June 30th, 2013, 01:32 PM
So, as some of you know (and many don't) I have been working with the president of the company Area P, Kerry Bryant, by allowing them to use my 300 to test fitment on their FIRST (yes, first :D ) production exhaust. Along with that they also ran dyno tunings and mapping to make sure it was running optimally.

As far as my bike this is the run down of what was put onto it;

Full carbon fiber high mount shorty exhaust
Mounting brackets
Rear peg delete
Fairing spacers
FI Tuner from Fuel Moto
Fender eliminator (Targa)


They ran many dyno test while the bike was there, I left it for a week so they put tons of time into making everything perfect with their tuning and mapping. I couldn't be any happier with the results.

Here is the chart, the proof is in the pudding:
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/brittneys_bike_300_ninja_SAE_zps7083028f.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/brittneys_bike_300_ninja_SAE_zps7083028f.jpg.html)


As you can see it really shows how the 300 with the stock exhaust peaks at 10750 rpm and starts to drop off quickly from that point on. When they put on the Ultra High Mount system, you can see it continues to build power and then maintains the power all the way to the soft limiter at 12750 rpm. The Area P system all together makes over 7 hp more than stock, after 11500 and above. I must say it is VERY impressive when you are talking about a modification gaining you that much HP. Aside of the peak power though you can clearly see that the Area P system makes power right from the bottom 3000 rpm, all the way to the soft limiter. Area P spend a lot of R&D time to achieve this and I must say they hit the nail RIGHT on the head. The "dip" in the powerband at about 8750 - 9500 is part of the characteristics of the Ultra High Mount system, as explained to me by Kerry Bryant it's what they call a peak power pipe, where it really starts to "hit" at 9500 rpm and pulls all the way to the soft limiter. The quote from Kerry about it was "It lets you "know" that you are really making power through the "seat of your pants" and that you do not need to be looking at a Dyno chart to feel it."

The look is phenomenal; the combination of the carbon fiber, high mount, and everything ties in so well together in my opinion. The high mount really is amazing, on this system especially it tucks in so clean to the bike. Area P really outdid themselves with this one, they seemed to have paid extreme attention to every curve on this bike making the system look as if it was supposed to be there all along. Also, the FI Tuner was placed under my back seat in the near non-existent "trunk" persay :p PERFECT use of this space, Kerry placed it under there and mounted it into place using velcro so it is easily taken off and easily at that if ever desired.

I honestly cannot be ANY happier with this system, in all seriousness. It completely exceeded my expectations! You can instantly feel the difference, it gains so much more than just sound. As far as sound, once again blew me away. It is a very throaty raw sound, deep and crisp. I will be doing a nice sound clip video as soon as the weather here lets up for long enough and will post it asap. Until then here are some pictures of my bike and her system and mods;

http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2626_zpsad93a72e.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2626_zpsad93a72e.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2625_zps117771dc.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2625_zps117771dc.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2624_zps5b7ddd5b.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2624_zps5b7ddd5b.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2622_zps97a1ccfa.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2622_zps97a1ccfa.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2621_zpsd1b3ad54.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2621_zpsd1b3ad54.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2620_zps2a8eb3ce.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2620_zps2a8eb3ce.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2619_zps9da2ad65.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2619_zps9da2ad65.jpg.html)
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http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2618_zps1d88cb6a.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2618_zps1d88cb6a.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2617_zps5360d1be.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2617_zps5360d1be.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2615_zpsb1d14277.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2615_zpsb1d14277.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2614_zps70347efb.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2614_zps70347efb.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2613_zps35d3c017.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2613_zps35d3c017.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2612_zps1962440f.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2612_zps1962440f.jpg.html)
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u540/KawasakiNinja300/100_2611_zps4de206f2.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/KawasakiNinja300/media/100_2611_zps4de206f2.jpg.html)


Overall, my experience with Area P & Kerry Bryant really impressed me, not only was Kerry an endless dictionary of useful information and there to answer ANY of my questions but he also made sure to update me and fill me in on everything there could be to know. I would recommend them anyday!

JohnnyBravo
June 30th, 2013, 02:14 PM
Looks good! Consider me impressed! When I go for tuner and exhaust I know what I'll be getin

Tigerpaw
June 30th, 2013, 03:23 PM
Great post. Beautiful pics. Area P are masters at their craft. My bike will be the next Area P guinea pig for the Fuel Moto folks in Wisconsin. I can't wait to ride it after that. Their full system really woke up my old 250. This time, I will be getting the SS long/quiet core, on a black 300. The pics will be nice to compare to yours.

Have fun when the weather breaks!

Soooo jealous right now:p

This Girl Rides
June 30th, 2013, 03:39 PM
Great post. Beautiful pics. Area P are masters at their craft. My bike will be the next Area P guinea pig for the Fuel Moto folks in Wisconsin. I can't wait to ride it after that. Their full system really woke up my old 250. This time, I will be getting the SS long/quiet core, on a black 300. The pics will be nice to compare to yours.

Have fun when the weather breaks!

Soooo jealous right now:p

Yes, they truly are CRAFTSMEN at what they do. I am pretty obsessed with it all, :D

I also did hear about your bike going to fuel moto, enjoy man! :)
My experience down here in FL was nothing short of AMAZING. Kerry is a wonderful person to deal with and def not my last purchase from them by no means. Hopefully grabbing a mimic of my system for my man for his birthday, gonna be putting in some overtime at work and makin it happen..

You WILL NOT be disappointed I can guarantee it!

Bentley813
June 30th, 2013, 05:13 PM
And the quiet core muffler makes an even stronger powerband that that. Looks nice.

Panda
June 30th, 2013, 05:59 PM
The "dip" in the powerband at about 8750 - 9500 is part of the characteristics of the Ultra High Mount system, as explained to me by Kerry Bryant it's what they call a peak power pipe, where it really starts to "hit" at 9500 rpm and pulls all the way to the soft limiter. The quote from Kerry about it was "It lets you "know" that you are really making power through the "seat of your pants" and that you do not need to be looking at a Dyno chart to feel it."


So Area P is claiming that flat spot is purposeful? It almost sounds like they are trying to make a flaw sound like something intentional or beneficial. :confused:

This Girl Rides
June 30th, 2013, 06:05 PM
So Area P is claiming that flat spot is purposeful? It almost sounds like they are trying to make a flaw sound like something intentional or beneficial. :confused:

I don't think it is meant to be purposeful as much as he just explained to me that it is characteristic in the high mount systems as a whole. The high mount systems gain the most at top end, but at lower end they gain lower amounts then at peak BUT stay consistent in the fact that you are gaining all over and not in a singular spot.

If you look at most Dyno charts for any exhaust you will usually see they either gain low end or high end. This system gains all the way through but screams at high end gain which is awesome :D As stated a 7hp gain is pretty darn substantial, especially on a 300.

Dark
July 1st, 2013, 02:28 AM
Usually, a larger and shorter exhaust will yield more top end power while sacrificing low end. (Less back pressure)

A narrow and longer exhaust will yield the most low end while sacrificing top end. (More back pressure)

The Area P system you have appears to use rather large header pipes which is likely why the peak numbers are so different and may also explain why your midrange numbers are fairly close to each other (despite being a high mount system).

Dark
July 1st, 2013, 02:38 AM
Secondly, I would venture to say that the dead spot around 9200-9700rpm is likely due to conflicting exhaust pulses (if not fuel/ignition tuning related) and they may benefit with a crossover pipe.

Racer x
July 1st, 2013, 03:57 AM
Good job! The bike looks great.

All these engines seem to have a dip in the dyno chart. I think it might be the ignition . I am able to tune that out with the BRT.

This Girl Rides
July 1st, 2013, 03:42 PM
VIDEO HERE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6-phY0MBOY

Aggrotech
July 1st, 2013, 03:55 PM
VIDEO HERE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6-phY0MBOY

I doubt they are..but are those the stock rear turn signals? and have you noticed the end cap/billet getting hot enough to burn the back part of the signals? At the beginning i thought they were touching haha

felo
July 1st, 2013, 04:40 PM
Great post. Beautiful pics. Area P are masters at their craft. My bike will be the next Area P guinea pig for the Fuel Moto folks in Wisconsin. I can't wait to ride it after that. Their full system really woke up my old 250. This time, I will be getting the SS long/quiet core, on a black 300. The pics will be nice to compare to yours.

Have fun when the weather breaks!

Soooo jealous right now:p

when you install it over there at fuel moto, do some dyno passes with stock exhaust , full exhaust but with the stock air box , then with the pods for comparison, if you can

felo
July 1st, 2013, 04:54 PM
Secondly, I would venture to say that the dead spot around 9200-9700rpm is likely due to conflicting exhaust pulses (if not fuel/ignition tuning related) and they may benefit with a crossover pipe.
area p tuner only tunes the a/f tables, i bet with ignition timming tunning, you could tune that dead spot

alex.s
July 1st, 2013, 04:56 PM
it's so pretty.

Tigerpaw
July 1st, 2013, 04:58 PM
when you install it over there at fuel moto, do some dyno passes with stock exhaust , full exhaust but with the stock air box , then with the pods for comparison, if you can

I am delivering the bike but won't be around for the work. I can't speak to which dyno runs Area P/Fuel Moto will want.

kbryant

This Girl Rides
July 1st, 2013, 05:31 PM
I doubt they are..but are those the stock rear turn signals? and have you noticed the end cap/billet getting hot enough to burn the back part of the signals? At the beginning i thought they were touching haha
Not stock signals, that is the Targa FE kit. Kerry placed some heat tape underneath as a preventive measure but we both agreed we don't feel it is necessarily needed. Guess it would depend the quality of FE kit and materials on it, how long your riding straight through for the pipes temps, environmental temperatures thrown into combination, ect. Doesn't hurt to be extra careful and apply the heat tape :)

it's so pretty.
Thank you so much, i'm pretty addicted

ninjamunky85
July 1st, 2013, 05:40 PM
Bike's lookin' sick. :thumbup:

I'm loving the look of that high mount exhaust, but I don't want to get rid of my passenger pegs so I'm stickin' with the regular shorty.

So when you gonna get the solo seat cowl???

This Girl Rides
July 1st, 2013, 05:59 PM
Bike's lookin' sick. :thumbup:

I'm loving the look of that high mount exhaust, but I don't want to get rid of my passenger pegs so I'm stickin' with the regular shorty.

So when you gonna get the solo seat cowl???

Well,that is NEXT on my list but right now all my extra is going towards buying my man a mimic exhaust setup like mine from Area P for his birthday. :D

& thanks for the compliments :D

felo
July 1st, 2013, 06:04 PM
Well,that is NEXT on my list but right now all my extra is going towards buying my man a mimic exhaust setup like mine from Area P for his birthday. :D

& thanks for the compliments :D

you shouldnt said that, now is not a surprise ;)

This Girl Rides
July 1st, 2013, 06:08 PM
you shouldnt said that, now is not a surprise ;)

I'm safe, he isn't on this forum :p

felo
July 1st, 2013, 06:22 PM
VIDEO HERE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6-phY0MBOY
you should try and put the brake fluid reserve horizontal, is kinda sideways

kbryant
July 2nd, 2013, 05:31 AM
you should try and put the brake fluid reserve horizontal, is kinda sideways

It's actually not "sideways". We simply position it tilted slightly back within the design of the mounting bracket and to gain extra clearance for the res line to the tightly tucked in High Mount mid-pipe. It is clarified in the installation instruction manual as to why we do this. ;)

FYI - On race bikes, it is actually very common to completely remove the reservoir and simply use what is in the line (which is way more than enough in most cases). The "Reservoir" is replaced with a vented cap/bolt type assembly (like from HRC), that allows proper venting. Looks extremely clean and removes the clutter. It's a very sano mod. :thumbup:

Dark
July 2nd, 2013, 06:58 AM
It's common for track bikes but you really need to keep a watchfull eye on it with a streetbike. More so, you need to use proper hose that won't weep the fluid.

I ran a similar setup on my R1.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iOSZQH81xt8/S0T5ekIgoLI/AAAAAAAAH8A/Aujw9E2MvCQ/w471-h706-no/R1+029.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iK88Q2uWvyk/S5VLiP0U-qI/AAAAAAAAIsg/lufZk_7b0uQ/w471-h706-no/R1+035.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hdZ9ILd4FP4/S7304kqHT8I/AAAAAAAAJDA/9fj5AE3adr8/w954-h636-no/R1+001.JPG

felo
July 2nd, 2013, 04:50 PM
It's actually not "sideways". We simply position it tilted slightly back within the design of the mounting bracket and to gain extra clearance for the res line to the tightly tucked in High Mount mid-pipe. It is clarified in the installation instruction manual as to why we do this. ;)

FYI - On race bikes, it is actually very common to completely remove the reservoir and simply use what is in the line (which is way more than enough in most cases). The "Reservoir" is replaced with a vented cap/bolt type assembly (like from HRC), that allows proper venting. Looks extremely clean and removes the clutter. It's a very sano mod. :thumbup:

thanks for the clarifications kbryant

thisisbenji
July 2nd, 2013, 05:33 PM
Thats a good looking exhaust!! I loved my Area P on my 250, I'm kind of bummed it's not an option on my FZ6.

That R1 is hot!

beazy411
July 5th, 2013, 08:54 AM
That is one nice looking bike. How much louder is it over stock when just commuting and behaving?

choneofakind
July 5th, 2013, 01:10 PM
That is one nice looking bike. How much louder is it over stock when just commuting and behaving?

Static sound readings: Idle / 5000rpm
Stock/OEM: 79 dbA / 89 dbA
Area P/Standard Mount System/Standard Muffler: 88 dbA / 102 dbA
Area P/Standard Mount System/Long Quiet Core Muffler: 81 dbA / 92 dbA
Area P/Ultra High Mount System/Standard Muffler: 85 dbA / 97 dbA

http://areapnolimits.com/products/Slip-On-Exhaust-Kawasaki-Ninja-300-2013.php

Area P is one of the few places that actually supplies noise level numbers for their systems.

ninjamunky85
July 5th, 2013, 01:19 PM
Yeah, I got the loudest one.:rolleyes:

We'll see if it's louder than the two-bros on my supermoto, that exhaust is pretty eff'n loud.

This Girl Rides
July 5th, 2013, 04:43 PM
Def. MUCH louder than the stock, and SO much more crisp and raw sounding.

This Girl Rides
July 18th, 2013, 07:47 AM
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/bump/grand/1745785111.gif


Figured with all the talk in the GB for the Area P systems I would BUMP this on up; :thumbup:

GoPro is charged and will do a ride video tonite when I get off work :D
I haven't forgotten to get it...just been dealing with Florida's wishy washy weather.

red300
July 22nd, 2013, 08:31 PM
My standard mount carbon fiber system and tuner shipped from florida today! I am in Canada though so I assume I wont see the parts for a week or two, I really wanna see more videos of your bike I cant wait to have this system. I also just ordered the complete Cortech super 2.0 luggage set up with the saddlebags, trunk bag and 12 liter tank bag, going to put some serious miles on this thing soon.

anacron
July 26th, 2013, 02:27 AM
My standard mount carbon fiber system and tuner shipped from florida today! I am in Canada though so I assume I wont see the parts for a week or two, I really wanna see more videos of your bike I cant wait to have this system. I also just ordered the complete Cortech super 2.0 luggage set up with the saddlebags, trunk bag and 12 liter tank bag, going to put some serious miles on this thing soon.

Could you do an installation summary for the standard mount. I'm woefully behind on acquiring tools and it'd be nice to know what I need to get the exhaust mounted.

Its awesome how good the standard mount, carbon sounds once you get up in the higher revs. More HP is just the icing.

red300
August 8th, 2013, 08:44 PM
Could you do an installation summary for the standard mount. I'm woefully behind on acquiring tools and it'd be nice to know what I need to get the exhaust mounted.

Its awesome how good the standard mount, carbon sounds once you get up in the higher revs. More HP is just the icing.

Installed it today forgot to take pics but its easy. You need 4 and 5 mm allen keys, 10, 12 and 14mm socket and or wrenches. The tuner is also a snap to install just lift the tank up and turn it sideways dont have to disconnect anything and plenty of room to hook things up. I went for a ride in the rain so couldnt go too fast but it will pick the front tire up when shifting from first to second and def pulls hard and aggresively. I can easily pull along in sixth at 3--4000 rpm and it has torque to hold and even accelerate, took it down the highway for 20 mins windy and rainy but held 125 kmh in top gear like nothing. I am surprised just how loud it is but it sounds deep and mean def noticed people looking in traffic and noticing me. I also may have sold the parts girl at my dealership on getting her own system as she fell in love with mine as soon as I rolled in! All in all I am 100% satisfied and have zero regrets waiting and going with area p. Great work and awesome quality everything was packed tight and wrapped well in the box. :thumbup:

I am running k&n panel filter with snorkel removed, 15t front sprocket and Kerry sent my tuner with map 5 pre-loaded seems solid so far, anyone know if theres a place to download more maps to test things out with?