View Full Version : Dragging... your boots?


Nemy
March 25th, 2009, 09:06 PM
So with warmer weather creeping in and the new toy I got this year, I've been slowly trying to test her limits and the limits of the (questionable) IRC tires.

But dragging my boots?! I always thought the pegs would be the first to touch ground. Isn't that what they're there for? Granted, they were a pair of the slightly bulky ICON chukkas and my feet were under the shifter preparing to upshift out of the turn. Just thought it was weird and kind of frustrating that it took a little chunk out of my new boots...

So is my riding/foot position where it's supposed to be?

kkim
March 25th, 2009, 09:12 PM
try riding on the balls of your feet when cornering.

sometimesido
March 25th, 2009, 09:14 PM
I think dragging the boots/pegs are little too low for the streets.
Or, if it was on a track, change your boots. ;)

SteveL
March 26th, 2009, 01:36 AM
Let us know if you manage to scrub off the hero bobbles (the molding bits on the edge of the tyre to the side wall)

Steve

Snake
March 26th, 2009, 03:48 AM
Let us know if you manage to scrub off the hero bobbles (the molding bits on the edge of the tyre to the side wall)

Steve

Now that would be some leaning.

Viper-Byte
March 26th, 2009, 04:05 AM
I never ride with my boot under the shifter while going around a corner (left hander anyway), as this can happen. You could go low enough that your boot will lever grip off the tyres and you could slide and not be able to recover and end up going down. That is just my :2cents: anyway.

HKr1
March 26th, 2009, 04:57 AM
Kinda hard to up-shift when your leaned over in a left hand corner. Thats why track bikes go to the reverse shift.
If your foot is up on the peg and your still dragging toe, thats pretty dam sweet :) Thats why the boots have toe sliders :thumbup:

Cali619
March 26th, 2009, 07:07 AM
I have accidentally hit my boot but it was taking a short constant left that whipped into a very tight decreasing radius going right. I dont think its good to drag boot lol I just had my right foot pointing out a little to much as I was changing from hanging of the left to the immediate right. Not much time for me to adjust like usual on the pegs

Nemy
March 26th, 2009, 08:48 AM
I never ride with my boot under the shifter while going around a corner (left hander anyway), as this can happen. You could go low enough that your boot will lever grip off the tyres and you could slide and not be able to recover and end up going down. That is just my :2cents: anyway.

ya good point, I never thought I would be anywhere close though. I'm going to look into adjusting the shifter higher too with the new boots - the toe portion is so bulky I was probably sitting with my toes angled down.

and I'll leave the hero bobbles for the track. :thumbup:

camaroz1985
March 26th, 2009, 09:02 AM
I'll leave the hero bobbles for the track. :thumbup:

Smart :D

Edit: Forgot the real reason I was intrigued by this thread. I was watching the Losail WSBK race last night and saw a couple times Spies dragging a toe. Looked like his foot slipped the one time.

Man that guy can ride, and is showing the world now. Its good to see an American succeeding in a higher form of motorsports (I'm not forgetting about Nicky).

Elbowz FTW :D

Broom
March 26th, 2009, 11:36 AM
Smart :D

Edit: Forgot the real reason I was intrigued by this thread. I was watching the Losail WSBK race last night and saw a couple times Spies dragging a toe. Looked like his foot slipped the one time.

Man that guy can ride, and is showing the world now. Its good to see an American succeeding in a higher form of motorsports (I'm not forgetting about Nicky).

Elbowz FTW :D

some of those guys are sporting elbow sliders now... i'll give you one guess why.

if you don't have the feelers on your pegs, then your boots will usually be touching before your pegs do. get some decent boots with toe sliders. the bike i was racing last year had my toes dragging all the time. sometimes i'd wear through a new set of toe sliders in one weekend even with my feet tucked up as far as i could on the pegs.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/396902788_d28315bd82.jpg

camaroz1985
March 26th, 2009, 11:48 AM
I know they were saying that Spies was one of the only WSBK riders that does wear the elbow sliders.

Broom
March 26th, 2009, 12:22 PM
Geoff May via Robert Redmond (http://robertredmond.com/blog/)

http://robertredmond.com/blog/media/images/elbows-1color.jpg (http://robertredmond.com/blog/2008/05/elbows-part-duex/)

camaroz1985
March 26th, 2009, 12:36 PM
What's he laying down for a nap?

Alex
March 26th, 2009, 02:00 PM
Before any of us try to do that on our Ninjettes, Geoff isn't only displaying some phenomenal skill there, he's also on some uber-sticky tires that frankly have almost nothing in common with what we're riding on other than being round and black. They are almost like superglue to the track, and go from brand new to completely done in 45 minutes. I still use DOT tires on the track as my pace doesn't warrant slicks yet, but even those trackday tires are much stickier than what is generally available for our ninjette rim sizes.

Nemy
March 26th, 2009, 03:58 PM
Geoff May via Robert Redmond (http://robertredmond.com/blog/)

http://robertredmond.com/blog/media/images/elbows-1color.jpg (http://robertredmond.com/blog/2008/05/elbows-part-duex/)

WOW! :eek:

Jiu Jitsu Player
March 26th, 2009, 04:13 PM
that's a killer photo. I dont even lean that much when Im on the couch...

P1NDLESK1N
March 26th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Hell, I've lowsided more upright than that!

miks
March 27th, 2009, 05:05 AM
Holy moly, looks like his foot is being squashed by the bike! Insane!

That picture intrigued me, so I google'd some pics, these guys are crazy!

http://image02.webshots.com/2/2/0/96/52020096WOQmLH_ph.jpg

Lurkable
March 27th, 2009, 11:43 AM
if you don't have the feelers on your pegs, then your boots will usually be touching before your pegs do.

I should probably know this but...."feeler." Is that what this thing is sticking off of the foot peg? Honestly I didn't know if that thing was supposed to be getting scraped or not, but I assumed that's what the rubber sleeve around it was for...

http://home.comcast.net/~fastexpand/fpf.jpg

Alex
March 27th, 2009, 11:51 AM
I should probably know this but...."feeler." Is that what this thing is sticking off of the foot peg?

:thumbup: Yup, that's the foot peg feeler. It's meant as an early warning for some pretty significant lean angle for the bike. On track, most people remove the peg feelers to give a little more lean angle, if they haven't already switched to rearsets, which can give even more lean angle.

If you're scraping the peg feelers on the street, you're carrying quite a bit of lean angle. You should be able to carry the same corner speed with less lean angle by getting off the bike a bit more.

rceezy
March 28th, 2009, 04:58 AM
Ben Spies is a great rider. Suzuki was stupid to not sign him on for 09 MotoGp. Now look at him dominating for YAMAHA!!! :D :D :D

mcteague
March 28th, 2009, 05:35 AM
I should probably know this but...."feeler." Is that what this thing is sticking off of the foot peg? Honestly I didn't know if that thing was supposed to be getting scraped or not, but I assumed that's what the rubber sleeve around it was for...



I took my "feelers" off. My pants were always snagging on them as I moved off from a stop.

Tim

komohana
March 28th, 2009, 02:21 PM
i got into the habit of keeping my foot on top of the shifter, only going under to shift, then right back on top, although my foot isn't always on the shifter as i tend to put the ball of my foot on the foot peg itself...:2cents:

H.I.D.
May 22nd, 2009, 02:52 PM
So with warmer weather creeping in and the new toy I got this year, I've been slowly trying to test her limits and the limits of the (questionable) IRC tires.

But dragging my boots?! I always thought the pegs would be the first to touch ground. Isn't that what they're there for? Granted, they were a pair of the slightly bulky ICON chukkas and my feet were under the shifter preparing to upshift out of the turn. Just thought it was weird and kind of frustrating that it took a little chunk out of my new boots...

So is my riding/foot position where it's supposed to be?

how do you feel on tose irc tires ?

H.I.D.
May 22nd, 2009, 02:55 PM
how do you feel on tose irc tires ?

have you changed your tirs yet? if so, what brand did you go to ?
i know that you can go up to a "150' on the rear without any
clearance issues. thanks. rob.

CC Cowboy
May 22nd, 2009, 03:21 PM
Ben Spies is a great rider. Suzuki was stupid to not sign him on for 09 MotoGp. Now look at him dominating for YAMAHA!!! :D :D :D

I just read today that Spies will probably move up to MotGP from WSB next year. Edwards moving down to WSB. A lot of talented young guys ready for MotoGP next year.

Alex
May 22nd, 2009, 05:06 PM
It's all speculation at this point. Nobody knows anything for sure until the ink dries on the contracts. The way WSBK is going for him now, Spies may not even want to move to GP in the near future.

smcbride11
May 22nd, 2009, 05:29 PM
It's all speculation at this point. Nobody knows anything for sure until the ink dries on the contracts. The way WSBK is going for him now, Spies may not even want to move to GP in the near future.

He's had some tough luck this year, though... Biaggi did what Biaggi does in Losail and welcomed him to WSBK - but then the running out of gas thing and the shifter rod breaking, both while leading races - that kind of stuff needs to be worked out or Nori's going to really REALLY run away with it.

Nemy
May 22nd, 2009, 10:33 PM
have you changed your tirs yet? if so, what brand did you go to ?
i know that you can go up to a "150' on the rear without any
clearance issues. thanks. rob.

I haven't swapped out yet. Too poor to swap out before they've worn out... Most likely I'll be going Dunlop or Bridgestone in the next couple of months, though. Might even be adventurous and try the Metzeler tourings :rolleyes:

and lol to the old thread hijack

H.I.D.
May 23rd, 2009, 04:26 AM
ooops ! new to the forum, now I know to stay on the Thread Topic.

CC Cowboy
May 23rd, 2009, 08:40 AM
It's all speculation at this point. Nobody knows anything for sure until the ink dries on the contracts. The way WSBK is going for him now, Spies may not even want to move to GP in the near future.

Let's really speculate. Did you see the picture of Rossi in the Ferrari? Ferrari could run a third car in (who knows what organization) next year if Ferrari, Renault, and who knows pulls out of F1.

It must be pure BS because Rossi has a motocycle helmet on while in the Ferrari and everone knows you can't wear a motorcycle helmet in a F1 car.

OK lets get even deeper. Rossi moves to Ferrari (rally, I mean really) and Spies takes Rossi's spot. That's why he changed from Suzuki to Yamaha this year in WSB.

Purspeed
May 23rd, 2009, 11:25 PM
Spies is incredibly talented. So is Mladdin. But, tomorrow is promise to no one.

Elfling
May 24th, 2009, 05:12 AM
Geoff May via Robert Redmond (http://robertredmond.com/blog/)

http://robertredmond.com/blog/media/images/elbows-1color.jpg (http://robertredmond.com/blog/2008/05/elbows-part-duex/)

Pics like that make me happy in the pants :cool:

Alex
May 24th, 2009, 11:11 AM
Pics like that make me happy in the pants :cool:

Posts like that make the rest of us happy in the pants. :eek: :p

Apex
May 24th, 2009, 12:42 PM
Pics like that make me happy in the pants :cool:
lol
:happy10:


I like this picture...
http://images.sportrider.com/tech/146_0603_01_z+traction_control+valentino_rossi.jpg

CC Cowboy
May 24th, 2009, 03:02 PM
Is he using his rear brake?

DerTeufel
May 24th, 2009, 03:47 PM
Nope, that is a full-on power slide. I submit my favorite vid.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/138420/moto_gp_animals/

CC Cowboy
May 25th, 2009, 07:16 AM
That guy must be good!

Mista Bob
May 25th, 2009, 07:21 AM
I've only ever dragged my boots once, quite surprised me as I always ride with my feet in the proper position.
Especially since I'm on a nice n tall dual sport. More motivation to start riding foot out style. :p

CC Cowboy
May 25th, 2009, 07:27 AM
Pics like that make me happy in the pants :cool:

Posts like that make the rest of us happy in your pants. :eek: :p

I don't understand!