kavo
April 10th, 2014, 07:04 PM
Whats the best AFR for power on these motors? I had a 250 and when dynoed it produced most power at high 13 (13.5+) to low 14:1 ratios.
I have an auto tune set up and wondering what the best ratio for power is
DaBlue1
April 10th, 2014, 08:15 PM
You may want to read this thread. https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showpost.php?p=266618&postcount=17
https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showpost.php?p=267279&postcount=28
Ryephile
April 10th, 2014, 08:17 PM
As a rule of thumb, peak torque is typically from 0.87 to 0.90 lambda. When talking in 100% gasoline speak where Stoich is 14.7:1, peak torque is usually 12.8 to 13.2:1. This of course depends on the combustion chamber shape, flame propagation speed, BSFC, VE, and a whole bunch of other factors.
Start with a 0.88 lambda target, and feel free to twiddle it a bit on the dyno to see where the sweet spot is at each programmable RPM cell in your Dynojet interface. Since you're tuning a naturally aspirated engine, it's unlikely you'll need to run any richer than 0.82 lambda or 12.0:1 AFR unless you're getting knock.
Good luck!
kavo
April 10th, 2014, 08:22 PM
You may want to read this thread. https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showpost.php?p=266618&postcount=17
https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showpost.php?p=267279&postcount=28
Yes I was looking more for real world experience such as the second post
DaBlue1
April 10th, 2014, 08:37 PM
Yes I was looking more for real world experience such as the second post
I just linked you to a couple of good single post. Here's the whole thing. Maybe it might be enough real world data for you.
https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?p=266618#post266618
Ryephile
April 10th, 2014, 08:40 PM
Remember to install your wideband sensor upstream of the catalytic converter if you're still running one or you won't get accurate O2 readings.
ninja250r81
April 14th, 2014, 04:06 AM
o2 is only half of the tuning(not really other factors involved), you need to look at changing ignition timing aswell.
If the stock ECU can change the pre-programmed timing settings, if not have to look into ignition control.
Changing "o2" cleans up the hills and valley's and corrects the AFR, and a power increase or loss could occur.