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tjkamper
May 15th, 2009, 08:50 AM
I'm looking at doing a fender chop, but I don't know how to wire a light for the license plate.

Has anyone done this with a light or is everyone riding arround illegal?

Thanks?

gizmogamez
May 15th, 2009, 10:55 AM
the lights are very eays. should just be 2 wires (a hot and a nuteral) any light you add when you do the chop will wire the same.
If you go with LED lights there might be a little more work if the light does not come with a resistor already installed.

Rynownd
May 15th, 2009, 11:30 AM
the lights are very eays. should just be 2 wires (a hot and a nuteral) any light you add when you do the chop will wire the same.
If you go with LED lights there might be a little more work if the light does not come with a resistor already installed.

I don't think resistors are going to be necessary since the light is meant to be illuminated all the time. The resistors are for turn signals only.

I agree otherwise. There is a two wire harness that plugs into the stock light. Just cut it off and find the hot and ground wires then just connect whichever light you choose.

tjkamper
May 15th, 2009, 12:03 PM
What lights would you recomend I get and where can I get them. Peferabbly from a chain store so I can get them this weekend instead of waiting on delivery.

Techno250
May 15th, 2009, 12:32 PM
According the Ninja 250R 2009 parts catalog (https://www.kawasakiepc.com/SystemSearch_Frames.cfm?QuickSearch=1&SearchFor=EX250J9FA&SearchBy=Model&cGroupID=&CFID=2860380&CFTOKEN=11774207), the standard bulb for the license frame is part 92069A. Don's Bulbs (http://www.donsbulbs.com/cgi-bin/r/b.pl/92069-1007~kawasaki.html) lists this as 92069-1007, 3.4W 14V incandescent type 158 bulb. So go look for a 158 equivalent at your local parts store, or order online. If you want to go LED, my favorite site is Super Bright LEDs, who have a drop-in 158 replacement (WLED Miniature Wedge Base Bulb) (http://www.superbrightleds.com/mini-wedge.html) in many colors. They have built-in diodes and current-limiting resistors (LEDs need a resistor not only to provide a load to flasher relays, but to keep from frying the LED).

Hope this helps!

EDIT: This assumes you're re-using parts of the fender or whatever. You could always go with a completely new frame with built-in LEDs or whatever and just mount it and hook up the two wires. :D

tjkamper
May 15th, 2009, 12:58 PM
If I do just order LED Bulbs, how to I secure them. I know how to run electical. I built my own home and have worked on countless cars. I just need to know how others have done this so I am not making it up as I go along.

Mo1981
May 15th, 2009, 03:52 PM
I did LED lighting in a round-about way. These are those crappy $15 windshield fluid lights from Pep Boys.

tjkamper
May 15th, 2009, 04:14 PM
I did LED lighting in a round-about way. These are those crappy $15 windshield fluid lights from Pep Boys.

Now that's what I'm talking about. Are those the lights that suposidly replace the wash fluid jets on the hood? Did you just drill a hole and then Epoxy them?

kkim
May 15th, 2009, 04:19 PM
Matt... I like that!! :thumbup:

simple and cheap... just like me. :D

Mo1981
May 15th, 2009, 05:09 PM
Yeah, it turned out way better than I expected. My sister's boyfriend liked it so much, I ended up doing his 250 also.
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xpander37
May 15th, 2009, 07:12 PM
nice set up Mo! nice and clean.... i just used one led to light up my plate... its pretty weak.... spotlighted pretty much hahah.... but it works.... seems as tho the brake light illuminates the plate pretty well ..... there was a cop behind me while cruising the twn... and he didnt stop me even tho cops here are known to be pricks=)


http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f29/xpander37/DSC00011.jpg

Cochese
May 16th, 2009, 12:26 AM
... there was a cop behind me while cruising the twn... and he didnt stop me even tho cops here are known to be pricks=) doing their jobs.


Fixed it for you.

TJ, my bikelitez kit came with a LED light if your interested...


http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/imzadi930/utf-8BSU1HMDAyMzUtMjAwOTA1MDctMTEwN.jpg

xpander37
May 16th, 2009, 02:33 AM
Fixed it for you.

haha no i meant pricks.... harassment and racial profiling... lol... if i didnt have my helmet on id be pulled over im sure hahah...

Alex
May 16th, 2009, 10:07 AM
:rolleyes:

Rynownd
May 16th, 2009, 10:36 AM
I like Matt's idea a lot! (Post #7)

But in searching ' LED license plate lights,' the second hit on google was this http://www.1tail.com/sa/c/LED_License_Plate_and_Replacement_Undertail_Lights.htm

There are also license plate covers that have LEDs in them as well. Such as: http://www.amazon.com/Illuminator-LED-License-Plate-Frame/dp/B001187HQU

Finally, if you follow the link to 'other products by Radiantz Hardcore lighting' you'll find plenty of overpriced crap that I like a little too much. Good company btw; got my rear signals from them.

Cochese
May 16th, 2009, 10:44 AM
haha no i meant pricks.... harassment and racial profiling... lol... if i didnt have my helmet on id be pulled over im sure hahah...

It sounds to me like their douchebag radar is perfectly tuned to me. "Racial profiling" is a convenience excuse for people to use when they get caught breaking the law.

"harassment" as you put it; nothing more than a police officer doing his job.

It is what it is now in this country. Change is coming alright.
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xpander37
May 16th, 2009, 12:23 PM
It sounds to me like their douchebag radar is perfectly tuned to me. "Racial profiling" is a convenience excuse for people to use when they get caught breaking the law.

"harassment" as you put it; nothing more than a police officer doing his job.

It is what it is now in this country. Change is coming alright.
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racial profiling, excellent way to give reason to find any excuse or even make up one for a pull over.... cops have said that i havent signaled for a turn (which i indeed did)....also got stopped because i was serving in a lane haha(which was absolutely a lie)...and always walked away with nothing, why??
having being pulled over for a tiny necklace with a cross pendant hanging on the rearview mirror not too long ago... then insulted for still being in school at the age of 29.... yes i guess that would be considered in his job description also hahaha
living in a small town where i am clearly a minority... things happen not all cops are saints thats for sure.... been here 9 years and not a single violation.... and intend to keep it that way...

ok back to topic.... lighting is pretty easy... there is a harness for the plate light... you can find pre made led lighting for autos(which most normally run on 12v) and use them to illuminate your plate..... cut off the harness from the original plate light and crimp or solder it to the new led wires and tada.... new plate light

B2FiNiTY
May 16th, 2009, 12:25 PM
The washer nozzle method looks very clean!!!

Cochese
May 16th, 2009, 12:37 PM
racial profiling, excellent way to give reason to find any excuse or even make up one for a pull over.... cops have said that i havent signaled for a turn (which i indeed did)....also got stopped because i was serving in a lane haha(which was absolutely a lie)...and always walked away with nothing, why??
having being pulled over for a tiny necklace with a cross pendant hanging on the rearview mirror not too long ago... then insulted for still being in school at the age of 29.... yes i guess that would be considered in his job description also hahaha
living in a small town where i am clearly a minority... things happen not all cops are saints thats for sure.... been here 9 years and not a single violation.... and intend to keep it that way...



Nope. There are plenty of reasons to pull people over. Every car, all day long. Pulling violators over for weaving (which I bet you were doing, even if you didn't notice) and minor equipment violations is a great tool that leads to bigger issues, like suspended or uninsured drivers and major warrants. How was Timothy McVeigh caught? Look the answer up... As it may surprise you.

If you aren't getting tickets in 9 years its because you aren't suspended, you don't have warrants and your vehicle is insured. I never claimed all cops were saints. They are like every other demographic... Good and bad are mixed in.

That said, your generalization that the cops in your small town are all racial profiling, harassing pricks is what I take exception to. The first folks to cry racial profiling are. Doing so because they don't take the time to understand the system and enjoy the convenient scape goat. I've come to expect though, however sad it is.


Stay safe
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xpander37
May 16th, 2009, 12:52 PM
how is someone who i do not even know is so sure of me and my actions? yes i like swerving along the roads to draw attention to myself and perhaps putting others in danger... thats me, you got me figured out.... this town when it comes to cops is a little BS.... perhaps having a gun drawn to my face in my own home because they thought there was an intruder got me a little sour.... but hey... at least he didnt shoot my brains out... i commend him for his super spider senses for saving me from my guest for which i was having a nice beer with lol

hey i dont mind them doing there jobs... its just when i run into insults, bad judgement, and making up lies...... it makes me love em that much more =)

Cochese
May 16th, 2009, 02:45 PM
how is someone who i do not even know is so sure of me and my actions?

Same reason every person I stop for weaving within their lane says almost the same thing to me every single time... "I was weaving? I didn't even realize!"

You ever used a cell phone and drove at the same time? Ever? Texts or phone calls. Thank about it... be honest. Ever?

If so, then you have weaved within your lane.

yes i like swerving along the roads to draw attention to myself and perhaps putting others in danger... thats me, you got me figured out....

I never claimed that I had you all figured out, although that doesn't seem to be the most daunting task on todays to-do list.


...this town when it comes to cops is a little BS....

That's your opinion. What matters is:

A) How it was formed in the first place.
B) how you pass your OPINION off as fact.

....perhaps having a gun drawn to my face in my own home because they thought there was an intruder got me a little sour.... but hey... at least he didnt shoot my brains out... i commend him for his super spider senses for saving me from my guest for which i was having a nice beer with lol...

I'm sure you and your guest had absolutely nothing to do with the police being called to your residence for an intruder. The police always walk into people's houses and menace them for no apparent reason. :rolleyes:

hey i dont mind them doing there jobs... its just when i run into insults, bad judgement, and making up lies...... it makes me love em that much more =)

I think your locale (Socialist republik of IL) has more to do with your encounters with lies, bad judgment and insults than anything else. If you feel you've been wronged by an individual officer, perhaps you should have done something about it then, like contacting his/her supervisor or filing a complaint, instead of insulting an entire profession anonymously (and ignorantly) on the internet?

All the best.

Buffalony
May 16th, 2009, 03:04 PM
OK. Stop it children

Back to topic

BTW: No cyclist should get pulled over due to swerving in the same lane :)

xpander37
May 16th, 2009, 03:18 PM
this can go on forever.... however you speak of all this as if your on the front lines.... living in this town for 9 years i see and hear plenty that goes on here... i am not the only one who lives here with these thoughts.... i used my experiences as examples is all... over all i think majority of cops are a joke... i find it humorous lol.... and yes they did step into my place with guns drawn... you know the reason why?.... because my front door wasnt locked and thought there was an intruder hahaha... pretty comical.... law enforcers at their finest!

yes i have maybe swerved in my time... but they should actually stop me while im in the act....

considered writing a complaint, yes..... but in a town like this with nothing for them to do.... i think ill pass on being a target

im very sorry i offended you and anyone else here with my stories....this is really gettin old... i never did say all cops around the world were pricks..... because that indeed would be ignorant of me.... what i originally posted was "and he didnt stop me even tho cops here are known to be pricks=)"

if you have anything else to add, just send a private lol... this thread took a spin in the wrong direction=)

Cochese
May 16th, 2009, 09:38 PM
this can go on forever.... however you speak of all this as if your on the front lines....

Unfortunately it probably could. The thing is, I am on the front lines. Been on the front lines for 5 years. Been shot at. Been stabbed. Seen stuff I wouldn't feel comfortable repeating here.

living in this town for 9 years i see and hear plenty that goes on here... i am not the only one who lives here with these thoughts.... i used my experiences as examples is all...

Just goes to show your not the only person in that town that has a problem generalizing then.

...over all i think majority of cops are a joke... i find it humorous lol....

You have a lot of growing up to do.


.... and yes they did step into my place with guns drawn... you know the reason why?.... because my front door wasnt locked and thought there was an intruder hahaha... pretty comical.... law enforcers at their finest!

Somebody called them to your house. The police don't walk around your neighborhood trying doors. There is a huge part of your story missing, which is evidentially an intentional omission, as it would bring light to why the police where there investigating an intruder in the first place, but I digress.


yes i have maybe swerved in my time... but they should actually stop me while im in the act....

You missed the idea behind my post about the weaving. The idea is, you did something to warrant a traffic contact each time you were stopped...

EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T NOTICE IT.

considered writing a complaint, yes..... but in a town like this with nothing for them to do.... i think ill pass on being a target

That's your problem then. Your only true recourse if you feel you were wronged during a police contact is to report it to their administration. You are not going to become a target. Not a target for enforcement, not a target for anything. We (the police) don't work that way. The repercussions for us would be far greater than what it would be worth to "harass" you.

im very sorry i offended you and anyone else here with my stories....this is really gettin old... i never did say all cops around the world were pricks..... because that indeed would be ignorant of me.... what i originally posted was "and he didnt stop me even tho cops here are known to be pricks=)"


You don't have to worry about offending me. What you should worry about is how you represent yourself. What other careers/professions/groups to you generalize about? How do you think it makes them feel?

I doubt your sorry since right before you apologized, you said..

...over all i think majority of cops are a joke... i find it humorous lol....

If we're all such a joke, then call 4-1-1 during your next emergency and ask for a direct number to the firemen. See if they'll help you with your theft report, your barking dog complaint, your ex-girlfriend sending you harassing text messages, some drunk weaving down the highway, et al.

if you have anything else to add, just send a private lol... this thread took a spin in the wrong direction=)

This thread has gotten a little off topic. Maybe Alex can split this into a new thread in off-topic.

There is however, absolutely nothing I feel the need to take to PMs. If you have a problem airing your thoughts on the subject, you never should have done so in the first place.

:thumbup:

xpander37
May 17th, 2009, 02:18 AM
looks as long as a DIY thread... impressive..but please dont expect me to read that.. as i said im over it... we all have our own opinions... lets leave it at that?

Cochese
May 17th, 2009, 02:21 AM
looks as long as a DIY thread... impressive..but please dont expect me to read that.. as i said im over it... we all have our own opinions... lets leave it at that?

Translation ~ "I give up." :rofl:


:thumbup:

Mo1981
May 17th, 2009, 02:00 PM
Now that's what I'm talking about. Are those the lights that suposidly replace the wash fluid jets on the hood? Did you just drill a hole and then Epoxy them?

They are actually threaded with a nut, so I just drilled a hole and screwed the nut on. All in all, it was a pretty easy job. I've been followed by a couple cops at nite and had no problems, as far as the lights are concerned.
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Army Aviator
May 18th, 2009, 02:15 PM
looks as long as a DIY thread... impressive..but please dont expect me to read that.. as i said im over it... we all have our own opinions... lets leave it at that?


Why... do you... keep... doing... this... with the... periods in... all of your posts... STOP IT!!!

Try typing a complete sentence, this period crap makes your posts look... retarded. :thumbup:

NJD022588
May 18th, 2009, 02:39 PM
This is an option:

http://www.xlsperformance.com/auctions/images/license_bolt_1.jpg

Alex
May 18th, 2009, 05:13 PM
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=10&pictureid=1524

:rotflmao:

xpander37
May 18th, 2009, 08:09 PM
Why... do you... keep... doing... this... with the... periods in... all of your posts... STOP IT!!!

Try typing a complete sentence, this period crap makes your posts look... retarded. :thumbup:

lol does it bug you that much?.... its just my thing.... grammar and spelling pftttt, its a forum... not an essay :D....

Buffalony
May 18th, 2009, 09:21 PM
What? Is this frickin english class now. Some people need to learn to keep certain opinions to themself. This is supposed to be a friendly environment/forum. Its why I use this ninjette forum specifically. Sure we get into some heated discussions around here!! But personal, off topic attacks like that shouldnt be tolerated.....


I'm for the periods.
While we do use smilies and acronyms up the arse on the net. Using periods like that is.....well..um.....hmmmm......understanding!. . because it can be another tool used to convey mood, tone or ones own manners while speaking. Smiles and acronyms are not in the english dictionary either.
If Tony feels he has to use periods to express himself properly in a forum environment...... He should.

Tony, I understand what you were sayin about the cops being pricks. A softer way to say that for the LEOs around here would be "Picky".

On the other hand....It doesnt look like your plate would be legible from the distance required in my area which is 30ft. I have two plate lights on mine like NJD022588's pic, and they barely makes the cut.

tc3jg
May 28th, 2009, 01:49 AM
I used two windshield washer sprayer LED lights that you see people putting on their tuner cars. this worked out great because of the location of my plate.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/tc3jg/DSC00824.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/tc3jg/IMAG0059.jpg

simply wired them right to where the stock ones went

B2FiNiTY
May 28th, 2009, 10:26 PM
http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/yhst-38432223971026_2057_50975568

im thinking about getting something like this.

CANTFUNCTION
May 28th, 2009, 11:23 PM
http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/yhst-38432223971026_2057_50975568

im thinking about getting something like this.

I have one like that but it is black. Looks clean and its bright. The light that came with the Targa kit died after a month.

hzrnbgy
May 28th, 2009, 11:57 PM
guys, you might want to check this out

superbrightleds (http://www.superbrightleds.com/mini_tubes.htm)

look for the LED Accent Light Modules ALM-x3

$6 a pop, they have in green, blue, white UV, etc. its completely weatherproof and suitable for automobile applications. im waiting for one on the mail.

they also have 1157 dual power tail lights in there. get the 5 SMD LEDs one.

Rocketman
May 29th, 2009, 06:59 PM
guys, you might want to check this out

superbrightleds (http://www.superbrightleds.com/mini_tubes.htm)

look for the LED Accent Light Modules ALM-x3

$6 a pop, they have in green, blue, white UV, etc. its completely weatherproof and suitable for automobile applications. im waiting for one on the mail.

they also have 1157 dual power tail lights in there. get the 5 SMD LEDs one.

Good find.

Buffalony
May 30th, 2009, 08:09 AM
Awesome options guys. I like the washer nozzles. lol great ingenuity. I have a couple of green ones lying around havent figured out what to use them for with out looking too ricey/azn :)

That led site is pretty good. bookmarked

tinng321
June 2nd, 2009, 07:05 PM
guys, you might want to check this out

superbrightleds (http://www.superbrightleds.com/mini_tubes.htm)

look for the LED Accent Light Modules ALM-x3

$6 a pop, they have in green, blue, white UV, etc. its completely weatherproof and suitable for automobile applications. im waiting for one on the mail.

they also have 1157 dual power tail lights in there. get the 5 SMD LEDs one.

I bought my lights for my car from them. I changed out all 19 bulbs in the instrument panel to blue led.
Cheap plus a flat $5 shipping.:thumbup:

Buffalony
June 3rd, 2009, 02:36 PM
So has anyone here done the ninjettes gauge lights yet?

xpander37
June 5th, 2009, 12:12 AM
I bought my lights for my car from them. I changed out all 19 bulbs in the instrument panel to blue led.
Cheap plus a flat $5 shipping.:thumbup:

Lets see some pictures of what you did to the instrument panel:)

tc3jg
June 5th, 2009, 12:58 AM
I did LED lighting in a round-about way. These are those crappy $15 windshield fluid lights from Pep Boys.

lol did the same thing
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/tc3jg/DSC00840.jpg

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm22/tc3jg/IMAG0060.jpg

brianhilker
May 17th, 2010, 09:45 AM
I bought a carbon look fender eliminator from Matt (sportisimoto-usa.com) and removed the fender from the tail light surround piece. I installed a targa license plate with integrated turn signals and installed led plate lights. Perfectly visible from behind and legal as per a police officer I showed it to.

7123 7124 7125 7126

adouglas
May 17th, 2010, 10:37 AM
Hmmm.. take another pic right after you've ridden it through a puddle.

Bet that plate doesn't stay visible for long in the real world.

brianhilker
May 17th, 2010, 01:46 PM
Hmmm.. take another pic right after you've ridden it through a puddle.

Bet that plate doesn't stay visible for long in the real world.

Yeah gonna need to give er a good cleanin when I do that
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