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bogdanb
June 27th, 2009, 07:41 AM
Since most of the members are from the United States, I would like to ask you friends few words about this legendary car:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Ford_Mustang_Cabrio_1966.JPG/800px-


Is it easy to be found ( in U.S. of course ) Ford Mustang model not later than 1970 and how much is going to cost for a car in good condition.
The one at the picture is '66, let say simple - I would like to have one of these. :cool:

noche_caliente
June 27th, 2009, 07:46 AM
here are 394 of them for sale :) gotta love e-bay

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/items/Cars-Trucks__ford-mustang?_catref=1&_dmpt=US_Cars_Trucks&_mqf=0&_qfkw=1&_sacat=6001&_trksid=p4506.c0.m273&_myi=1965-1970&_fpos=24073&_lsbx=0&_fspt=0&_flso=0&Make=Ford&Model=Mustang

noche_caliente
June 27th, 2009, 07:50 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/67-Mustang_W0QQitemZ280361951558QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4146dfe1 46&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1308

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-MUSTANG-CONV-GT-OPTIONS-302-PS-PWR-DISC-AIR-COND_W0QQitemZ180374029689QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item29ff214579&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318

backinthesaddleagain
June 27th, 2009, 07:55 AM
had 69 mach 1 351W, 2v. uncle bought it brand new in 69. sold it a few years ago. nice car for sure

backinthesaddleagain
June 27th, 2009, 07:56 AM
modded it with 4v holley , aluminum intake, headers, and mild cam.

bogdanb
June 27th, 2009, 07:58 AM
had 69 mach 1 351W, 2v. uncle bought it brand new in 69. sold it a few years ago. nice car for sure

Tell me about the mpg? :cool:

bogdanb
June 27th, 2009, 08:02 AM
Have a look at this one http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!!qPN8KQCG0~$(KGrHgoH-D!EjlLl0oH(BKCDIcCfjw~~_27.JPG

It is 14 500 Euro , and it is in Europe

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDetails.html?lang=en&id=41936271&pageNumber=5&scopeId=C&sortOption.sortBy=price.consumerGrossEuro&sortOption.sortOrder=ASCENDING&makeModelVariant1.makeId=9000&makeModelVariant1.modelId=30&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&vehicleCategory=Car&segment=Car&minFirstRegistrationDate=1965-01-01&maxFirstRegistrationDate=1975-12-31&siteId=GERMANY&negativeFeatures=EXPORT&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&export=NO_EXPORT&customerIdsAsString=&tabNumber=2

DerTeufel
June 27th, 2009, 08:11 AM
Tell me about the mpg? :cool:

My friend, miles per gallon with these old muscle cars was deplorable..especially if you had a v-8 powered car. The inline 6 cylinders were not bad, for the most part. You can expect 7-10mpg with the v-8, slightly higher with the inline 6. You don't buy a classic car for the fuel economy.

bogdanb
June 27th, 2009, 08:18 AM
My friend, miles per gallon with these old muscle cars was deplorable..especially if you had a v-8 powered car. The inline 6 cylinders were not bad, for the most part. You can expect 7-10mpg with the v-8, slightly higher with the inline 6. You don't buy a classic car for the fuel economy.

I know ...Thank you . That is way I left a smile at the end of the sentence.

almost40
June 27th, 2009, 09:18 AM
alot depends on options and if its an original straight car. My dad has 2 of them both convertables a 64 1/2 and a 68. The 64 1/4 is all original and rubbed with a diaper and he wouldnt sell it ever. 289 hi-perf, Pony interior. automatic. Hasnt seen sun since I drove it in my homecoming parade in high school. (sun fades the factory original paint). The 68 was a project car that got me into wrench turning. Funny how my dad is a ford guy and taught me how to work on cars on a ford no less. I have only owned Chevys. Cause there better lol

backinthesaddleagain
June 27th, 2009, 04:20 PM
Tell me about the mpg? :cool:


no idea. Back in high school and college would put $5 or $10 dollars in a drive a couple days.
much better i am sure than the big blocks (428)

miks
June 28th, 2009, 02:26 AM
These are beautiful cars, fell in love with them after watching 'Tokyo Drift' :D

tinng321
June 29th, 2009, 06:41 AM
Mustang is an American Icon.
It's the only muscle car without a production break, which means it has been in production every year since it was introduced back in 1964. I know what you're thinking.... and no... Corvertte was not considered a muscle car. I think the Corvette holds the longest production period from 53-present. Believe it or not, reliability rating is very good on the Mustang.

bogdanb
June 29th, 2009, 12:02 PM
alot depends on options and if its an original straight car. My dad has 2 of them both convertables a 64 1/2 and a 68. The 64 1/4 is all original and rubbed with a diaper and he wouldnt sell it ever. 289 hi-perf, Pony interior. automatic. Hasnt seen sun since I drove it in my homecoming parade in high school. (sun fades the factory original paint). The 68 was a project car that got me into wrench turning. Funny how my dad is a ford guy and taught me how to work on cars on a ford no less. I have only owned Chevys. Cause there better lol

I know that the price depends of how much is the car close to the original. I am much more interested of the outlook. So I will try to find one, close to the original.
When I was a kid ( a long time ago ) my Dad use to brought me to American movies ... So there I noticed Ford Mustang for a first time. Steve McQueen was riding one, as far as I can remember. In those years Bulgaria was ruled by the Communists, so it was impossible for us to see American Car. Except the U.S. ambassador's limo, who used to live in the neighborhood.:cool:
American car are rare even today, allthough I have a friend who owns 10 or 12.

camaroz1985
June 29th, 2009, 01:03 PM
Mustang is an American Icon.
It's the only muscle car without a production break, which means it has been in production every year since it was introduced back in 1964. I know what you're thinking.... and no... Corvertte was not considered a muscle car. I think the Corvette holds the longest production period from 53-present. Believe it or not, reliability rating is very good on the Mustang.

Completely unbiased opinion right? ;)

tinng321
June 30th, 2009, 05:11 AM
Completely unbiased opinion right? ;)

Yes sir.
I see that you own a camaro.
They are great cars. Fast but not so good looking IMO. My bro's a chevy guy and he has owned 2 in the past and they seem to break down all the time. I remember him fixing this or that on every weekend.:) There's a reason why mustang sale is still strong. :)

camaroz1985
June 30th, 2009, 06:28 AM
Girls will continue to buy enough V-6 Mustangs to keep the sales going. Historically the Mustang has been the sales leader and the Camaro has edged it out in performance, but we can go back and forth about this all day long, and it won't help bogdan.

tinng321
June 30th, 2009, 06:35 AM
Girls will continue to buy enough V-6 Mustangs to keep the sales going. Historically the Mustang has been the sales leader and the Camaro has edged it out in performance, but we can go back and forth about this all day long, and it won't help bogdan.

:thumbup: I agreed that Camaro has the power for most of the years until the 03-04 terminator was introduced. I guess it's all down to preference and brand loyalty. :)
I have to admit that one of my dream cars is a 69 camaro ss.
I have 1 at work. 1/24 diecast.:)

tinng321
June 30th, 2009, 06:45 AM
Bogdan,
If you really like mustang you should look into our market and try to have it ship there.
I personally like the '69 Boss 429.
http://www.mustang-mania.com/telecharger/fonds/pict/69BOSS429.jpg

bogdanb
June 30th, 2009, 08:13 AM
@tinng321 thank you.

Mean while a friend of mine offers me 2 cars for 3000 USD.
Chevrolet Impala '66 convertible ( w/o engine )

http://picbg.net/u/31210/23340/261126.jpg

plus another one ( hard top ) with engine. So eventually I can make one, with enough time and money to spend.
Do you think that it is a good deal?

I know it is not a Ford Mustang, but a least it would be American , convertible, red car.

tinng321
June 30th, 2009, 09:25 AM
That's a great deal.
Do you know what engine is has under the hood?
For that generation (65-70) GM offered 8 different engines.
The 409 cu in was discontinued in '65 and was replaced by 396.
So that '66 doesn't have the 409 for sure.
From 61-69 they also offered the SS (Super Sport) perfomance package.
It would be costly to restore.
Since American cars are rare there You would have a hard time finding parts. Therefore, you will
have to import them from the US. Shipping will probably kill you due to the weight.
Any more pics on the 2 '66?

There are better cars out there than the mustang.
For that era, I would love to have the '67 Corvette 427 Roadster. Next choice would be a '69 Boss 429, then the '69 Camaro Z28 with the ZL-1 engine.

almost40
June 30th, 2009, 09:44 AM
Its a good deal but be prepared to spend lots and lots and lots of money to restore just one of them. My dad spent over $12,000 to fully restore his 68 and that was 20 years ago. I can only imagine how hard it is to get good parts outside of the USA.

bogdanb
June 30th, 2009, 10:37 AM
Now here are some pics of the '65 Chevy Impala. Please, don't laugh, although i did. :D
Starting with the best one.

http://media.snimka.bg/3505/013264513.jpg

A look to the rear.

http://media.snimka.bg/3505/013264518.jpg

Looking of that I started to think, that is not a good idea.

http://media.snimka.bg/3505/013264515.jpg

And finally my friends ( in case you can not recognize it ) it's the engine.

http://media.snimka.bg/3505/013264512.jpg

EDIT : Don't get the wrong impression - this car is to use the engine for the convertible.

tinng321
June 30th, 2009, 10:47 AM
That '65 is an Impala Caprice. It was reintroduced in '66 as a Chevy Caprice without the impala badge. The engine looks really clean. What's the displacement?

bogdanb
June 30th, 2009, 11:01 AM
That '65 is an Impala Caprice. It was reintroduced in '66 as a Chevy Caprice without the impala badge. The engine looks really clean. What's the displacement?

About 4 liters ( the owner is not sure ) V 8

almost40
June 30th, 2009, 11:04 AM
283 if im not mistaken. Thats what it looks like anyway.

bogdanb
June 30th, 2009, 11:08 AM
283 if im not mistaken. Thats what it looks like anyway.

Yes, most probably 283 cu in ( 4,6 L ) Turbo Fire V 8

TnNinjaGirl
June 30th, 2009, 12:00 PM
These are beautiful cars, fell in love with them after watching 'Tokyo Drift' :D

Ouch. lol

Also, for a good parts source check out Year One. They've got pretty much everything. Whether or not you buy from them you can research the products they have.

tinng321
June 30th, 2009, 01:32 PM
Also check out Latemodelrestoration.com and Jcwhitney.com for parts.

VeX
July 5th, 2009, 03:29 PM
Shouldn't it be the "Ford Mustang 1964-1/2 - 1970" Thread? :p And why the cutoff on 1970 instead of 1973?

almost40
July 5th, 2009, 03:32 PM
Who knows the difference between a 64 1/2 and a 65???
I do, but Im curious to see if Im the only one.

Sound Wave
July 5th, 2009, 04:44 PM
And why the cutoff on 1970 instead of 1973?
i agree that the last worthwhile year for a classic mustang was 1970.

71-73 was the beginning of the low period for the mustang, imo. those things were just too big and unpopular. then they tried to go the opposite way and made the mustang 2.

backinthesaddleagain
July 6th, 2009, 07:02 AM
i agree that the last worthwhile year for a classic mustang was 1970.

71-73 was the beginning of the low period for the mustang, imo. those things were just too big and unpopular. then they tried to go the opposite way and made the mustang 2.

the only good thing about the mustang 2 (boredom zero) (that was the commercial) was Farrah driving one in Charlies Angels.

backinthesaddleagain
July 6th, 2009, 07:03 AM
Who knows the difference between a 64 1/2 and a 65???
I do, but Im curious to see if Im the only one.

wow, i knew this at one time. and not to cheat by googling it, all i can think of was the v8 went from 260 to 289??

almost40
July 6th, 2009, 07:53 AM
Nope, you could get a 289 in the 64 1/2.
guess i got me a trivial pursit question ehhh?

emt250
July 9th, 2009, 02:02 AM
There are a ton of mustangs in the U.S., all in different conditions. I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find one for a reasonable price...although I have no idea how much it would cost to ship to Bulgaria.

If you choose to restore one, rather than buy one already "fixed up", be prepared to put a lot of blood, sweat, tears and money into it. I've been working on my '67 mustang for a while with my Dad and it all just keeps on adding up. It is a lot of fun though. :D

nate-bama
July 10th, 2009, 01:51 PM
Who knows the difference between a 64 1/2 and a 65???
I do, but Im curious to see if Im the only one.

was it the brake lights?

backinthesaddleagain
July 10th, 2009, 01:53 PM
Nope, you could get a 289 in the 64 1/2.
guess i got me a trivial pursit question ehhh?

hmmm, guess i am clueless on this one.

Sound Wave
July 10th, 2009, 03:19 PM
Nope, you could get a 289 in the 64 1/2.
guess i got me a trivial pursit question ehhh?

there is a whole long list of differences. i don't know them all.

i know a whole bunch of interior stuff is different. a whole bunch of exterior stuff is different. a bunch of engine stuff is different. lol.

almost40
July 10th, 2009, 03:27 PM
All right Ill end it for you. The only difference was that the 64 1/2 had 4 lug rims and axles and 65 had 5 lug other than that all parts are interchangeable as original. so if someone tells you they have an original 64 1/2 count the lugs thats the only way to tell.

elars
July 13th, 2009, 11:58 AM
The one at the picture is '66

That looks an awful lot like a '69 for being a '66. From introduction to 68 they had single headlights up front, starting '69 they got the dual headlight look. No one caught that?

I grew up in the back seat of a dark blue '69 convertible with the 289, and on the back seat of a 1974 Harley XLCH swapped from an 800cc to 1000cc with straight pipes. That was the car I learned to drive in and the motorcycle I learned to ride on, hahahaha. They've both been sold since :(

bogdanb
July 13th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Shouldn't it be the "Ford Mustang 1964-1/2 - 1970" Thread? :p And why the cutoff on 1970 instead of 1973?

:cool:

Sound Wave
July 13th, 2009, 03:19 PM
That looks an awful lot like a '69 for being a '66. From introduction to 68 they had single headlights up front, starting '69 they got the dual headlight look. No one caught that?


what are you talking about? are you saying that the picture is of a 69? :confused: that is definitely a 66.

elars
July 14th, 2009, 07:19 AM
what are you talking about? are you saying that the picture is of a 69? :confused: that is definitely a 66.

aww nuts, you're right, sorry. It's a 66 GT. Only the GT's came with the four light set-up until 69.

bogdanb
July 14th, 2009, 09:15 AM
I have to admit - I am not competent about the differences between Mustangs generations. I took the picture from Wikipedia. I have seen these car in movies and "Machbox". :) Remeber, I grew up behind the "iron curtain".
While you and your parents enjoied Mustang cars, look the Soviet analog for car.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/M408-1968.jpg/250px-M408-1968.jpg

inline-4, OHV, 1358 cc, 50 hp (37 kW) @ 4750 rpm, 7:1 compression rate

Sound Wave
July 14th, 2009, 09:26 AM
aww nuts, you're right, sorry. It's a 66 GT. Only the GT's came with the four light set-up until 69.

no biggie. actually, that is a non-gt with possibly a gt package which could be installed by the dealer or he put the gt grille on aftermarket. the giveaway is that he has the running pony on the side. gt's had a shield saying "gt" on it. also, it has the fake scoop behind the door. the gt's didn't have that or the lower trim piece running along the bottom either.

elars
July 14th, 2009, 01:16 PM
no biggie. actually, that is a non-gt with possibly a gt package which could be installed by the dealer or he put the gt grille on aftermarket. the giveaway is that he has the running pony on the side. gt's had a shield saying "gt" on it. also, it has the fake scoop behind the door. the gt's didn't have that or the lower trim piece running along the bottom either.

No wonder my dad got the '69 ;)

It was a good car. I like the car all the way into the 80's. It was plain, but with a little flair here and there. We also had an 84 convertible which I believe was an LX and I think they guy we bought it from (friend of my dad's) swapped in a 5.0. That car was fun. White car, red interior, white top, good stereo system with CD player, great for just going driving and sliding through your turns.