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b_eastep July 5th, 2009, 12:31 PM anyone do a HID conversion on their pre 08 250? iv done it on my 07 Z1000 and the diff is literally night and day. would love to do the same to my gf 250 but of course it is a single bulb system. just wondering if any of you guys have any experience with a single bulb conversion?
Verus Cidere July 5th, 2009, 01:16 PM I've been wondering about the same thing... We had a thread talk about this before, but it kinda fizzled out! Anybody have any new info?
Neema12 July 7th, 2009, 02:34 PM I offer nothing to this thread other than I am also extremely interested in a HID conversion and would love to hear more about the subject. :thumbup:
Snake July 7th, 2009, 02:35 PM Looks like we need some help from Alex or KKim. Help please!!!!!
Grn99Kawi July 7th, 2009, 02:42 PM I did an HID retrofit on my 99 Mustang.. I know that the halogen reflector and lenses arent designed with HID in mind.. and there are a lot of people out there that bash plug and play kits.. but I bought the 5000k kit (white light not the ricer blue or ACK! purple). It is so much better than the stock halogens...
I am hesitant to put it on a bike... HIDs do run cooler than halogens, draw less power and last longer.. but you will have to mount the ballast (1) and run the wiring to the battery and the stock wiring.
Up to you... I'm just not sold on the HID on a bike thing... then again I ride during the day... never at night yet... and I run high beams daytime anyway.
kkim July 7th, 2009, 03:26 PM I'm a strong supporter of aftermarket HID kits in vehicles because I drive/ride a deserted canyon road at all hours of the day.
My experience prior to a month ago were with vehicles that required a separate bulb for each the low and high lights. For me the difference was astounding and I would not hesitate to recommend a switch to HIDs when the bulbs were separate.
Last month, I installed HIDs into a car that has a dual filament bulb much like the pregens have. I was excited to be putting improved lighting into the car and ordered a bi-xenon kit for dual filament bulbs.
What I found was this... the light scatter was horrible for the low lights, when I switch to highlights, the highlight would not raise enough to illuminate far enough down the road. If I adjusted for decent high light coverage, the low lights would blind oncoming traffic from being aimed too high.
I now have the lights readjusted so the low lights are at a decent level so to not blind oncoming traffic, but I'm living with less than desirable high light performance.
My plan is to take the HID kit back out and just run 55/100watt halogen bulbs instead.
I do feel the reflector housing has a lot to do with the performance deficiencies I'm experiencing, so the reflector housing in the pregens may be a better match for the HID kits than in the Honda FIT I'm working with. My suggestion is for someone to try it and find out. :)
noche_caliente July 7th, 2009, 06:07 PM and he's willing to ship you his kit if you pay for shipping, right Kelly? ;)
kkim July 7th, 2009, 06:08 PM wouldn't work... different bulbs. :p
Verus Cidere July 8th, 2009, 12:04 AM Any possibility of making a custom reflector housing for it? I mean, sorta like an aftermarket piece of reflective plastic that you can install instead of the original? Might make the bike look a bit more sporty (pregens do have a bit of a problem there on the front end) and would allow for HIDs....? Just a thought. :rolleyes:
b_eastep July 8th, 2009, 12:42 PM I did an HID retrofit on my 99 Mustang.. I know that the halogen reflector and lenses arent designed with HID in mind.. and there are a lot of people out there that bash plug and play kits.. but I bought the 5000k kit (white light not the ricer blue or ACK! purple). It is so much better than the stock halogens...
I am hesitant to put it on a bike... HIDs do run cooler than halogens, draw less power and last longer.. but you will have to mount the ballast (1) and run the wiring to the battery and the stock wiring.
Up to you... I'm just not sold on the HID on a bike thing... then again I ride during the day... never at night yet... and I run high beams daytime anyway.
the ballasts on these things are tiny now. the only wiring you have is unplug your bulb and use those wires for the hot and ground on your ballast.
Grn99Kawi July 8th, 2009, 12:54 PM Yes... but they are still somewhat large.. the ones on my Mustang are maybe 4x3inches maybe half inch tall.. even the slim ballasts arent much smaller.. there isnt much room for them on a bike, but of course it can be done. you need hot and ground and then plug into the stock wiring.. like I said it can and has been done... I have the bixenon... it moves the bulb up and down to make the 'high' beams go on.. I would love to hear about it on a pregen..
noche_caliente July 8th, 2009, 01:13 PM Adam - the ballasts on the kit I got from china were not a problem at all - you can see it really well in this pic:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_V-U-OR3ze94/Sk0FR5EHmBI/AAAAAAAABw8/UYEcZEF7ViM/s800/IMG_0464-1.JPG
no larger than a 3x5 index card and maybe an inch or so thick - I used the mounting hardware that was included with the kit and attached it to the screw used to hold the headlight into the fairing - no problems with clearance at all
Grn99Kawi July 8th, 2009, 01:31 PM Kim,
Good to know! Do you find that the HID setup is better for your visibility? I mean both to see and to be seen?
noche_caliente July 8th, 2009, 02:08 PM I've only had them on for a week, so it is hard to say... I haven't had as many idiots pulling out in front of me... I do try to limit night riding due to deer, so it will probably be a while before I have an opinion there...
ASecretNinja July 11th, 2009, 10:05 PM I just put an HiD bulb onto my '95. I got the kit from Lightning Industries
http://www.lightningindustries.com/hid_kits.html
and its literally plug and play. No messing with wires or anything. You just replace the bulb with the HiD, and then plug the kit 3-prong adapter into the OEM harness, and you are good to go. I used industrial velcro to mount my ballast and a little bit of duct tape to tame some of the wires. I'll try to post some pictures tomorrow night.
Kit was only $50 too.
kkim July 11th, 2009, 11:25 PM I just put an HiD bulb onto my '95. I got the kit from Lightning Industries
http://www.lightningindustries.com/hid_kits.html
and its literally plug and play. No messing with wires or anything. You just replace the bulb with the HiD, and then plug the kit 3-prong adapter into the OEM harness, and you are good to go. I used industrial velcro to mount my ballast and a little bit of duct tape to tame some of the wires. I'll try to post some pictures tomorrow night.
Kit was only $50 too.
cool! how much difference does it make from the stock lighting?
Snake July 12th, 2009, 04:28 AM Thanks ASecretNinja thats just what we were looking for a simple plug and play instalation.
b_eastep July 12th, 2009, 06:48 AM so now you have lost your ability to have both hi and low beam? or did you order a bi-xenon kit?
Rayme July 12th, 2009, 08:32 AM Any possibility of making a custom reflector housing for it? I mean, sorta like an aftermarket piece of reflective plastic that you can install instead of the original? Might make the bike look a bit more sporty (pregens do have a bit of a problem there on the front end) and would allow for HIDs....? Just a thought. :rolleyes:
You're describig a HID retrofit which alot of people do. They take a projector from say, a honda S2000 or acura TSX and bolt them inside the reflector. The results, if executed properly, is proper HID lighting which is times better than cheap kits.
I actually made a small HOW TO for retro-fitting projectors.. In part cause I made one and really hate P&P Kits. Another advantage of retrofitting projectors is that if you use bi-xenon projectors(like from an Acura TL or Infiniti FX34/45, you end up with 2 low beam and 2 high beam without blinding incoming traffic and TERRIFIC night vision.
http://www.pyxismedia.com/celica/hid/projectors_retro.gif
http://www.pyxismedia.com/celica/hid/hid2/left_night.jpg
http://hidtech.com/projects/01500.jpg
http://www.boomspeed.com/fnananon/retrofitfs.jpg
Perfect light cut-off and great even lighting.
http://www.pyxismedia.com/celica/hid/hid2/cutoff2.jpg
ASecretNinja July 12th, 2009, 11:23 AM cool! how much difference does it make from the stock lighting?
Low beam is night and day difference. As you can see on their website, they offer the White, Blue/White, or Blue color, and I went with the Blue/White. Super bright and looks great. As far as the high beam:
so now you have lost your ability to have both hi and low beam? or did you order a bi-xenon kit?
The guy who sold it to me from the website (his name is Tim) threw in a halogen highbeam bulb. I literally just installed it and haven't been for a proper night ride so I haven't compared high beams, but from what I could tell in the garage and parking lot the high beam is pretty similar to stock.
I will be posting pictures tonight after dark (west coast time).
Snake July 12th, 2009, 11:34 AM Can you explain the halogen highbeam bulb? Does that mean you have two bulb in the housing?
ASecretNinja July 12th, 2009, 11:52 AM Can you explain the halogen highbeam bulb? Does that mean you have two bulb in the housing?
Yea they are stacked vertically one on top of the other, connected to the same base plate.
b_eastep July 12th, 2009, 05:11 PM please keep us posted on this. iv seen those for sale on ebay and just cant make myself believe that they can throw a very useful light since one bulb has to be completely out of the center of the reflector. but hay....i hope im wrong.
Rayme July 12th, 2009, 05:20 PM please keep us posted on this. iv seen those for sale on ebay and just cant make myself believe that they can throw a very useful light since one bulb has to be completely out of the center of the reflector. but hay....i hope im wrong.
FYI, the ripple on the front of the pregen ninja is what create the beam pattern not the bulbs, if you really want to know if those kits will work..somebody will have to try it, we can speculate all day long but in this case here somebody have to try it.
kkim July 12th, 2009, 05:23 PM um, no speculation needed... ASecretNinja has one on his bike. :)
Rayme July 12th, 2009, 05:35 PM um, no speculation needed... ASecretNinja has one on his bike. :)
I'm eager to see the shots, I'm totally not sold on those things
https://www.hidlook.com/catalog/images/hh.jpg :D
kkim July 12th, 2009, 08:48 PM I'd like to see them, too. :)
ASecretNinja July 12th, 2009, 09:37 PM So it finally got dark. I went for a little test ride before I took the pictures, as the pics don't give you the exact detail.
The upside of the kit is that the HID is incredibly bright. I didn't feel like switching out my dark smore visor, and I was able to ride with it down most of the time--something I could rarely do with the stock halogen. I live in a highly developed suburban area of southern california, which means there are street lights EVERYWHERE. I realize this is not the norm in most of the rest of the country, as I lived in Indiana for 4 years during college--and made two full round trips in my truck between CA and IN during those 4 years. I've seen more of this damn country than I care to lol.
It's kind of weird having a halogen hi-beam because it's not even close to being as bright as the HID. I honestly don't think I'll ever use my hi-beam again the HID is so bright.
Now to the pics:
This is the darkest area close to me. There is a stretch of street with zero street lights, but I didn't feel like riding that far sorry:p. Anyways this was taken on a pretty decent down hill slope, hence the spread of the beam. I also took one with the hi-beam, but it didn't come out very well. If you really want it to compare, I will post it.
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/Cbrandom1121/HID1.jpg
Now the standard wall pictures that I seem to see on every HID website:
HID
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/Cbrandom1121/HID2.jpg
Hi-beam
http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/tt209/Cbrandom1121/hi-beam.jpg
Notice the intensity of the HID--the white literally washes out of the picture of the cinder block wall. The hi-beam hits the wall higher, but unless you driving directly into a wall, it doesn't seem to be much of a benefit.
My overall conclusion is that the HID in this kit is incredible. However the hi-beam may be a little lacking. Don't get me wrong I don't have any regrets and I'm completely happy with it. Anyways, I hope this was helpful for you guys. Let me know if you have any other questions.
kkim July 12th, 2009, 09:45 PM Is the high beam as effective as the high beam was with the original bulb?
ASecretNinja July 12th, 2009, 10:52 PM Is the high beam as effective as the high beam was with the original bulb?
I honestly can't say. The HID makes it look so weak in comparison, that I feel it may be subconsciously influencing my opinion. Also since it's so highly developed in my area and thus are so many street lights, i rarely needed to use the hi-beam before. I feel like the HID will nearly completely eliminate my need to use the hi-beam.
Rayme July 13th, 2009, 03:57 AM You're going to get high beamed for sure with that.
ASecretNinja July 13th, 2009, 12:44 PM You're going to get high beamed for sure with that.
It's not any brighter than the HIDs on cars blinding me coming in the opposite direction. And so what. If they beam me, chances are they saw me. +1 for improvising my visibility.
Let me just clarify, because I don't know if this is confusing or not: It's not like I've got the ****in Bat Signal bolted to the front of my bike. It's a proper HID kit. Yes its brighter, that's the point of the device. There are enough rich assholes around here driving fancy euro imports with HIDs that people are used to it by now.
b_eastep July 13th, 2009, 02:02 PM thanks for the pics. that was very informative. i only wish that the HID was the hi beam.
Rayme July 13th, 2009, 02:05 PM It's not any brighter than the HIDs on cars blinding me coming in the opposite direction. And so what. If they beam me, chances are they saw me. +1 for improvising my visibility.
Let me just clarify, because I don't know if this is confusing or not: It's not like I've got the ****in Bat Signal bolted to the front of my bike. It's a proper HID kit. Yes its brighter, that's the point of the device. There are enough rich assholes around here driving fancy euro imports with HIDs that people are used to it by now.
Not to be an asshole but if you seriously concern with your visibiliy you'd wouldn't be wearing a shaded visor at night. There is more to HID's than you'd think and yes, you are probably blinding incoming traffic more than stock vehicle with HID's. I'm done here.
ASecretNinja July 13th, 2009, 04:28 PM thanks for the pics. that was very informative. i only wish that the HID was the hi beam.
I'm glad someone was helped by this. And I agree, a hi-beam HID seems like a better idea. Or better yet, bi-xenon for lo and hi :drool:
Alex July 13th, 2009, 04:33 PM Lighten up people. Language is uncalled for, attacking another member is uncalled for, and one of you is just back a few days after being banned for similar behavior. If you don't want to be here, just don't be here.
ASecretNinja July 13th, 2009, 04:37 PM Lighten up people. Language is uncalled for, attacking another member is uncalled for, and one of you is just back a few days after being banned for similar behavior. If you don't want to be here, just don't be here.
I went out of my way to post pictures and a write up for some people about my experience with HIDs, and this is how I'm repaid. I feel im well within my right to be annoyed by this individual.
Alex July 13th, 2009, 04:40 PM But in responding how you did, and attacking him, you lessened the thread, and your reputation on this board.
Writeups: good
Pictures: good
Disagreements: fine and dandy. If we all agreed on everything we'd have nothing to talk about.
Attacking another member over a disagreement: not so good
Pretend to not understand the difference: I'm sure there are more suitable boards out there for you
ASecretNinja July 13th, 2009, 04:59 PM But in responding how you did, and attacking him, you lessened the thread, and if it were possible, your reputation on this board.
Writeups: good
Pictures: good
Disagreements: fine and dandy. If we all agreed on everything we'd have nothing to talk about.
Attacking another member over a disagreement: not so good
Pretend to not understand the difference: I'm sure there are more suitable boards out there for you
De gustibus non est disputandum.
Good day sir.
b_eastep July 14th, 2009, 01:20 PM I'm glad someone was helped by this. And I agree, a hi-beam HID seems like a better idea. Or better yet, bi-xenon for lo and hi :drool:
yea, would like to hear from someone witha bi-xenon kit on their bike. not sure about those.
Verus Cidere July 15th, 2009, 09:30 PM I'm eager to see the shots, I'm totally not sold on those things
https://www.hidlook.com/catalog/images/hh.jpg :D
Any possibility of replacing the halogen high-beam bulb on this kit with another HID bulb?
Verus Cidere July 22nd, 2009, 12:31 AM Found this on Ebay.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170317721264&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
Would this work? It says it'll work on all motorcycles, but I would think that would assume that we've got a split bulb hi-beam/lo-beam setup, which the pregens don't have.....?? :confused:
ASecretNinja August 11th, 2009, 04:31 PM Found this on Ebay.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170317721264&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
Would this work? It says it'll work on all motorcycles, but I would think that would assume that we've got a split bulb hi-beam/lo-beam setup, which the pregens don't have.....?? :confused:
That looks 99% the same as the kit that I got, which is a dual-beam hi/low set-up, which works. Like I said in my original write up, the halogen highbeam is pretty weak, but the xenon lo-beam is so good that I never need the high beam.
Going to give one more plug for lightningindustries.com because of their awesome plug and play kits.
Verus Cidere August 12th, 2009, 12:32 AM So would it be possible to replace the halogen high-beam with a different HID bulb?
ASecretNinja August 12th, 2009, 02:30 PM Not with my kit. I just talked to my friend at LightningIndustries (where I bought my kit). But like I said, don't knock the Xenon low beam until you try it. I never even need a high beam anymore.
Feel free to google bi-xenon HID kits, but they are triple the price of what I paid and there is twice as much hardware to mount. I can't say how happy I am with mine. Best 50 dollars I've spent on an upgrade.
Verus Cidere August 12th, 2009, 11:37 PM Found this on eBay....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150361869628&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
Looks like it's just a straight replacement to the regular bulb, but I'm a little confused. It says "Halogen HID" Does that even exist? I thought it was either halogen, or HID. Is this just a cheap knock-off of a real HID kit? :confused20:
Grn99Kawi August 13th, 2009, 07:54 PM Found this on eBay....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150361869628&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
Looks like it's just a straight replacement to the regular bulb, but I'm a little confused. It says "Halogen HID" Does that even exist? I thought it was either halogen, or HID. Is this just a cheap knock-off of a real HID kit? :confused20:
That's junk.. a halogen dipped in blue . Real HID kits have the ballast(s), bulb(s) and wiring.. true HID setups use all the aforementioned and a housing and lense designed for HID beam patterns.
ASecretNinja August 25th, 2009, 01:50 PM That's junk.. a halogen dipped in blue . Real HID kits have the ballast(s), bulb(s) and wiring.. true HID setups use all the aforementioned and a housing and lense designed for HID beam patterns.
+1. You want xenon, not halogen.
Verus Cidere August 25th, 2009, 11:07 PM Any housing lenses for the ninjette or do we have to make our own? Can we just use the stock one?
Imthebriman August 25th, 2009, 11:48 PM Any housing lenses for the ninjette or do we have to make our own? Can we just use the stock one?
You need to make one or else you could blind oncoming traffic but atleast they will see you right?
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ASecretNinja August 26th, 2009, 04:00 PM Any housing lenses for the ninjette or do we have to make our own? Can we just use the stock one?
You don't have to replace the housing lens. Where did this come from? The HID kit that I bought (and others I have seen) are merely a replacement bulb, with a ballast that you have to mount somewhere. You are not replacing the entire headlight unit.
Verus Cidere August 27th, 2009, 12:11 AM Is this another one of those fakes?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-H4-BLUE-HID-KAWASAKI-NINJA-93-04-250-94-06-500-ZX-9_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem53dc67acc9QQitemZ36018006 7529QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
ASecretNinja August 27th, 2009, 10:26 AM Is this another one of those fakes?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-H4-BLUE-HID-KAWASAKI-NINJA-93-04-250-94-06-500-ZX-9_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem53dc67acc9QQitemZ36018006 7529QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Yes.
www.lightninindustries.com
Get their HID set up and let this thread die already lol.
Verus Cidere August 27th, 2009, 12:06 PM Can you check your link Chad? It doesn't seem to be working for me.
Imthebriman August 27th, 2009, 12:20 PM http://www.lightningindustries.com
He accidentally left out the G
Imthebriman August 27th, 2009, 12:30 PM You don't have to replace the housing lens. Where did this come from? The HID kit that I bought (and others I have seen) are merely a replacement bulb, with a ballast that you have to mount somewhere. You are not replacing the entire headlight unit.
It is understood that it is just a replacement bulb. The main concern is that without proper reflectors in the housing that the scatter from the light would blind oncoming traffic. I personally don't care. My car doesnt have any special housing for the HIDs. I found an H4 kit at Harbor Freight for $50. The only thing is, they are on single beam....i think since it comes with two ballasts and two bulbs, I will have a back up...
LazinCajun August 29th, 2009, 09:08 PM Yes.
www.lightninindustries.com
Get their HID set up and let this thread die already lol.
Does the lightning industries kit leave the xenon bulb at the same place as stock, or do you have to modify it with spacers like the kit from the DIY thread?
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ASecretNinja August 29th, 2009, 11:27 PM Does the lightning industries kit leave the xenon bulb at the same place as stock, or do you have to modify it with spacers like the kit from the DIY thread?
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Bulb is in the same spot. It's fully plug and play.
And sorry for spelling the site wrong earlier, and thanks for the correction!
ASecretNinja August 29th, 2009, 11:29 PM It is understood that it is just a replacement bulb. The main concern is that without proper reflectors in the housing that the scatter from the light would blind oncoming traffic. I personally don't care. My car doesnt have any special housing for the HIDs. I found an H4 kit at Harbor Freight for $50. The only thing is, they are on single beam....i think since it comes with two ballasts and two bulbs, I will have a back up...
Exactly. Even without modifying my housing, my bike isn't any brighter than the HIDs from cars blinding me as they come from the other direction.
Imthebriman August 30th, 2009, 10:23 AM Exactly. Even without modifying my housing, my bike isn't any brighter than the HIDs from cars blinding me as they come from the other direction.
That's why I don't really care about modding the housing. You wouldn't happen to have the part number to the kit you bought would you?
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LazinCajun August 30th, 2009, 03:32 PM Bulb is in the same spot. It's fully plug and play.
Oops, I just realized this thread was for pre-gen, not 08+. :doh:
Can anybody tell me if the lightningindustries kit will require adding spacers to the bulb for the new gen 250's? Sorry to bring this up again, but I'm going to be doing the conversion in somebody else's garage, so I want to be 100% prepared before I start.
ASecretNinja August 30th, 2009, 07:14 PM Lazin, e-mail Tim at LI
info@lightningindustries.com
And ask him. I have a pre-gen so I don't know how different the new ones are. He may know, he helped me a lot.
Greg_E August 31st, 2009, 07:26 PM What about some of the real Bi-Xenon kits that have been salvaged or built from car parts that have a real Bi-Xenon with actuator for the high beams, how many projectors can we safely run in a pregen? Would be nice to get two of them and have lots of light out there in both low and high beam. Yes it would require a fairing mod as well as custom mounts, but very cool.
I know they are rated at 35 watts, but what is the real draw including what is wasted in the ballast? The normal low beam is a real 55 watts draw and maybe 65 draw in high. Anyone running illegal 100 watt high beams without problems?
Thinking something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290343688364 (but one with better shipping!)
WHITE-LITE September 1st, 2009, 08:18 AM Check my thread out I offer 55 Watt Slim, Reg and Bi Xenon HID KITS
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27945
Greg_E September 1st, 2009, 09:13 AM I did not see any Bi-xenon kits listed, and nothing with reflectors/projectors either. Are these new or sold out?
WHITE-LITE September 1st, 2009, 09:29 AM I did not see any Bi-xenon kits listed, and nothing with reflectors/projectors either. Are these new or sold out?
Is the question for me? If so I have not had time to list my 55 Watt Bi-Xenon kits and as far as the projectors we do not offer those.. thanks :thumbup:
white-lite
Verus Cidere September 6th, 2009, 12:23 AM I have another one for you guys. Good or bad?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawasaki-Ninja-250-HID-Xenon-Converstion-Kit-2006-2007_W0QQitemZ370253797135QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories? hash=item5634d8970f&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
Greg_E September 6th, 2009, 07:45 AM You loose the high beam, those are single element replacement bulbs. So if you don't mind loosing the high beam (and possibly not passing the inspection) it sure is cheap. if you had a two eye bike like the newer machines the price would put in in the realm of might as well try it.
WHITE-LITE September 6th, 2009, 08:20 AM I have another one for you guys. Good or bad?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kawasaki-Ninja-250-HID-Xenon-Converstion-Kit-2006-2007_W0QQitemZ370253797135QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories? hash=item5634d8970f&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
^^^cheap ballast and bulb very low grade ^^^
what kits do you guys need I offer real 55watt bi-xenon kits pm me
Verus Cidere September 9th, 2009, 11:37 PM Can you post a link to one of your bi-xenon kits? Are they plug-n-play or do they require modification?
WHITE-LITE September 10th, 2009, 06:37 AM Can you post a link to one of your bi-xenon kits? Are they plug-n-play or do they require modification?
Sure let me get some pictures together
Verus Cidere September 10th, 2009, 03:49 PM Thanks! :thumbup:
bobaab September 30th, 2009, 10:33 PM Just a warning to everyone thinking about doing an "HID conversion". Although the bulbs themselves may be DOT approved, current law states that HID lights are only legal if installed on the vehicle from the manufacturers factories. Meaning, HID lights are not street legal.
Why?
HID bulbs give out a completely different light pattern than our trusty old halogen bulbs. The housing for the halogen bulbs are developed FOR halogen bulbs and focus the beam in a correct way. This is especially true for cars, but, for motorcycles as well.
Please read through this before for a much much better explanation...
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
You guys say you don't really care about oncoming traffic, but it can seriously be dangerous. Imagine you come up to a car on some twisties, managing to blind the oncoming driver. He won't be able to see and hits you. Or even if it is just HIM that gets in an accident. Where did that $50 go?
To each their own, but please consider the safety of others. I really needed to say this since no one else brought it up here...which I am terribly surprised of. Be safe, have fun! :thumbup:
Verus Cidere September 30th, 2009, 10:54 PM Thanks for the heads-up. There was a bit of a fight over this on page one I believe though. I've been thinking about that though as well. Do you happen to know of any modifications that can be done (lenses, housings, etc.) that will make the correct beam pattern and still fit in our bikes?
WHITE-LITE October 1st, 2009, 08:44 AM Just a warning to everyone thinking about doing an "HID conversion". Although the bulbs themselves may be DOT approved, current law states that HID lights are only legal if installed on the vehicle from the manufacturers factories. Meaning, HID lights are not street legal.
Why?
HID bulbs give out a completely different light pattern than our trusty old halogen bulbs. The housing for the halogen bulbs are developed FOR halogen bulbs and focus the beam in a correct way. This is especially true for cars, but, for motorcycles as well.
Please read through this before for a much much better explanation...
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
You guys say you don't really care about oncoming traffic, but it can seriously be dangerous. Imagine you come up to a car on some twisties, managing to blind the oncoming driver. He won't be able to see and hits you. Or even if it is just HIM that gets in an accident. Where did that $50 go?
To each their own, but please consider the safety of others. I really needed to say this since no one else brought it up here...which I am terribly surprised of. Be safe, have fun! :thumbup:
Its all all about preference.. If you actually want to see what's on the road go with HID'S :thumbup:
http://i38.tinypic.com/2qdonpu.jpg
low beam
Rayme October 1st, 2009, 10:13 AM Just a warning to everyone thinking about doing an "HID conversion". Although the bulbs themselves may be DOT approved, current law states that HID lights are only legal if installed on the vehicle from the manufacturers factories. Meaning, HID lights are not street legal.
Why?
HID bulbs give out a completely different light pattern than our trusty old halogen bulbs. The housing for the halogen bulbs are developed FOR halogen bulbs and focus the beam in a correct way. This is especially true for cars, but, for motorcycles as well.
Please read through this before for a much much better explanation...
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html
You guys say you don't really care about oncoming traffic, but it can seriously be dangerous. Imagine you come up to a car on some twisties, managing to blind the oncoming driver. He won't be able to see and hits you. Or even if it is just HIM that gets in an accident. Where did that $50 go?
To each their own, but please consider the safety of others. I really needed to say this since no one else brought it up here...which I am terribly surprised of. Be safe, have fun! :thumbup:
This sadly won't go to some people's brain.
You got to ask yourself why you don't see HID kits in wal-marts, pep boys or all other retailers...Because it's illegal to sell them.
bobaab October 1st, 2009, 11:34 AM Thanks for the heads-up. There was a bit of a fight over this on page one I believe though. I've been thinking about that though as well. Do you happen to know of any modifications that can be done (lenses, housings, etc.) that will make the correct beam pattern and still fit in our bikes?
You're right, I missed the first page! But I still don't think there was enough information about the "side effects" of HID conversions. I don't know of any mods, except to actually retrofit a projector in the housing.
Its all all about preference.. If you actually want to see what's on the road go with HID'S :thumbup:
It's not about preference, it's about the law and some respect for other motorists. I'm not a cop by any means, but I do hate lame Civics that have HID conversions blinding me in my low profile MR2.
This sadly won't go to some people's brain.
You got to ask yourself why you don't see HID kits in wal-marts, pep boys or all other retailers...Because it's illegal to sell them.
Very good point about kits not sold at retail stores! That is exactly why :thumbup:
Momaru October 1st, 2009, 12:08 PM While not strictly, legal as mentioned above, if you're serious about getting real HID, with correct projectors, etc, check this out. Probably will cost a major limb to get to the US, but this is the only model I've seen actually made for the ninjette, new-gens anyway.
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showpost.php?p=73726&postcount=17
Greg_E October 1st, 2009, 12:43 PM You can LEGALLY convert any vehicle to HID with kits from Hella, they are lamp, projector and if you go BiXenon you can get the servo actuator for the high/low beam deflection. They do have ASE/DOT approved kits for this, but they are not by any means cheap.
Page 10 in this catalog:
http://www.myhellalights.com/brochure.pdf
They also somewhere have a motorcycle specific HID system, but I think it may be OEM only.
bobaab October 2nd, 2009, 08:52 AM Good find...here you go guys, maybe one of you guys can retrofit this legal bulb and projector into your headhlight housing. It will set you back over $500 though.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HLA-009071091/?image=large
Greg_E October 2nd, 2009, 10:36 AM Got to go with the Bixenon for that price. I do have a project that I intend to do with dual Bixenon, but it's not a ninjette.
The Hella stuff is great, but great has a price. I have the Micro DE fog lamps (halogen) on my car, work really well and tiny.
Greg_E October 2nd, 2009, 10:38 AM Also there is a place in Pennsylvania that has the complete Hella line, but I forget the name at the moment, they were a bit cheaper than Summit and shipped extremely fast!
Hedge36 October 3rd, 2009, 08:28 AM Rick at Motorrad Elektrik showed me a new toy that he's testing on a K75: a single HID conversion with a solenoid that re-focuses the beam between high and low. In the shop it looked VERY promising, and if it holds up to some serious road miles that little bugger is definitely getting plugged into SWMBO's 250.
Greg_E October 3rd, 2009, 10:24 AM That's a correct Bixenon. Most use a servo of some sort, but I see no reason a simple solenoid wouldn't work.
ebdavis August 4th, 2010, 10:10 AM What kind of headlight bulb does an ex250F take anyway? H1, H3, etc... I'm extremely intrested in this. I'm about to email Lightning Industries, but I want to specify the correct bulb. Thank you!
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