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SLOWn60
August 15th, 2016, 04:00 PM
The only webpage/forum I have that is loading at glacial speed is ninjette! Anyone know what there might be to look for and where/how to eliminate whatever is dragging the site down at least on my notebook (Acer) and phone (iPhone)? I know it's probably from clicking on all those Russian Bride ads that Alex has attached to my feed but I have enough applicants to choose from now and no longer need more!

Seriously; ninjette is the only site that I seem to have the issue with.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you may have.

Alex
August 15th, 2016, 04:08 PM
Would be interested to hear if this is shared with anyone else out there. The server is in Montreal, so the further away one gets, there would be a slight delay. I'm here on the west coast though, and it isn't too bad from here. I have this view showing up on every page for me, to show loading times:

Page generated in 0.24641 seconds with 23 queries [Server Loads: 0.28 0.32 : 0.31]

It is typically around there, between 1 and 3 tenths of a second for any page to be generated. I do have a speed test posted up here: speedtest.ninjette.org , but I see that it needs to be refreshed. It won't work right now, but should tonight if I refresh it. It will show you the overall internet speed in between the ninjette.org webserver and your web client.

RacinNinja
August 15th, 2016, 04:11 PM
Are you on Windows or a Mac? You could run a traceroute to IP: 198.50.222.41 and see which hop is giving you fits.

Might be an ad on the site that is slow to load also.

SLOWn60
August 15th, 2016, 04:38 PM
Are you on Windows or a Mac? You could run a traceroute to IP: 198.50.222.41 and see which hop is giving you fits.

Might be an ad on the site that is slow to load also.

Thanks B. Both actually; windows on the laptop and iPhone on the iPhone.
I'll try that address and see what I get

Alex
August 15th, 2016, 04:46 PM
There is an option in the settings to disable ads:

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/profile.php?do=editoptions

Scroll all the way to the bottom and you'll see the radio buttons. It will blank out all ad loading for the month; it resets itself the first of each month. Might be helpful to troubleshoot whether it is some slow-loading set of ads, or really something from the ninjette server itself.

SLOWn60
August 15th, 2016, 05:12 PM
Thanks Alex
I'll try these simple suggestions and see what I get. I'm a bit of Luddite so anything more technical is beyond my simple old brain!
I'm not on wifi at the moment so I'll run the suggestions tomorrow morning.

JohnnyBravo
August 15th, 2016, 06:18 PM
A bit of a Luddite... Me too

EternalNewb
August 15th, 2016, 06:51 PM
I'm also having a similar issue. Pages aren't fully loading, or take skywards of an hour... Bizzaro. Wasn't that way this morning though.

RacinNinja
August 15th, 2016, 07:00 PM
Willing to bet it's an ad. Sorry Alex, I run an Ad Blocker. I'm having zero issues.

JohnnyBravo
August 16th, 2016, 03:22 AM
I run the ads, and did fine

Alex
August 16th, 2016, 10:44 AM
Apologies, turned on the Olympics and then fell asleep last night. Will try and get the speed test updated tonight. Are people still seeing slowness, even with ads turned off? For what it's worth, there still doesn't appear to be any weird delays on this side, with all ads on (through my work connection, home connection, wireless, on any device I've tried)

EternalNewb
August 16th, 2016, 10:56 AM
I haven't changed anything on my end, and it seems to be working fine today.

NevadaWolf
August 16th, 2016, 11:12 AM
I haven't noticed anything on any of my devices.

IE 11 with an Adblocker (per the annoying Forbes page telling me to turn it off) on the obnoxiously slow work connection
Dolphin 11.5.9 on Android 5.1.1 (wow, really?! cool) with my Verizon network.
Chrome 52.0.2743.84 on iOS 9.3.4 with same Verizon

I was getting the same Russian/Asian bride ads at least until I looked at a car dealership site - now Google is trying to sell me Hondas/Toyotas/Subarus/Jeeps.

Alex
August 16th, 2016, 12:18 PM
There's nothing fundamentally changing in the site software, server, etc. over days/weeks/months. So ads are really the only variable. Every once in awhile Google doesn't vet thoroughly enough and an ad slows some of the page load down. The way the ads are coded, they are supposed to load last. So even if an ad hangs forever, the whole site page is painted and usable, but the top left thingee will be spinning forever (never completing), because it is still waiting on that ad code. Annoying, but not supposed to be debilitating. Google has pretty strict parameters for how quickly ads are supposed to load, so as they start seeing issues they should be yanking the ads from their networks themselves. But it's not perfect.

I understand why people use adblockers, but folks also need to understand that if the ad revenue dipped below the direct costs to run the site, I'd have to shut it down (the site, not the ads). Fortunately, it's nowhere close at the moment so I don't run any of those annoy-bots reminding people to turn off ad-blockers on the site. Those that are blocking ads are betting on enough users to not use those tools, and so far it's a good bet (it's not even close, I'm not really worried about it).

I never want to collect direct payment from any users here, I don't like the model where people pay extra for additional features. So ads are pretty much the only other option to make this sustainable. If people are blocking ads because of a particularly annoying one, just let me know and I can block the entire domain right away.

RacinNinja
August 16th, 2016, 12:29 PM
There's nothing fundamentally changing in the site software, server, etc. over days/weeks/months. So ads are really the only variable. Every once in awhile Google doesn't vet thoroughly enough and an ad slows some of the page load down. The way the ads are coded, they are supposed to load last. So even if an ad hangs forever, the whole site page is painted and usable, but the top left thingee will be spinning forever (never completing), because it is still waiting on that ad code. Annoying, but not supposed to be debilitating. Google has pretty strict parameters for how quickly ads are supposed to load, so as they start seeing issues they should be yanking the ads from their networks themselves. But it's not perfect.

I understand why people use adblockers, but folks also need to understand that if the ad revenue dipped below the direct costs to run the site, I'd have to shut it down (the site, not the ads). Fortunately, it's nowhere close at the moment so I don't run any of those annoy-bots reminding people to turn off ad-blockers on the site. Those that are blocking ads are betting on enough users to not use those tools, and so far it's a good bet (it's not even close, I'm not really worried about it).

I never want to collect direct payment from any users here, I don't like the model where people pay extra for additional features. So ads are pretty much the only other option to make this sustainable. If people are blocking ads because of a particularly annoying one, just let me know and I can block the entire domain right away.

Out of respect for you and the totally awesome thing you've got going here, lemme test whitelisting this site in my AdBlocker.

To be honest, the reason I run one is that I've had some bad ads get through and the only thing that saved my ass from an auto-loading virus was my kick ass anti-virus.

RacinNinja
August 16th, 2016, 01:37 PM
I re-enabled ads and it does load slower. It also delays clicked links loading. Ads have varied a bit so it's not one in particular, although a Dodge ad has been dominating the top and may be the issue.

Forum shows up quickly while the rest loads but clicking links to threads takes a bit before it loads the next page.

Doesn't affect posting, clicking reply or edit, etc.

EDIT: Can confirm after multiple page changes and watching, Dodge ad at the top of the forum is consistently the last to load by a large margin and seems to be hindering things until it's done.

Alex
August 16th, 2016, 01:47 PM
Dodge.com has been blocked; it may take a short while to kick in.

RacinNinja
August 16th, 2016, 01:51 PM
Dodge.com has been blocked; it may take a short while to kick in.

Thanks ALex!

I will report any changes once I see them happen.

RacinNinja
August 16th, 2016, 02:12 PM
Dodge.com has been blocked; it may take a short while to kick in.

Alex, the actual website the ad takes you to is this one: http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/ram_1500/?bid=9723151&sid=1016812&pid=131793963&adid=304538667&cid=68018466&buytype=IM&TR=1&channel=display

Sorry, it's not Dodge.com. I should have provided this info before hand.

Alex
August 16th, 2016, 02:16 PM
ramtrucks.com blocked.

RacinNinja
August 16th, 2016, 02:28 PM
ramtrucks.com blocked.

I still get the Ram ad BUT....

Holy crap does it load a lot faster!

Mission successful! Thanks!! :thumbup:

JohnnyBravo
August 16th, 2016, 02:39 PM
:clapping:

SLOWn60
August 22nd, 2016, 05:36 PM
Well it seems my cheap little Acer $300 notebook doesn't like ninjette.org because when I ran that IP address above; it loads right away!

Phone is faster too now that I blocked the ad button but ads pay for the place so I'll revert at the end of the month

Bob2010
August 22nd, 2016, 07:56 PM
All is well here ... Phone, laptop and desktop ;)

Alex
September 4th, 2016, 03:32 PM
Well it seems my cheap little Acer $300 notebook doesn't like ninjette.org because when I ran that IP address above; it loads right away!

ninjette.org is that IP address; if it loads fast with the IP address and slow with the domain name, something may be funky with your dns resolution. (clear cache, confirm you're using a dns server that is working well). I generally point mine to google's rather than using my ISP's.

SLOWn60
September 4th, 2016, 04:18 PM
ninjette.org is that IP address; if it loads fast with the IP address and slow with the domain name, something may be funky with your dns resolution. (clear cache, confirm you're using a dns server that is working well). I generally point mine to google's rather than using my ISP's.

You're talking geek speak but I'll run it through my Star Trek Universal Communicator and see what I find! Thanks for the inputs!

JohnnyBravo
September 5th, 2016, 10:29 PM
My phones loving it