I came across this link (http://www.nocutmodulators.com/), and quickly decided to try one out. It's a "no-cut" flasher for the 2008 Ninja 250R's rear brake light. Basically, you take off your rear seat, you unplug the brake light harness, and plug this gadget in between, you stick the small unit into an empty spot with the included 2-sided tape, and you're done. I just finished installing it, it works exactly as described, and is a piece of cake to install (and uninstall, if you like).

You have a choice of having it flash about 5 times then go solid, or about 10 times and go solid, by cutting the green wire. I've attached a PDF of the ebay auction which includes detailed pics. Looking at the web page, it appears that you don't have to "buy it now" through ebay, you can just paypal him directly from the website.

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/360891634_grxPV-L.gif

I bought this about 3 weeks ago and put it on my bike. I have had a couple cars tell me at stop lights that my brake light was flashing...all I could do was smile. This means they saw it and thus this simple mod is very effective. I love feeling safer when Im riding with all those crazy floridian drivers:D

My first mod.

Installed on the bike with zero miles before the maiden voyage!

I have one on mine too.... I like it.

My wife was following me one night and later told me that that single red light in the night blends in with everything else, but when it starts to flash it pops out. Best mod for the $$ (IMN2BHO).

Me too. Put mine in earlier this week!

I also have one. One of my first mods, even before the fender elim. Anything that might help cagers see that I'm slowing down and not plow into me is fine by me..

yeah basically it's a $5 parts wired up to two connectors...You can just buy the parts for $5 and cut a single wire and attach it yourself.

Mind posting up any links to where we can find the Rear-Alert module for $5? My quick searches online show it for between $10 & $15, then you'd need the proprietary connectors and some soldering skills. Certainly a simple task, but for someone to package them together, guarantee them, and make the task a 5 minute job for just about anyone with no cutting involved, that was worth $20 to me. The price has gone up a bit (I think he wants $28 now), but I can see many folks still being very interested in it.

Projects like this have always cost me wayyyy more $ since the only easy source I have for electronic parts in small amounts is Radio Shack, and they are $$$$$$. I paid ~$30 I think this past summer for my unit. I agree that it is worth it. The guy who makes them must get the parts in bulk, so I wouldn't be surprised if $5 is his cost.

Here you go:

http://superlumination.com/braker_installation.html

You need that two wires unit...not the three wires.

Wow - that is cheap!

Here you go:

http://superlumination.com/braker_installation.html

You need that two wires unit...not the three wires.

I noticed this statement
Note: This module is not suited for filament style bulbs. A filament style bulb is not capable of fast switching, and cannot strobe. The power draw of the filament style bulb will destroy the Braker Flashing Module.
Does that mean it would only work if we've swapped out the bulbs?

Wow - that is cheap!


I thought you'd say something like " Wow, I paid $30 bucks...I've been boned" :D

I noticed this statement

Does that mean it would only work if we've swapped out the bulbs?

It will work...the $30 is the same unit...just a connector added to "plug in". If you want, you can order the LED bulb that they have there too..LED works better of course (flashes faster, cleaner)

Have you (or anyone you know) installed that module, and has it been working for awhile? LED bulb or incandescent? If so, it does seem like a way to save a couple bucks and get similar results.

Have you (or anyone you know) installed that module, and has it been working for awhile? LED bulb or incandescent? If so, it does seem like a way to save a couple bucks and get similar results.

back then I have incandescent but now I replaced with LED bulb so it works better (flashes faster & brighter).

this was my very first mod. some times when I'm stopped at a light all alone and i see a car flying up behind me i trigger the flash.. i immediately see the nose of the car dip.. but another thing i noticed every once in a while i get someone riding my tail because they think i keep tapping the breaks

I used this one
http://www.kisantech.com/view_product.php?product=20W-D
Cost $70 , But it just replaces the Bulb.
It also has a Flash Rate that slows down until it gets to solid on.
It also came with an extra Halogen bulb in the package.

I used this one
http://www.kisantech.com/view_product.php?product=20W-D
Cost $70 , But it just replaces the Bulb.
It also has a Flash Rate that slows down until it gets to solid on.
It also came with an extra Halogen bulb in the package.

:eek:OMG why?? $70? The flasher modular does the same thing...for $5.

Impulse purchase when i just got bike.
I liked the fact it just replaced the stock light.

Still waiting for ClearAlteratives to release intergrated light.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a LED taillight bulb? Are they as bright as stock?

back then I have incandescent but now I replaced with LED bulb so it works better (flashes faster & brighter).

does that LED-bulb fit the original bulb-socket?

I know that LED can be brighter than incandescent when designed properly. Many cars and bikes are coming with LED signals stock that meet all DOT regs and are plenty bright (including all of my cars and some of my own bikes). But all of the ones that I've seen that just replace a stock bulb with a LED array screwed into that bulb mount just aren't as bright. Right behind the bike in a straight angle they are plenty bright, but just off angle they are nowhere near as bright as the original bulb. YMMV.

I ended up purchaseing a 32 LED tail light bulb from autolumination. BEWARE THEY ARE A BAD COMPANY!!! DO NOT BUY!!!
The bulb was THE MATRIX II LED BULB. It was $12. I like how it still uses the stock reflector. I think that this bulb will be less directional than others. I will review it when it gets here. I also ordered one of the flasher units.

http://superlumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/1157_90_matrix2_wm.jpg

I ended up purchaseing a 32 LED tail light bulb from http://superlumination.com/1156_1157.htm
The bulb was THE MATRIX II LED BULB. It was $12. I like how it still uses the stock reflector. I think that this bulb will be less directional than others. I will review it when it gets here. I also ordered one of the flasher units.

It'd be great if you can include your review in this thread:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11738

That's one of the bulbs I was looking at getting!

It'd be great if you can include your review in this thread:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11738

That's one of the bulbs I was looking at getting!
I will do that. I ordered them last night so expect it late next week or early the week after.

http://www.nocutmodulators.com/

This guy is wonderful, and his product is exactly as advertised. You've read about my experience with the other guy - typical for me to try and save a buck and end up spending more in the long run. As a result of the other thing, we now own a heat gun (that the hubby wanted anyway), and spent over $10 in the connectors that I used, and then cut out and had to use to reconnect my brake light.
So two thumbs up for no cut modulators! My only advice is not to get it through ebay - it's $2 cheaper and shipping is $1 cheaper through his site.... ask me how I know :rolleyes:

Who was the seller?

check out the pdf at the top of this thread

I was wondering who the seller was because this is the only seller that the search function from ebay picks up ace-at-mind (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Motorcycle-Parts-Accessories__NO-CUT-Brake-Lamp-Modulator-2001-2008-2009-Ninja-250_W0QQitemZ180333232168QQadiZ2863QQadnZMotorcycleQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQ QcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item180333232168&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A1171|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318) and he is selling it for $2 more and its making me wonder what the sellers name that sells it for $2 dollars less in the original pdf. You said it was cheaper through ebay so I'm trying to find it.

yup, that's the one - but I think I lied - I meant to say don't buy it through ebay - sorry!

also, ace at mind is a member of this forum. :)

Does anyone know if this will work on the '07 250? Or is the brake light connector different on it? I can't tell from the pictures on his site or from the wiring diagrams in the service manual and online (Babbitt's) schematics.

why not send him a PM or email and ask?

Does anyone know if this will work on the '07 250? Or is the brake light connector different on it? I can't tell from the pictures on his site or from the wiring diagrams in the service manual and online (Babbitt's) schematics.

I only have modulators available for the 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R. It is possible that this unit fits the earlier versions of this bike, but I did not test it myself, so I cannot tell you that it does.

unless something has changed, he doesn't know if it will work with your bike. maybe you can ask him if it is ok to try it out and if it doesn't fit, return it.

Kelly, that note on his website is the reason I didn't just e-mail and ask him. I can buy it and try it, but I was hoping someone was familiar enough with the connectors that they could just tell me that they're the same (or that they're not).

Given how detailed the Kawasaki parts diagrams seem to be, I'm a bit surprised that they don't have more detail on the connector or harness. Can someone take a better pic of the '08 connector and post it here? (Or I can post the '07 connector, and someone call tell me if it looks identical on the '08.)

Here is the diagram for the '07:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3653/3325984081_6ffddf63aa.jpg?v=0

All that being said, I've sent him an e-mail in case he's recently learned about the '07. I'll update this thread with his response.

Thanks.

JC,

Fair enough... you show me yours, I'll show you mine.:eek:

Post up a picture of the connector in question and I'll do likewise once I'm sure which connector we're talking about. :D

JC,

Fair enough... you show me yours, I'll show you mine.:eek:


:laugh:

I came across this link (http://www.nocutmodulators.com/), and quickly decided to try one out. It's a "no-cut" flasher for the 2008 Ninja 250R's rear brake light. Basically, you take off your rear seat, you unplug the brake light harness, and plug this gadget in between, you stick the small unit into an empty spot with the included 2-sided tape, and you're done. I just finished installing it, it works exactly as described, and is a piece of cake to install (and uninstall, if you like).

You have a choice of having it flash about 5 times then go solid, or about 10 times and go solid, by cutting the green wire. I've attached a PDF of the ebay auction which includes detailed pics. Looking at the web page, it appears that you don't have to "buy it now" through ebay, you can just paypal him directly from the website.



Forgive my ignorance, but I'm a mechanical zero. If this works for '08, it should work for '09 too, right? :hitself:

Update! I got a reply from the no-cut modulator guy. Here is what he said:

Yes, the unit has been used and tested on every year of 250 ninja from 2001 and up. It has also been tested and works with the 2006 Ninja 650R. I suspect that it will work with other year models, but I do not have those bikes available to me for fit testing.

I just haven't updated the site, yet!

So I should be good to go. Kelly, I'll still take a pic and post it up here. But since my rear end was damaged and rebuilt (ok ok stop laughing) I'm not sure if the stock connector is still on there.

Alex, yes the device should work on the '09 as well. It's pretty much identical to the '08. But you should let someone with at least an '08 chime in before buying one based on what I say.

cool... post up your pic when you can. I don't get home from work for another 4-5hours, so I won't be able to take pics till then. :(

Forgive my ignorance, but I'm a mechanical zero. If this works for '08, it should work for '09 too, right? :hitself:

Yup, it will work just fine for an '09.

Here's the '08+ connectors
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=913&stc=1&d=1236131104

Just ordered it. The install looks simple enough that even I can do it!

Besides, if it makes me more visible without riding naked :eek:, I'm all for it.

Just ordered it. The install looks simple enough that even I can do it!

Besides, if it makes me more visible without riding naked :eek:, I'm all for it.

I think naked riding only works for women..... actually on second thought, I may have that backward. It may cause cars to drive away from naked male riders, but target-fixate on the females.... well regardless, I'm sure someone could prove it a safety issue one way or another ;)

Yes, this is the brake light flasher to get if you just want basic functionality and easy installation. Honestly, I wouldn't even call it an installation since it takes more work to start your bike!

Here are my pics from my '05 Ninja. Looks like the connectors are the same (although I don't remember seeing a tab on the inside end of the female connector):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3627/3327845079_d62dda8311.jpg?v=0

In this second pic, you can see the back grab bar. Unfortunately I didn't realize I could reach the connector by removing the seat, and had opened up the underside of the rear end. So yes you can see the floor through the rear end!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3621/3327845135_ea9befdd5d.jpg?v=0

looks like the connectors are identical.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SbBSiKRmGHI/AAAAAAAAC7o/ee9Nw0FerUM/s640/DSC05184-1.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SbBSjHqr8QI/AAAAAAAAC70/SML3XyHBHnY/s640/DSC05185-1.JPG


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SbBSnGkOlUI/AAAAAAAAC8c/O3WEuSGicyo/s640/DSC05190-1.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SbBSlvHlghI/AAAAAAAAC8M/8jgbXOQa0e8/s640/DSC05188-1.JPG

Yup. Thanks guys! I'm definitely going for this flasher kit now.

Just installed it yesterday. Took just a few minutes and worked like a charm from the first minute. Great product, even if my 20 year old son doesn't understand the need for it.

It's great that even a mechanically disinclined person can install this.

I ordered, received, and installed this mod. Randall is a great seller, fast shipping and email response. Great product, just plug and go.

Randall really has a great product and great service. I ordered off his web site last Thursday night, had two eMail confirmations within the next 24 hours, and the product was in my mail box when I got home last night.

Took longer to open the box and get the seat off than to install it. Great recommendation Kim.

Randall really has a great product and great service. I ordered off his web site last Thursday night, had two eMail confirmations within the next 24 hours, and the product was in my mail box when I got home last night.

Took longer to open the box and get the seat off than to install it. Great recommendation Kim.

Same here! It came in the mail really quickly. :thumbup:

Here you go:

http://superlumination.com/braker_installation.html

You need that two wires unit...not the three wires.

Has anyone actually used this?

I bought one and tried to install it but it kept blowing fuses on me.

Has anyone actually used this?

I bought one and tried to install it but it kept blowing fuses on me.

Are you using LED bulbs and not filament?

Note: This module is not suited for filament style bulbs. A filament style bulb is not capable of fast switching, and cannot strobe. The power draw of the filament style bulb will destroy the Braker Flashing Module.

No, the stock bulb, and I thought that that might be the reason, but I read someone say that it would also work on filament bulbs.

I still have that as a possibility on the side, but I wanted to check if anyone has had success using this (or the No-Cut version with connectors) flasher with the stock bulbs.

Well good luck. If you read the full thread you might find some clues.

After I read through the problems some were having I got mine from Randall and the only time I look back is when I'm doing my pre-ride check to be sure the brake lights are working.

Well good luck. If you read the full thread you might find some clues.

After I read through the problems some were having I got mine from Randall and the only time I look back is when I'm doing my pre-ride check to be sure the brake lights are working.

So you're saying that you are using the No-Cut version with the stock (filament) bulb?

If so, there must be a difference in the circuit, and it's not just the connectors that make the No-Cut more expensive (and, if it's working with the stock bulb, well worth it).

Thanks for the replies.

He's politely trying to say that the one from that site is a piece of ****! Look at my thread - do not buy from superlumination.com for info

Randall sells a great product - I only wish I had gone with him from the start!
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Yeah, that much I got, but I just wanted to make sure that the No-Cut unit does work with the stock bulb.

I just read your other thread and it answered my questions. So now I'll buy the no-cut, and open up the superlumination module to check it out.

I used the cut version with no problem. I have a LED bulb but it also worked for me with the stock. Make sure you have it wired in series with the positive brake light wire.

He's politely trying to say that the one from that site is a piece of ****! Look at my thread - do not buy from superlumination.com for info

Randall sells a great product - I only wish I had gone with him from the start!
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:whatshesaid:

I used the cut version with no problem. I have a LED bulb but it also worked for me with the stock. Make sure you have it wired in series with the positive brake light wire.

Interesting. Did you get the one with only two cables? If so, I'd like to see how you connected yours, if it's possible to post a picture.

Mind you, the one I have is probably fried already, and I already placed an order for the No-Cut unit, but I'm curious.

Thanks!

I bought one that you splice in but when I splice it into the brake light wire I get the running light flashing and no flashing on the brake light. Any thoughts??

There are three wires that go to the brake light.
(1) ground / neutral
(2) Brake light
(3) running light.
Sounds like you spliced into the running light instead of the brake light. Try swaping the wires.

I figured out, but thanks again. I was spliced on the wrong side of the harness.

Well, I had mine connected wrong as well.

Just so everyone has it, the cable's color code is (at least for the 2008 model):

Red - Running light
Blue - Brake light
Black - Ground

So the modulator goes in the blue cable.

^^ Glad you figured it out. There is only 1 wire cut then put the unit in the middle...can't be that hard. I had it running for months. Buy the single wire unit...some guy bought the three wires and could figured out why it didn't work...Jesus!! I thought i was clearly pointed out about buying the single wire unit. Anyways, if you guys having so much trouble, might as well shell out the $35 and get the no cut & plug play version.... but if you can handle cut the blue wire, connect the unit in the middle of the two cut wires and tape them up then save yourself $30...but it does take 3 minutes of your time though :D

Yeah, I bought the one with two wires, by guidance provided here, and in retrospect, my wiring error was a dumb one.

I still went ahead and bought one of the No-Cut units from Randy (ace_at_mind), and I have to say that the difference in price is very much worth it. Not only because it installs in one minute (literally), but I found the flashing to be more consistent and more visible than with the cheaper modulator; both with the stock filament bulb.

Without any exaggeration, the No-Cut module flashes at least 100 times better than the cheaper one, in regards of the luminance difference between flashes, and the frequency at which it flashes. I'm pretty sure it would make a lot of difference on the street. The cheaper modulator works just fine, but the one from Randy works most excellent.

Kudos on a great product!

Woot! I just got mine yesterday. Randall was great to deal with. Got comfirmation via email and received the unit the next day!
Now if it will only quit snowing long enough for me to get in the garage to install it:(
Great suggestion, Alex!

i got my unit yesturday in the mail. can't wait for the snow to stop so i can install it and ride. When will the snow stop!!!!!:(

just ordered 1. Is it difficult to take the seat off or can I install this by just taking the seat cowl off?

just ordered 1. Is it difficult to take the seat off or can I install this by just taking the seat cowl off?
take the seat cowl off, unplug the rear tail light harness, plug the module thingamajigger in between. put cowl back on. pretty sure that is all that there is to it. oh, and tape the thingamajigger down.

edit: actually, the first post has the pdf that shows the instructions on how to install it.

I bought one LAST SUMMER from that site Alex OP* linked!

http://www.nocutmodulators.com/

Well tonite while riding back home along with Carol, she told me my Brake light stopped 'Flashing' It still worked like Normal, Running light and if brakes applied, BRIGHT RED!

Well tomorrow ill have to pop out the Taillight Bulb and see if the other Filament is burnt out or broken... but WTF did it quite working? :mad:

Nice alternative to the Comagination product which needed cutting.

Hey, look at this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280506276913#ht_500wt_1182
Will do regular bulbs w/o frying!

BAH, 3 month warranty! from the OP link, which is where i bought mine from. I still need to check on my bike and troubleshoot why my modulator ISNT working!

(I hurt my knee and can barely walk this weekend, so taking PICs at this time is a no-go!)

Ill post an update once i check out why mine quit working. Weather next 3 days gonna rain. :mad:



*** Anyone Please READ ****

Who here has bought the same very one from the OP's link?
How many months has yours been Working?
How many months did it take for yours to QUIT WORKING?

I've got one. I have had my bike 2 yrs, but don't know exactly when I got the modulator..... I know I had it by 6 mo., so lets say I've had it 1.5+ yrs. Still going strong.

UPDATE * * * * * * *

Well today i pulled the bike out and checked out the taillight modulator and turn signals,etc!

Modulators wiring was all good, and no loose connections.

I pulled out the rear taillight, light bulb...

BAM it looked funny, filament was just odd on one side.

So i had 1 more -My last spare- and put it in and BOOYAH!

Taillight modulates like before and rear brake light/running lights all work like normal!!! :thumbup:


So... even thou, the rear brake light worked like stock/normal, it only needed a New Bulb!!! ;)

Im happy, i thought i was gonna have to blow another $25-30 on a new modulator. :D

This is the THIRD rear light bulb in just over 1 year! My bike Eats them like candy!

It's nice when it ends up being the simple things.

2 years, same bulb here.... I wonder what is eating yours up so fast.

It's nice when it ends up being the simple things.

2 years, same bulb here.... I wonder what is eating yours up so fast.

I've ridden 2-UP with my GF on back many times!
From short 20mile rides, to 3 hour one way trips!

Rear shock set to #4, cuz #5 is too stiff when i Solo ride. So #4 seems to be the best overall setting.
-Lets face it, do you wanna be always readjusting the rear shock b4/after Each ride you do-? :eek:

So if shes sitting waaay back on the seat on avg. maybe her tailbone area is pushing the tip of the very rear portion of the passenger seat down into the plastics and taillight... and with that each bump we rode over... takes its toll on the light bulb? :idunno:

A modulator will eat filament bulbs much faster, get a RED 1157-R18-T from superbrightleds.com, $18 no more bulb problems

A modulator will eat filament bulbs much faster, get a RED 1157-R18-T from superbrightleds.com, $18 no more bulb problems

Do you run with these?? Does it still illuminate the reflective housing? Any pictures by any chance?

A modulator will eat filament bulbs much faster, get a RED 1157-R18-T from superbrightleds.com, $18 no more bulb problems

I actually thought about this yesterday. which lead me to the question; Will my modulator work the same with an LED tail light replacement? And if so....Now which replacement should I choose? For me it should be one that utilizes the housings reflectors. Any advice/pics? Anyone?

Ill just go to Autozone and buy another Pair (2) of 1157's for $3.29! :D

Once 5 years go by, it'll Total $18.00 on bulbs. If I ever upgrade to LED taillight and rear turnsignals and front LED turn signals, then a light bulb like you mention, would be ideal.

So till then... :D

I don't run a 1157-R18-T bulb, I got one of their older 3W Luxeon bulbs a year ago and am very happy with the light output. The new 1157-R18-T is brighter and uses more reflector. That's what I would get now.

I'm looking to add the Whelen TIR3 Super LED that the cops use on their cars and motorcycles (as an additional to the brake light). These are 3rd gen LED technology and are super bright in daylight. Seems like they have the flasher integrated.

Mxm-L-_5JwE

Not sure if it's legal to have flashing constant like that
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I came across this link (http://www.nocutmodulators.com/), and quickly decided to try one out. It's a "no-cut" flasher for the 2008 Ninja 250R's rear brake light. Basically, you take off your rear seat, you unplug the brake light harness, and plug this gadget in between, you stick the small unit into an empty spot with the included 2-sided tape, and you're done. I just finished installing it, it works exactly as described, and is a piece of cake to install (and uninstall, if you like).

You have a choice of having it flash about 5 times then go solid, or about 10 times and go solid, by cutting the green wire. I've attached a PDF of the ebay auction which includes detailed pics. Looking at the web page, it appears that you don't have to "buy it now" through ebay, you can just paypal him directly from the website.
Does this have a reset period? Or does it flash every time you brake? Read the webpage and didn't find anything about this. If I'm in stop and go traffic, will it be flashing "all the time"?

Thanks for any assistance.

No reset period. When you OPEN the circuit to the brake light, it is ready to flash again. So, if you have both brakes applied and only release one of them, the circuit has NOT been opened.

Yup, once the brake light comes off, the next time you brake it will flash. I have mine continuously flashing, so it never stops. There is a small green wire that if you leave as is it does that 3 blinks and goes solid, but if cut it just blinks continuously when the brake is activated.

any one know if this will work with the bikemonkey tail light or any other LED tail light with integrated signals??

just ordered mine, $30 is worth it for me as I have no knowledge of electronics and would not be able to connect that $5 one...

any one know if this will work with the bikemonkey tail light or any other LED tail light with integrated signals??

Yes

Love this mod. Just installed it yesterday. Wish it blinked a little quicker though.

Don't quote me on this, but I believe I read there is a CA law re: brake light flashers that gives guidelines as to what is allowed..... My "no-cut" flasher flashes between 6-8x per activation (green loop NOT cut). IIRC, the CA code specified a maximum number of allowed flashes, 3x I THINK. I don't remember where I read this.

However, I have NEVER had this questioned by PD, or CHP about the flasher, and had both behind me (CHP for longer as he was writing me a love-note). One local PD, however, did question me about the headlight modulator, but he was not familiar with them or the Fed. law allowing them.

I am pleased with this product as well as it has served me well this past riding season, although there is one thing I was interested in changing; that is the flash speed/frequency of the modulator.

Does anyone know of any way to either reduce the number of flashes, or speed up the flash time to reduce the overall 'modulated time' of the brake light? At this point the modulator flashes 5 times, and my understanding is that if you cut the green wire, it doubles its flash frequency to 10 times. I am interested in making the modulator flash fewer times (2 or 3), or reduce time interval between flashed in order to reduce the overall modulated time.

I wouldn't mind hacking up the cables in order to attach any electronic 'devices' (resistors, capacitors etc.) although I have just about zero knowledge regarding any actual electrical components (what they do and how they behave...).


If anyone thinks it can be done, I am willing to try :)

I downloaded the pdf but could not find the seller info and ebay does not have this listing either (obvious as it's been removed).

Could anyone post the seller's details so I can order from him directly?

The pdf mentioned International Shipping so I'm hoping he can ship the device to me.

I've gone through the posts and understand that it works with the filament bulbs.... but with LED's it makes for better visibility. Have i understood this correctly? If so, i need to order them LED bulbs too but doubtful if anyone will ship those all the way here. :confused:

http://www.nocutmodulators.com/

My unit is no-cut and adjustable flash duration. $25 US shipping included, shipping to India, Canada extra.

So what is the consensus here? It WILL work with filament bulbs but it shortens the bulbs life?

This is definitely a good safety feature to have along with the 2357 LL rear bulb.
Glad I bought one.
What's the difference between a 1157 bulb and a 2357 LL? As far as brightness for normal operation...none. However when braking the 2357 bulb is brighter than the 1157 (40 candela vs 32). The LL simply means longer life. No problem with bulb life here.

This is definitely a good safety feature to have along with the 2357 LL rear bulb.
Glad I bought one.
What's the difference between a 1157 bulb and a 2357 LL? As far as brightness for normal operation...none. However when braking the 2357 bulb is brighter than the 1157 (42 lumens vs 32). The LL simply means longer life. No problem with bulb life here.

Aren't they brighter than that?

http://www.sylvania.com/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=9&page_id=2360576&query=1157&SCOPE=SearchHost&hiword=1157%201157A

Aren't they brighter than that?

http://www.sylvania.com/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=9&page_id=2360576&query=1157&SCOPE=SearchHost&hiword=1157%201157A

You're right, that should be 32 candela/402 lumens (1157) vs 40 candela/503 lumens (2357) on the high element.

http://www.gadgetjq.com/brakelight_replacement.htm

Works fine for filament bulbs, hasn't had any noticeable affect on bulb life. :2cents:

Had my bike new since 2008. It is a commuter and has 22K miles to date. Still on the original brake light.

Awesome! Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'm sold!!!

My unit is no-cut and adjustable flash duration. $25 US shipping included, shipping to India, Canada extra.

Are you selling these? any video demos?

I just ordered a universal one. I didn't really want to pay an extra $15 to save 10 minutes. Besides, I enjoy soldering :D. The nice thing about the one I ordered is that it has a delay for stop and go so it doesn't just flash every time you hit your brakes. http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=181

I just ordered a universal one. I didn't really want to pay an extra $15 to save 10 minutes. Besides, I enjoy soldering :D. The nice thing about the one I ordered is that it has a delay for stop and go so it doesn't just flash every time you hit your brakes. http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=181

That delay sounds like a really nice feature.
One thing I like about the no-cut though, is it can be easily removed, leaving no evedance if you sell your bike (although you should never sell your bike).

Well, for $20, I doubt I'd remove it when I sell the bike. It would probably be an added incentive for the next owner to not have to install. Altho I could always just remove it and resolder 1 wire. Not a big deal either way ;).

Here's a demo, it works fine with incan bulbs!

i'm sold :)

My unit is no-cut and adjustable flash duration. $25 US shipping included, shipping to India, Canada extra.

Here's a demo, it works fine with incan bulbs!


Thats exactly how long I'm interested in modulating my brake light! At this point, I wouldn't mind purchasing another brake light modulator just to get the timing right. Where did you purchase your no-cut modulator? I tried searching for it ...with no luck.


On a side note, I would still be interested in changing the original brake light modulator if anyone had an ideas;


I am pleased with this product as well as it has served me well this past riding season, although there is one thing I was interested in changing; that is the flash speed/frequency of the modulator.

Does anyone know of any way to either reduce the number of flashes, or speed up the flash time to reduce the overall 'modulated time' of the brake light? At this point the modulator flashes 5 times, and my understanding is that if you cut the green wire, it doubles its flash frequency to 10 times. I am interested in making the modulator flash fewer times (2 or 3), or reduce time interval between flashed in order to reduce the overall modulated time.

I wouldn't mind hacking up the cables in order to attach any electronic 'devices' (resistors, capacitors etc.) although I have just about zero knowledge regarding any actual electrical components (what they do and how they behave...).


If anyone thinks it can be done, I am willing to try :)

Where did you purchase your no-cut modulator? I tried searching for it ...with no luck.


It's my own design, a company makes the PC boards for me and I get the connectors from Eastern Beaver. Offshore competition makes it unprofitable to be a viable business so I just make small runs (25) for friends & a few forum members. My unit uses a relay to flash the lights instead of solid-state which gives full power to the lamp (only slightly noticeable though) and also breaks the tail light circuit to give the flash more contrast, especially with LED's.

I just ordered a universal one. I didn't really want to pay an extra $15 to save 10 minutes. Besides, I enjoy soldering :D. The nice thing about the one I ordered is that it has a delay for stop and go so it doesn't just flash every time you hit your brakes. http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=181

I went ahead and purchased a couple of these modulators as well. I'll try installing them to both bikes with different modes, one using a filament bulb (the 2357LL in the stock rear) and the other using an LED rear tail light, and (I'll try to) record it to show you guys how they look.

I also want to mention that 3rdbrakeflasher (http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=181&zenid=bf706944287d12327f8fa7728b5ab6ac) managed to ship my order only a few hours after it had been processed which is very impressive!

I bought two of the No-Cut Modulators last year... Been having no issues with them, or the bulbs. :thumbup:

I went ahead and purchased a couple of these modulators as well. I'll try installing them to both bikes with different modes, one using a filament bulb (the 2357LL in the stock rear) and the other using an LED rear tail light, and (I'll try to) record it to show you guys how they look.

I also want to mention that 3rdbrakeflasher (http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=181&zenid=bf706944287d12327f8fa7728b5ab6ac) managed to ship my order only a few hours after it had been processed which is very impressive!

I got mine yesterday and installed it. The instructions supplied are for a 2 wire system and we have a 3 wire system. What you want to do is splice into the blue wire and leave the red one alone.

Simple wiring schematic:

Blue wire from bike----><----- Red wire from unit| Yellow wire from unit ----> Blue wire to bulb

Use the quick tap to connect the black wire from unit to the black/yellow wire from the bike.

Then just follow the instructions to set your mode. I pulled the bulb harness out and soldered the unit to that instead of attaching it to the bike's harness. I'm happy with the results and saved some good money. I will say that I soldered the points tho. I really dislike crimp connectors.

This is a mod I would be interested in doing. There have been quite a few people who have been adding the kits that they purchased along this thread. Is it still a consensus that the original nocut kit for $30 after shipping is the best bet? I don't mind doing a little splicing if need be

This is a mod I would be interested in doing. There have been quite a few people who have been adding the kits that they purchased along this thread. Is it still a consensus that the original nocut kit for $30 after shipping is the best bet? I don't mind doing a little splicing if need be

Depends on what you mean by best bet? The one I have works great and cost $20 shipped. It also got shipped really fast.

I got mine yesterday and installed it. The instructions supplied are for a 2 wire system and we have a 3 wire system. What you want to do is splice into the blue wire and leave the red one alone.

Simple wiring schematic:

Blue wire from bike----><----- Red wire from unit| Yellow wire from unit ----> Blue wire to bulb

Use the quick tap to connect the black wire from unit to the black/yellow wire from the bike.

Then just follow the instructions to set your mode. I pulled the bulb harness out and soldered the unit to that instead of attaching it to the bike's harness. I'm happy with the results and saved some good money. I will say that I soldered the points tho. I really dislike crimp connectors.

I got these in the mail yesterday and I'm very impressed! This thing is very compact; the chip is about the same size as a US/Canadian quarter.

The wiring was also very simple, exactly how you described it. Even though all that was required was a little soldering, I decided to wire it in through the use of OEM-style connectors purchased from Eastern Beaver (http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/110_Connectors/110_connectors.html). I also installed some bullet connectors so I can plug in my Rear LED Strips I purchased from Oznium (http://www.oznium.com/thin-waterproof-ribbon).

Most importantly, I was very happy with the flasher modes! Out of 37 different modes, I found a few that I personally thought were perfect. I would say that for the price, this unit is definitely worth buying and installing.

At this point in time, I actually don't know what to do with my No Cut Brake Lamp Modulator (http://www.nocutmodulators.com/)... I may try to sell it locally for $20.

I'm very pleased, and I will soon have it completely wired up to my bike. :thumbup:

Awesome. If I had known about that website, I would have also used some oem connectors.

Has anyone recently ordered the modulator from the original link Alex posted?

http://www.nocutmodulators.com

Just want to make sure they are up to date and still selling them.

I naturally pulse the brakes when stopping, mostly to warn people behind me. If I'm sitting at a light on a flat enough road I usually click my brake lever on and off.

Also does anyone have headlight modulators?

Has anyone recently ordered the modulator from the original link Alex posted?

http://www.nocutmodulators.com

Just want to make sure they are up to date and still selling them.

I naturally pulse the brakes when stopping, mostly to warn people behind me. If I'm sitting at a light on a flat enough road I usually click my brake lever on and off.

Also does anyone have headlight modulators?

I bought mine from that link about 6 months ago. Work great.

I bought mine from that link about 6 months ago. Work great.

Awesome thanks, just ordered!

I purchased 2 (one for my 250, one for wifes 250) from same guy, Ace-at-mind on eBay, CLICK HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NO-CUT-Brake-Lamp-Modulator-Ninja-250-250R-all-years-/170473254769?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b0ff6f71).

Super fast shipping from 100% seller.

:thumbup:

I purchased 2 (one for my 250, one for wifes 250) from same guy, Ace-at-mind on eBay, CLICK HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NO-CUT-Brake-Lamp-Modulator-Ninja-250-250R-all-years-/170473254769?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item27b0ff6f71).

Super fast shipping from 100% seller.

:thumbup:

would you believe he's a ninjette member? :)
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/member.php?u=120

Has anyone recently ordered the modulator from the original link Alex posted?

http://www.nocutmodulators.com

Just want to make sure they are up to date and still selling them.

I naturally pulse the brakes when stopping, mostly to warn people behind me. If I'm sitting at a light on a flat enough road I usually click my brake lever on and off.

Also does anyone have headlight modulators?

There was a recent "no-cut modulator" group buy/ride in Cali that was done in February. They ordered from that same site. I got mine from there as well, but that was almost a year ago.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64827

There was a recent "no-cut modulator" group buy/ride in Cali that was done in February. They ordered from that same site. I got mine from there as well, but that was almost a year ago.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64827

Thanks, yeah I ordered it last night and I already received a shipping confirmation! Can't wait to get it and install it. Estimated delivery is the 16th!

Thanks, yeah I ordered it last night and I already received a shipping confirmation! Can't wait to get it and install it. Estimated delivery is the 16th!

The install is really easy. The hardest part is getting the seat back on. :)

would you believe he's a ninjette member? :)
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/member.php?u=120

Nice!! :thumbup:

The install is really easy. The hardest part is getting the seat back on. :)

Haha, that damn seat is always so hard to get on! I'm getting my cowl in this week too! :D Lots of parts on the way

I got mine into today, it literally took 2 seconds to install....putting on the seat WAS the hardest part. It seems to work awesome!

Great seller, quick shipping, excellent product!

Got mine a couple of weeks ago. Great mod, especially with a 2357LL tail-light. Works as advertised, fast shipping. Would buy again, if I had more than one tail-light. :D

subscribed to the thread for later use! I am definitely getting this. One for me and one for the gf.

subscribed to the thread for later use! I am definitely getting this. One for me and one for the gf.

If you can do any sort of wire splicing/soldering, then I HIGHLY recommend the 3rdbrakeflasher (http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=181&zenid=bf706944287d12327f8fa7728b5ab6ac) modulator.

Between the two, they both get the job done, though 3rdbrakeflasher (http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=181&zenid=bf706944287d12327f8fa7728b5ab6ac) allows you to set the flasher speed/count to your liking. I decided to purchase two considering the low sale price (one for myself, the other for my GF), and they both work perfectly.



As I said earlier:

At this point in time, I actually don't know what to do with my No Cut Brake Lamp Modulator... I may try to sell it locally for $20.

No Cut Modulators are no longer for sale.
What do we do now? I need a modulator :(

No Cut Modulators are no longer for sale.
What do we do now? I need a modulator :(

Between the two, they both get the job done, though 3rdbrakeflasher (http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=181&zenid=bf706944287d12327f8fa7728b5ab6ac) allows you to set the flasher speed/count to your liking.

I can send you mine if you would like...all you have to do is cover the shipping charges. PM me your address and I'll see how much it costs...then you can see whether it would be worth it (I'm located in Canada, so it MAY cost more than expected especially with Canada Post being on strike)

You could even Paypal me the money after you receive it :thumbup:

Just trying to help a fellow member.

Someone needs to make some more. I need one now too

Word.

There's probably another thread about this somewhere already. Just need to search around...

does anyone have a video demonstration of this product in action.. im curious to see the flash rate.

Someone needs to make some more. I need one now too

Word.

There's probably another thread about this somewhere already. Just need to search around...

Why not just get the flasher unit from www.3rdbrakeflasher.com (http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=181&zenid=bf706944287d12327f8fa7728b5ab6ac)? Don't want to splice into the original wiring?

Ouch. That sucks. You could order oem type connectors from easternbeaver.com and wire it up. Only bad thing is the $20 minimum purchase. If there's enough interest, after I'm done with the group buy on the LED blinkers, I could make a P&P kit using the 3rdbrakeflasher.com kit.

does anyone have a video demonstration of this product in action.. im curious to see the flash rate.

Video is from the Socal group buy so all the ninjas here have them and you can see the flash rates. The Green ninja has a smoke lens so it's not normally that dark unless you also have a smoked lens.

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Video is from the Socal group buy so all the ninjas here have them and you can see the flash rates. The Green ninja has a smoke lens so it's not normally that dark unless you also have a smoked lens.

niiice.. great vid cuong! the green ninjas tails are a little difficult to see. i hope theyre not that dark in person. any vids of the blinking on leds tails?

oh and btw, what camera setup are u running? picture quality and sound are great!

Id definitely be in for a group buy. hopefully others are too

Here ya go: http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?p=306654#post306654

i was looking into these. my friend has a honda they came with one. it's an LED taillight and it has 3 super fast flashes and then goes solid. super bright! think 3 flash bulbs going off in a row in less than half a second.

anything out there like this for the 250r?

Here is the OEM tail light connector on eBay for $4.08 shipped. I bought one and wired myself up a no-cut flasher with the programmable one from 3rdbrakeflasher.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290219650652&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3AOU%3AUS%3A1123

(If the eBay link is dead by the time you read this, the sellers name is rnscooters and the auction is entitled "3 Pin Modular Connector / Scooter / ATV / Motorcycle.")

Perhaps a replacement blinker here (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?p=465814&postcount=7).

ZOFNKoMPeuU

I gotta say, smoking the rear brake light is one of the most ridiculous and foolish things you can do to your motorcycle; as if being on a motorcycle wasn't dangerous enough with other road users having difficulty seeing us...

(just to be clear, by "you" I don't mean Cuongism, but rather the any rider)

A forum member is selling a new version of a rear brake flasher (plug and play) in this thread:

New Brake Light Modulators for sale (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105388)

Thanks Alex :) :thumbup:

Thanks CThunder-blue; I'm just noticing all the fantastic custom electrical stuff you're offering. Very nice indeed.

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I want to install a brake light flasher and was wondering if anyone knew of a good plug in one instead of a cut and solder one? My father has one that goes in between his brake light plug and it works awesome. No need to cut and splice. These links in this original thread are all dead now.

I don't know anything about this company but this one is a plug and play. Seems pretty good and very customizable.

http://www.vizi-tec.com/supabrake-3-kawasaki/