The levers for the EX500 will fit my pre gen correct??? If so, I think I'll get a set from the2wheels... Anyone have these on their pre gen???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Folding-Foldable-Levers-Kawasaki-GPZ500S-EX500R-Ninja-/290519829798?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a454cd26

The levers for the EX500 will fit my pre gen correct???

where did you get that info? :confused:

I found it here at 250.org wiki

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/I_want_adjustable_clutch_%26_brake_levers

If you can't find a good hand position via the clutch cable adjusters, then you can replace the perch and lever with an adjustable model. The easiest way is to stay with Kawasaki parts. You can install one from an EX500.

do you already have a clutch perch from an ex500?

Not fully positive, but won't you still need a ex500 perch? The2wheels only sells the levers without the perch.

Edit: haha Kelly, you type too fast!

I hope someone will tell me what I need to make this work... Anyone have them on their pre gen???

you would need a clutch perch from an ex500 to make these levers work on your ninja 250.

I did the ex500 swap on my 250 and it was cake! I think I had a total of $80 into it including levers and the perch.
The brake lever swaps right over. And the perches are easy enough to swap. There's a bushing the original ex500 clutch lever comes with that you will need to put into the new clutch lever. You'll probably have to break off the old perch if you don't want to take off the bar ends/controls. Then the new one just bolts right into place. Here's what everything looked like:

http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/vince_2149/07%20Ninja%20250/Levers/P9050013.jpg

http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/vince_2149/07%20Ninja%20250/Levers/P9050011.jpg

http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/vince_2149/07%20Ninja%20250/Levers/P9160026.jpg

That looks very good... Where did you get the levers???

The levers for the EX500 will fit my pre gen correct??? If so, I think I'll get a set from the2wheels... Anyone have these on their pre gen???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Folding-Foldable-Levers-Kawasaki-GPZ500S-EX500R-Ninja-/290519829798?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a454cd26

The easiest way to make sure is to check cheap cycle parts (they cross reference their parts) and also email the2wheel. Someone else asked about new levers fitting on the New gens.

From what I can tell the levers offered by the2wheel that would fit the 2007 EX250 also fit; 87-91 EX500, 89-95 ZXR750, & 85-90 ZX600

That looks very good... Where did you get the levers???

Thanks. I picked mine up from Auctmarts on ebay. They had the best deal ($60 shipped) at the time.
And I was wrong in my original post, the bushing you need to swap over is from the original ex500 clutch lever to the new clutch lever. That's why I bought the whole clip-on with everything on it.

From what I can tell the levers offered by the2wheel that would fit the 2007 EX250 also fit; 87-91 EX500, 89-95 ZXR750, & 85-90 ZX600

Fit without the EX500 perch???

Fit without the EX500 perch???

Yes. According to Cheap Cycle Parts, it's the same lever.

http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/products/412857-kawasaki-46092-1103-hard-parts-lever-grip-clutch

http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/products/412865-kawasaki-46092-1117-hard-parts-lever-grip-front-brake

Yes. According to Cheap Cycle Parts, it's the same lever.

http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/products/412857-kawasaki-46092-1103-hard-parts-lever-grip-clutch

http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/products/412865-kawasaki-46092-1117-hard-parts-lever-grip-front-brake

Thanks... I hope they work, I'll send an email to the2wheel to confirm...

I got a reply from the2wheel...
"I'm sorry, the levers for your bike is not available right now."

I wanted those because they were extendable...

The easiest way to do this (and the ONLY way for the clutch side) is buy the clutch perch for an EX500 (more recent the better, like 98 - 08). The brake lever fits fine. And don't get caught up in the model number game. The 06-08 Ninja 650 uses the same levers as the 98-08 500, so yo ucan also buy the clutch perch from an 06-08 650. So if the seller says the levers will fit an 06-08 (NOT 09-11) 650 then you're golden.

The easiest way to do this (and the ONLY way for the clutch side) is buy the clutch perch for an EX500 (more recent the better, like 98 - 08). The brake lever fits fine. And don't get caught up in the model number game. The 06-08 Ninja 650 uses the same levers as the 98-08 500, so yo ucan also buy the clutch perch from an 06-08 650. So if the seller says the levers will fit an 06-08 (NOT 09-11) 650 then you're golden.

Thanks...

Will this work on my 07 ninja???

http://www.gdlcycles.com/asp1/modetails.asp?ItemID=194-5273

If yes, what do I ask the2wheel for to fit after I get the new perch??? A setup for the ex500???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280612506103&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

No mod needed for the brake side???

Thank you...

You'll need the bushing that's in the original ex500 clutch lever. Otherwise the clutch lever will be extremely loose. It's loose as it is. That's why it's best to just buy the whole ex500 clutch setup as a unit so you save money. Not sure if the ex250 clutch bushing will work, didn't chance it when I did the conversion.

The brake just fits right on.

When you say the whole setup??? This???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2003-Kawasaki-Ninja-EX-500R-250R-Clutch-Lever-Handle-/120689959176?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c19aea108

Precisely. Or something like what I was able to pick up for $20 that included the useless left clip-on, haha. Just whatever comes w/ the perch and lever and you can get the cheapest.

Ok, I think I have all the info I need to get this done... You guys are a big help, I'll keep you posted...

I have to get my new tires mounted before I order the levers...

If you run into any specific issues, just send me a pm and I'll try to help.

If you run into any specific issues, just send me a pm and I'll try to help.

Big 10-4 on that... Thanks

Those blue ones look sharp. May have to do this.

vince..get you get the adjustable levers for the ex500 ?

Are these the ones you ordered :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Clutch-Brake-Levers-Kawazaki-GPZ500S-EX500R-Ninja-90-09-/280702478082?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415b2be702

Please let me know

vince..get you get the adjustable levers for the ex500 ?

Are these the ones you ordered :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Clutch-Brake-Levers-Kawazaki-GPZ500S-EX500R-Ninja-90-09-/280702478082?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415b2be702

Please let me know

replied to your PM.

So Ninja 650R Brake levers fit the 250 pregen master cylinder ?

Seems like that might be an easy find...

Vincent helped me make sure I get the right thing. You'll need an ex500 clutch perch, and then get levers for an ex500.

If you look at the parts diagrams (http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/products/412865-kawasaki-46092-1117-hard-parts-lever-grip-front-brake), ninja 500's, concourses, and some ninja 600's use the same lever as the 250 on the brake side. Since those are for sure the same part, it makes more sense to buy levers that work with an ex500.

I bought an ex500 perch and some ex500 shorty levers from the2wheels. I'll post up some pictures once they're installed :)

The easiest way to do this (and the ONLY way for the clutch side) is buy the clutch perch for an EX500 (more recent the better, like 98 - 08). The brake lever fits fine. And don't get caught up in the model number game. The 06-08 Ninja 650 uses the same levers as the 98-08 500, so yo ucan also buy the clutch perch from an 06-08 650. So if the seller says the levers will fit an 06-08 (NOT 09-11) 650 then you're golden.

This is why I was asking about the Ninja 650 stuff. Plus it has more modern looking shiny levers instead of boring black levers...

This is why I was asking about the Ninja 650 stuff. Plus it has more modern looking shiny levers instead of boring black levers...

plenty of options for shiny levers (http://stores.ebay.com/The2Wheels/_i.html?_nkw=ex500&submit=Search&_sid=971191613) for the ninja 500R as well :rolleyes:

Not as cheap or as common as used 650 parts.. So I guess I'm back to where I started...

Very cheap. Very common. Check ebay. My perch was off an '08 and was $20 shipped. Even if you buy the perch new, it's only $40.

besides, there's more ex500's in existence than 650's. Therefore, more common and more available. Just check ebay. You'll find plenty of parts from both bikes for cheap. but it is KNOWN that the 500R brake lever works on the ex250, so that's why I suggested it.

Just borrowed my buddies 650R for the afternoon....

I then borrowed his levers and stuff after that.

Guess what fits;)

so its confirmed...06-08 650R levers and perches fit!

Cool discovery!

Hows the clutch lever fit?

You need the clutch lever perch just like with the EX500 stuff.

Just borrowed my buddies 650R for the afternoon....

I then borrowed his levers and stuff after that.

Guess what fits;)

so its confirmed...06-08 650R levers and perches fit!

Actually, it was confirmed when I said it the first time, but I won't split hairs.

Actually, it was confirmed when I said it the first time, but I won't split hairs.

I tried double confirming but I guess you arent on much( not that anything is wrong with that!!!!)

So I'll correct it...

it is DOUBLE confirmed that Ninja 650 levers fit(and look better that ex500 junk)

(and look better that ex500 junk)

just wait till my shorties come in ;)

just wait till my shorties come in ;)

Photos please...:)

Will do, but The2wheels shorted me by a lever. They said they would send my clutch lever, but I've yet to see it. It's been almost another month already... I'm getting worried.

I ordered shorties from the2wheels as well for my 99'.

i ordered levers for the 08'+ :bash:
have no idea why i was thinking they would work when it would have been posted here if they did.

the clutch lever fits but the brake lever kinda sticks, which is kinda dangerous as sometimes you can't brake as hard as you want to :thumbup:
also i broke that safety switch plunger on the clutch when putting the new lever on :rolleyes:
this may have affected fitment but it has worked perfectly otherwise so w/e...

just a heads up, try to order a 500 brake lever and a 08'+ clutch lever and it might possibly be a direct swap. no perch change needed.

Can someone explain the appeal/need for folding levers?

I ordered shorties from the2wheels as well for my 99'.

i ordered levers for the 08'+ :bash:
have no idea why i was thinking they would work when it would have been posted here if they did.

the clutch lever fits but the brake lever kinda sticks, which is kinda dangerous as sometimes you can't brake as hard as you want to :thumbup:
also i broke that safety switch plunger on the clutch when putting the new lever on :rolleyes:
this may have affected fitment but it has worked perfectly otherwise so w/e...

just a heads up, try to order a 500 brake lever and a 08'+ clutch lever and it might possibly be a direct swap. no perch change needed.

I'm going to go try the clutch lever from my newgen on the pregen to confirm this. Thanks!

Can someone explain the appeal/need for folding levers?

Comfort.

OK, the clutch lever does indeed seem to be a direct swap between EX250J/K and EX250F. The only notable difference other than the pregen lever having ugly knuckle nubs is that the pin it pivots on goes through and threads into the perch on a pregen and a loose nut on the underside with the newgen. The pin is the same size except for the threaded tip, so they fit either lever. If you lost the pregen pin and had a newgen one, it still extends out the bottom to thread the nut on because the threaded part is a smaller diameter.

Edit: OK. I've been told that the perch is threaded on the newgen too and the nut just locks it into the perch so it won't back out of those threads. Makes sense. Regardless, the pins will not thread into eachother's perches. If the pregen pin protrudes enough from the perch for a nut, I'm probably simply missing mine.

I finally sent The2Wheels a message demanding either a damn clutch lever or a refund because I have no second lever... Ugh. :mad:
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Can someone explain the appeal/need for folding levers?

Comfort.

There are 2 things here; Adjustable and Folding

Adjustable levers address lever distance from the bar which helps with comfort, hand size and ultimately move the friction zone closer to where the rider wants it

Folding levers do exactly that, they fold up to prevent breaking in case the bike falls/goes down

There are 2 things here; Adjustable and Folding

Adjustable levers address lever distance from the bar which helps with comfort, hand size and ultimately move the friction zone closer to where the rider wants it

Folding levers do exactly that, they fold up to prevent breaking in case the bike falls/goes down


AH ok the latter answers my question. Adjustable makes sense but I never thought of folding ones...

Why not add more free play to clutch lever? It seems to me to do essentially the same thing- the clutch cable is actuated when the lever is closer to the handle bar.

If you put in adjustable levers, you can adjust the lever free play to the OEM specification, but any extra distance in pull to ensure the clutch is fully disengaged is negated by the reduced travel setting. In essence, the cable actuates the same distance as if you had added more free play.

The downside is that there is an extra distance the lever can travel after it is released. There are rumors of rattling levers, but that does not seem to occur on my bike.

So... Am I wrong?

Why not add more free play to clutch lever? It seems to me to do essentially the same thing- the clutch cable is actuated when the lever is closer to the handle bar.

If you put in adjustable levers, you can adjust the lever free play to the OEM specification, but any extra distance in pull to ensure the clutch is fully disengaged is negated by the reduced travel setting. In essence, the cable actuates the same distance as if you had added more free play.

The downside is that there is an extra distance the lever can travel after it is released. There are rumors of rattling levers, but that does not seem to occur on my bike.

So... Am I wrong?

My lever rattles like a mofo. I keep mine insanely loose though. I thought it was coming from my engine the whole time.

Pics of above stated install?

Pics of above stated install?

This^^^

I bought a '92 ex500 perch and a '05 ex500 clutch and brake lever from the 2 wheels shop. This is fine right? Does the brake lever work w/ the 250 w/out any additional parts needed?

You need a perch from the '94+ model ex500.
http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/I_want_adjustable_clutch_%26_brake_levers

Read the thread. All the info has been posted.

From earlier in the thread:

I did the ex500 swap on my 250 and it was cake! I think I had a total of $80 into it including levers and the perch.
The brake lever swaps right over. And the perches are easy enough to swap. There's a bushing the original ex500 clutch lever comes with that you will need to put into the new clutch lever. You'll probably have to break off the old perch if you don't want to take off the bar ends/controls. Then the new one just bolts right into place. Here's what everything looked like:

http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/vince_2149/07%20Ninja%20250/Levers/P9050013.jpg

http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/vince_2149/07%20Ninja%20250/Levers/P9050011.jpg

http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/vince_2149/07%20Ninja%20250/Levers/P9160026.jpg

Hmmm, the perch said it was a '92 thru '05 I think so I hope it works. :idunno: