View Full Version : Too soon for a track school?
wtfbuck March 28th, 2011, 12:08 PM I was hoping to get some input from you veteran riders. I want to go do the track school at Jennings here in FL. My question, is it ever too early to go do this? I've done the BRC and have only 600 miles of riding under my belt. But i'm itching to go to a track. Eventual regular track days are the whole reason I got started in motorcycling.
So will this track school be a benefit to me this early or should I wait until I've gotten more experience.
Thanks for the help.
Nemesis March 28th, 2011, 12:19 PM Never too early IMHO.
Street riding and tracking is completely different. In the sense that street riding requires more survival skills than cornering skills. But a lot of what you learn on the track can be transferred to the streets (i.e. cornering).
kkim March 28th, 2011, 12:24 PM I'd say if you are comfortable on the basics of operating a motorcycle (shifting, clutch, brakes, etc.), you'll be fine at a track school, no matter how little miles you have under your belt.
In fact, I think that would be the best training you could get from a learning to ride standpoint. Start early and avoid having to unlearn bad habits.
wtfbuck March 28th, 2011, 12:27 PM Perfect, these are the exact answers I wanted to hear. Thanks guys.
caps March 28th, 2011, 12:32 PM hey can you tell me more about the school?
wtfbuck March 28th, 2011, 12:39 PM I haven't done too much research yet but the website says its a 7 rider max group on the track at a time with an instructor. And hopefully they give you feedback and training all at the same time.
Looks like its 250 bucks. Pretty expensive but I think thats worth paying for a noob like me.
Heres the link.
http://www.jenningsgp.com/trackschool.htm
They have one coming up april 15th that I may try to attend.
CC Cowboy March 28th, 2011, 12:44 PM Go for it!
Best training you can get is on the track. Jennings is a great track. Motorcycles only, so the track is in great shape.
kkim March 28th, 2011, 12:56 PM Looks like its 250 bucks. Pretty expensive but I think thats worth paying for a noob like me.
sounds to me like a bargain and money well spent! :thumbup:
jstrain March 29th, 2011, 06:01 AM Good luck with it! I just did 3 back to back track days at Jennings in February. It is a super fun track with the 250. I brought an Aprilia down with me, but borrowed a friend's 250 for a bunch of laps. Loved it so much, I got home, sold the Aprilia, and bought a 250 :D
You kinda run out of steam on the two straight sections, but they aren't super long, so it's no biggie. The back turns (5-12) are tight and the 250 gives you a TON of freedom to pick lines because its so light and flickable.
I think one of the biggest benefits of visiting the track is that it really allows you to get a feel for what the bike can do in a much safer environment than you can ever find on the street. Enjoy it!
JS73 March 29th, 2011, 06:32 AM It's never too soon. I suggest you sign up for their Novice Day, it is a great way to get you introduced to track riding. The groups are very small (on purpose) to give the most instructor-student contact time.
Jennings is a great track; It's actually an instructional track. Everything is marked (corner numbers, brake points, turn in points, etc.) so you know where you are at all times.
The whole day you will go back and forth from classroom instruction to track sessions, then back to classroom for feedback, Q&As, then more insturction. They will start you from the very basics and you won't be in a position where you'll find yourself in over your head. It will do wonders for your confidence in the bike, but most importantly, in yourself as a rider.
You'll also get a certificate to do a regular track day for $100.00, normally it's $130 if you pre-register and $150 if you don't. The owner and the CRs will make your time and $ well worth it.
It's never too soon, get out there, learn, and have fun! :) Hope to see you soon at a regular track day. :thumbup:
-Joel
Peanut_EOD March 29th, 2011, 11:19 AM Go for it if you will be on your own bike. By the price I assume you won't be on the schools bikes. One thing to consider is you need to be willing to lay your bike down. It's never anyone's intention to crash, but it does happen. If you're not willing to accept that then you should not be pushing your bike to the level of track riding. If possible pick up some race bodywork prior to the school date. It's well worth the money.
kkim March 29th, 2011, 11:56 AM One thing to consider is you need to be willing to lay your bike down. It's never anyone's intention to crash, but it does happen. If you're not willing to accept that then you should not be pushing your bike to the level of track riding.
You bring up a good point... Does one's normal insurance policy cover any damage that might occur during these "instructional days". I know on a car forum I was on, it was covered as long as it was not called a "race". Does the same thing apply to bikes in this case?
Alex March 29th, 2011, 12:25 PM Pretty much. The key words in most policies are "timed event". Though, some policies have started to exclude all activities on racetracks, so it never hurts to check.
jstrain March 29th, 2011, 12:29 PM I believe my insurance uses the "timed event" nomenclature.
JS73 March 29th, 2011, 01:01 PM Here in Florida, State Farm will cover non "timed events" like track days and "instructional days/schools". Peanut_EOD made a great point, crashes do happen, think about it if you can't accept the posibility of wrecking your bike.
Speaking of Insurance, one thing worth mentioning is Health Insurance, to me this is very important. If you do not have it, you should not be on the track IMO. The bike is just parts and can wait for repairs, us riders on the other hand...
Peanut_EOD March 29th, 2011, 03:05 PM Good point on the health insurance. We are required to have medical insurance to race.
Kawi_LA March 29th, 2011, 06:33 PM Every insurance company is different but typically as long as it's not a "race" (i.e. there is no winner) then it should be covered. I have heard there are a few companies who do not cover track incidents at all though, not sure exactly which ones. Just call and they should be able tell you.
As far as the earlier question of too early, I say it's never too early as long as you're responsible and know your own limitations. You have to go out there and ride within your own comfort and make sure you have a good first experience. I first rode the track only a few months after learning to ride the bike and I think it was the best thing ever. I gradually rode the track more and more, always becoming a better rider both on the track and on the street.
Just be careful, it can become an addiction! :D
wtfbuck March 29th, 2011, 06:39 PM Awesome I have state farm insurance and I'm lucky to still be covered under my fathers health insurance due to being in school. Heres hoping I wont have to use any of it:D
wtfbuck March 29th, 2011, 06:40 PM Just be careful, it can become an addiction! :D
I want it to become an addiction. I waste too much money on a whole bunch of different things. If I could consolidate my money wasting I'd be much better off.
Peanut_EOD March 29th, 2011, 07:00 PM Once you've done a few track days you'll find that riding on the street becomes more calm and enjoyable. I find myself riding much slower and controlled on the street since I can go all out on the track.
kkim March 29th, 2011, 07:29 PM Once you've done a few track days you'll find that riding on the street becomes more calm and enjoyable. I find myself riding much slower and controlled on the street since I can go all out on the track.
which is why my advice to the members that post about "blitzing" around on the streets has always been... "take it to the track". :ride:
Peanut_EOD March 29th, 2011, 08:03 PM which is why my advice to the members that post about "blitzing" around on the streets has always been... "take it to the track". :ride:
I'm with you 100%
ithaca00 March 30th, 2011, 11:35 PM When is too early to do a track school? I hear this question a lot and it depends on the person. For me, 6am is too early but some might not think so...
"A" March 31st, 2011, 09:14 AM Never too early IMHO.
Street riding and tracking is completely different. In the sense that street riding requires more survival skills than cornering skills. But a lot of what you learn on the track can be transferred to the streets (i.e. cornering).
+1, Street riding is far more dangerous than track IMO. Too many distractions on public roads to take your attention away from learning the capabilities of your vehicle.
Once you know the capabilities of your vehicle, you are more likely to be able to get yourself out of trouble on public roads instead of slamming on the brakes when you spot trouble.
Sometimes, getting out of trouble means that you have to get off the pavement and ride it out on the grass/dirt.. that applies on the track and road. :thumbup:
oroboros March 31st, 2011, 08:07 PM I want to go to there
jstrain April 1st, 2011, 03:53 AM Sometimes, getting out of trouble means that you have to get off the pavement and ride it out on the grass/dirt.. that applies on the track and road. :thumbup:
+1. I laid down some off-road tracks coming into Turn 1 at Jennings :laugh:
"A" April 1st, 2011, 08:24 AM Rossi style passing:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/cat0020/Motorcycling/Rossi_Stoner_corkscrew.jpg
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