I really tried to live with the stock rear fender. My plan was to leave this bike as close to stock as feasible. But, putting the bike up on a rear stand was challenging because the darned fender was so long that it interferes with the Pit Bull handle, and it needs to be bent out of the way to lift the bike. Or, it takes 2 people to do it, one to straighten up the bike and the other to carefully put the stand under the spools.

Not liveable. So, I took my handy-dandy hacksaw, removed the license plate, and sliced it cleanly off behind the plate. I managed to keep it pretty clean and level. I was worried it would look terrible, but the functionality was needed for me. Turns out that it looks fine (and now works fine). No need to buy a fender eliminator kit as far as I can tell, and with the new seat cowl that we just added, I'm perfectly happy with how the rear of the bike looks. I love this little ninjette.

Finally got a pic of the result:

http://www.ciurczak.com/photos/355779139_u8fpS-L-1.jpg

Looks like you only removed the tip of the tail, right? Held a reflector at the bottom? I think the only reason Kawasaki had the fender extended so low was because in some states a rear red reflector is required to be in a certain spot.

Looks good man! Still has a factory look. I don't like complete fender removal. As a matter of fact, I just ordered a factory fender for my 07. I cut the original about 2 days after I got the bike. Did not completely remove it, but I realize how valuable it is in wet weather.

Yup, I just took the end off (from about halfway in the middle of the license plate). Here's what it used to look like:

http://www.ciurczak.com/photos/303065940_4EMSr-L.jpg

With that rear reflector gone, it probably is a little less than legal, but if it's a concern you can pick up red reflective license plate bolts to meet the regulations.

good looking fix, the stock mudguard looked hideous:thumbup:

Thanks to HKr1 and kkim, here's mine. VA requires a white license plate light, so 4 little leds. If you need more examples, PM me.

Thanks to HKr1 and kkim, here's mine.

Glad we could help :D

I had showed pics to the wife, asked her what she liked best. She picked completely gone...... So we went to work :)

L Bracket is up to personal preff for plate location :thumbup:

Thanks to HKr1 and kkim, here's mine. VA requires a white license plate light, so 4 little leds. If you need more examples, PM me.

lol... I deserve no credit. :D

When I decided to chop mine, I read HKr1's post and copied it to the letter. Credit should go fully to Kerry... and also, when something goes wrong because of it, he's fully to blame, too! :happy130:

I really tried to live with the stock rear fender. My plan was to leave this bike as close to stock as feasible. But, putting the bike up on a rear stand was challenging because the darned fender was so long that it interferes with the Pit Bull handle, and it needs to be bent out of the way to lift the bike. Or, it takes 2 people to do it, one to straighten up the bike and the other to carefully put the stand under the spools.

Not liveable. So, I took my handy-dandy hacksaw, removed the license plate, and sliced it cleanly off behind the plate. I managed to keep it pretty clean and level. I was worried it would look terrible, but the functionality was needed for me. Turns out that it looks fine (and now works fine). No need to buy a fender eliminator kit as far as I can tell, and with the new seat cowl that we just added, I'm perfectly happy with how the rear of the bike looks. I love this little ninjette.

Thanks Alex, I use a pit bull stand just like yours and have been cursing that fender as well. I'm going to follow your lead on this one. :thumbup:

I have the same as you Alex. It really cleans up the rear of the bike and I think it makes the fender much less noticeable in person.

Here's a pic

I cut the bottom 4" off the fender and added a square reflector that is not as chinzy as the stock one. I rounded the whole thing off with a file, and it looks quite decent.

Here is my fender mod.

Before:
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2820/50544707ml8.jpg

The Cut:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6162/30425980zv6.jpg

After:
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/103/32829542sr8.jpg

Plate-light
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/7097/34688448vp3.jpg

Plate-light and rear-light
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7994/98368494ki7.jpg

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2927/69206181yp1.jpg

I made two 5mm holes in the black rear-light frame, used two Ultrabright white LED's as plate light.

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8066/68497944pr6.jpg

jep, did mine almost the same way, exept i bought a little led plate light, but pretty cool that you fab'ed your own=)

from under.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/pso0007/DSC00785.jpg

and another sorry it was a little quick, but you can see nothing hanging down other than the plate.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/pso0007/DSC00825.jpg

jep, did mine almost the same way, exept i bought a little led plate light, but pretty cool that you fab'ed your own=)

nice. I see you have the FI bike aswell :D

This cut, were you keep the signal-light frames, is the best looking in my opinion.

Yep From Denmark=) damn its cold here by the way... why cant we all live in sunny Cali:dancecool:

why cant we all live in sunny Cali:dancecool:

:idunno: :D

... why cant we all live in sunny Cali:dancecool: ...cause not all of us want to. :D

...cause not all of us want to. :D

They kicked me out :(

They kicked me out :)

fixed that for ya! ;)

you are always welcome to move here... talk it over with the wife.

alex, your mod looks really clean and still looks stock.

could you please post a close up pic of your fender without the license plate.

interested in exactly where you cut yours. thanks.

No problem, next time I take the bike out in the sun I'll try and remember to get a pic.

Here's my Fender Mod, I wanted to keep the turn indicators but just make it nice and neat, so some work with the Dremel and here you have it!

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo29/Scorpielle/DSCN0870.jpg

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo29/Scorpielle/DSCN0872.jpg

Looks good, what did you use to mount the license plate and plate light?

Looks good, what did you use to mount the license plate and plate light?

I used the plate bracket that came stock, and then just fashioned some L brackets to hold it to the 2 large bolts underneath the tail.
And Shhhh there is no plate light right now, just the glow of the tail light. LOL

Here's my Fender Mod, I wanted to keep the turn indicators but just make it nice and neat, so some work with the Dremel and here you have it!

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo29/Scorpielle/DSCN0870.jpg

Is that an Aprilia RSV 1000?!? :eek: What a gorgeous bike...

I have the TARGA Fender Eliminator but I'm scared to take everything off the back ahaha :(

The TARGA fender mod wasn't that hard to do. Yeah you have to take everything off to do it but if you aren't handy with a Dremel than this is the way to do it.

I have the TARGA Fender Eliminator but I'm scared to take everything off the back ahaha :(

Do it! Do it! Take the leap :)

It's totally worth the work you have to do. Here's my mod. Looks decent and didn't cost a cent.

Nice job TnNinjaGirl, that about what i want to do also. I'm holding out for CLEAR ALTERNATIVES to finish up with there tail light before i clean it up in the back though.

Nice job TnNinjaGirl, that about what i want to do also. I'm holding out for CLEAR ALTERNATIVES to finish up with there tail light before i clean it up in the back though.

you dont happen to know when theyre done with the one for our 250's? :)

Is that an Aprilia RSV 1000?!? :eek: What a gorgeous bike...

LOL Yeah that's my husband's bike Aprilia RSV Factory.. needless to say I have a hard time keeping up on the Ninjette LOL
:p

I have the TARGA Fender Eliminator but I'm scared to take everything off the back ahaha :(

Do it Do it! It was fun, we had to strip the bike down to the bare bones to get all the tail off to Dremel it anyways, it was awesome!

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo29/Scorpielle/DSCN0862.jpg

It's nekkid!!

I have the TARGA Fender Eliminator but I'm scared to take everything off the back ahaha :(

That's where all the fun is at!

Scorpielle, your husband is rather lucky. And there's no need to really keep up with him, he can wait up once in a while ;)

Might have a go this weekend ;)

Its about 115 degrees Fahrenheit right now so I'm avoiding the outdoors :(

It's nekkid!!

no... this is nekkid!!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SLkSPr9unWI/AAAAAAAAAuk/yKxXXq8bjx8/s640/DSC04499-1.JPG

From the looks of it Kelly you have plenty of room in your garage for me. What gives bro?

Is the TARGA fender elim. a kit? I have never heard of it....

you dont happen to know when theyre done with the one for our 250's? :)

They say sometime in the spring of this year.

From the looks of it Kelly you have plenty of room in your garage for me. What gives bro?


lol... whenever I work on the bike, the cars live outside. :D

Might have a go this weekend ;)

Its about 115 degrees Fahrenheit right now so I'm avoiding the outdoors :(

you're 104* higher than me at the moment!

no... this is nekkid!!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SLkSPr9unWI/AAAAAAAAAuk/yKxXXq8bjx8/s640/DSC04499-1.JPG

nah - you still have the front fairing on.... you have to remove that too!

nah - you still have the front fairing on.... you have to remove that too!

:eek: What a pervert!!!

nah - you still have the front fairing on.... you have to remove that too! What about the guard over the front tyre??? :happy80:

What about the guard over the front tyre??? :happy80:

you forced me to pull one of my pics - only thing left was the rear fender and gas tank
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_DQskVeNT-_s/SXCtizVCwkI/AAAAAAAAAKM/EL__18K1wkg/s800/100_3461%20copy.jpg

^ Putting on a new pipe...?

you forced me to pull one of my pics - only thing left was the rear fender and gas tank
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_DQskVeNT-_s/SXCtizVCwkI/AAAAAAAAAKM/EL__18K1wkg/s800/100_3461%20copy.jpg Hmm, well when I get my new exhaust system, I may try and beat that, though I fear that taking all the green off will make my bike go slow while I install everything :p

^ Putting on a new pipe...?

Sadly, no. That was after my little incident.... the impact popped the can right off of the pipe :eek:

see post here for more info and pics

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?p=19456#post19456


Figures that with all the damage done, the stupid fender would be the one piece that wasn't harmed!

Noticed this cool little tail tidy over on the UK e-bay item # 400019732180

Noticed this cool little tail tidy over on the UK e-bay item # 400019732180

Yes thats nice looking. Seems like its the same material(black plastic) as the stock fender?.

I was thinking about ordering that one, but decided it was not worth the money.

if we had more of a 1:1 exchange rate, I'd be all over it! And while $1.47:£1 is great given recent exchange rates, it's still not good for these types of purchases!

if we had more of a 1:1 exchange rate, I'd be all over it! And while $1.47:£1 is great given recent exchange rates, it's still not good for these types of purchases!

You just make the cut and bracket yourself, out of the stock fender. because you have to cut to mount this tail tidy anyways. So buying this tail tidy will be like paying alot of money for a licence plate light.

I could be wrong as I haven't actually installed it yet, but I have it sitting in front of me right now. It comes with very detailed instructions and there is no mention of cutting.
Its a very slick piece and the integrated LED number plate light is very nice too.

There's some photos of it in my public album.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=32&pictureid=276

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=32&pictureid=275

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=32&pictureid=274

DIY coming as soon as kawasaki get their ass in gear and deliver my bike

i stand corrected. ;) that looks like a no-cut fender. thats weird, i asked the seller on ebay if it were no-cut, and if it was, i would order one. But he just referred to his webshop, and the pictures there didnt look like your pictures at all.

I ordered this one from a US shop: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Kawasaki-Ninja-250R-08-09-Tail-Kit-Fender-Eliminator-EX_W0QQitemZ160310517502QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories
Havent put it on yet though :o

Hmmm, I dunno what to say, except that mine is definitely an original RG Racing product, as I went to them directly and bought it.

The indicators on mine are different, but that's because I'm going all out for ultra bright LEDs and those are Oxford's Nano LED indicators. You wouldn't believe how something so small can be so bright...

here's a pic for a size comparison

http://www.oxprod.com/photo.php?maxx=180&id=1047

Without having actually fitted it yet, I still find it real easy to recommend this tail tidy. Alot of my friends have recommended them to me and you can just tell by looking at or holding their stuff. You should see their crash protectors up close, makes those intuitive sliders look like toothpicks.
It's quality. Even the packaging is the nuts.

If you're not sure about the product on ebay, you could try shopping from them directly

www.rg-racing.com (£87.11 + delivery charges)

or you could try

http://www.intobikes.co.uk (£87.99 + delivery charges)

DIY coming as soon as kawasaki get their ass in gear and deliver my bike

Yup, that's the whole bottom part of the fender. Gotta be the best one out there so far(for R&R) :thumbup:

looks really good! i just ordered it. to north america it costs $147.18. it is the most expensive one i have seen so far, but also seems to be the best.

looks really good! i just ordered it. to north america it costs $147.18. it is the most expensive one i have seen so far, but also seems to be the best.

Few dollars more, but you get something nice........ something you dont see on every street corner :thumbup:

I bought an overseas tidy for the r1(evotech performance), better than anything I had seen in the usa. < Now if I can just put it back on after every td...... I would stop getting tickets for no plate :rotflmao:

I used the plate bracket that came stock, and then just fashioned some L brackets to hold it to the 2 large bolts underneath the tail.
And Shhhh there is no plate light right now, just the glow of the tail light. LOL

Elle, Nice job on the fender. I went out into the garage and looked at the tail light on my 08 Ninja and wondered if a separate plate light would really be necessary. Suppose one drilled a hole in the bottom of the tail light lens and enlarged it to an oval with a Dremel and then super glued a piece of clear plastic to the inside of the tail light lens. Would not the light from the tail light illuminate the license plate? I recall that my 1956 NSU had a tail light that served two functions with a clear panel at the bottom.

Post# 185
http://www.kawiforums.com/showthread.php?t=105914&page=19
It looks like a good idea

Post# 185
http://www.kawiforums.com/showthread.php?t=105914&page=19
It looks like a good idea

What the hell is Kawi Forums :noidea:

Elle, Nice job on the fender. I went out into the garage and looked at the tail light on my 08 Ninja and wondered if a separate plate light would really be necessary. Suppose one drilled a hole in the bottom of the tail light lens and enlarged it to an oval with a Dremel and then super glued a piece of clear plastic to the inside of the tail light lens. Would not the light from the tail light illuminate the license plate? I recall that my 1956 NSU had a tail light that served two functions with a clear panel at the bottom.

That's what I was thinking, If I realllly needed the tail light I'd just do that, but since I haven't done any night riding I'll wait and see. But that's exactly what I had in mind! ;)

You guys haven't seen the pre-08's? Not sure about the EX but the LP light on the ZZR is setup exactly to what you're referring to... The underside of the rear brake light is clear and shines a yellow light onto the LP. The rear fenders on the pre-08's look ALOT better IMO... not sure why they changed it :confused:

but i can post pics if you want.

looks really good! i just ordered it. to north america it costs $147.18. it is the most expensive one i have seen so far, but also seems to be the best.

wow. i ordered it this past sunday and it is here already. that is pretty good considering it came from england to hawaii. looks like a high quality piece.

but.... the instructions don't have many pictures and there are a whole turd load of screws and washers. kind of scary, but i guess it can't be TOO hard (famous last words).

got a project for tomorrow. :thumbup:

Hey guys, just wanted to show you another fender elminator. This one does call for come cutting and what not, but it cleaned up the back SO much! :thumbup:

i was looking at my stock fender. it was dark, but the tie hooks are attached to the fender portion that gets removed huh? that is junk. i would think it would be hard to run a tail bag without it.

i was looking at my stock fender. it was dark, but the tie hooks are attached to the fender portion that gets removed huh? that is junk. i would think it would be hard to run a tail bag without it.

Yup! Thats why you just remove the fender plastic, keep the stock trun sig hook brackets. One L bracket from some junk metal in the garage & done :)

Sounds easy.......Guess it would be hard for some people without a garage or tools thou.

got it installed. looks great. overall i am really happy with the end product.

however, the LED light housing doesn't stick out much and it wasn't shining on the plate as much as i wanted... most of it was hitting the top of the plate frame. i bought a clear bubble plate cover and that solved that issue. there are 4 exposed nuts in the wheel well. not too visible, but i am going to paint them with black touch-up paint to blend them in more.

the instructions.... man it sucked!!!! pretty confusing. it said to connect a piece only for me to find out that i had to take it apart again to do a later step. also, it said to refer to a picture that wasn't even there. after a while i was just winging it. got some "spare parts", but oh well.

it was a direct replacement kit. the only cutting i had to do was to cut the stock license plate light wiring. i re-used the bulb-side stock connector and wired that to the kit's light. it included the connectors and stuff.

anyways, i am done and it looks REALLY good.... i am happy. plus i found my missing (didn't even realize they were gone... or even what they were) passenger seat bumper stoppers hiding under my rear fairings. :D

hey, Gary....

:worthlesswithoutpic

He showed us a Pic of the parts left over.:D

will try to get a pic up tomorrow night. hey steve you are up late.

was going to try to do a diy, but good thing i didn't
step 4: assemble part 5 and part 6
step 5: now take apart those 2 parts and stick in part 3
step 6: NOW put part 5 and part 6 together... i hope you put in part 2 even though i forgot to mention it... because if you forgot, then take apart part 5 and 6 again.
step 7: now cut this wire and connect these two wires together
step 8: oops, no don't cut that one... i meant this one.

oh i forgot...

step 3: forget trying to use the instructions and use it as a mat to keep your butt from getting dirty.

lol... it wasn't THIS bad, but it wasn't good.

will try to get a pic up tomorrow night. hey steve you are up late.

was going to try to do a diy, but good thing i didn't
step 4: assemble part 5 and part 6
step 5: now take apart those 2 parts and stick in part 3
step 6: NOW put part 5 and part 6 together... i hope you put in part 2 even though i forgot to mention it... because if you forgot, then take apart part 5 and 6 again.
step 7: now cut this wire and connect these two wires together
step 8: oops, no don't cut that one... i meant this one.
:rofl::rotflmao:
Yes i am ...But is just about time to get to sleep:cool:

Is there a fender mod kit that does not require cutting or messing with wires? Basically a plug-n-play version?

TARGA make one :)

so here are a couple pics. it wasn't dark yet, so it is hard to get a feel for how bright the light is, but there is sufficient light using the clear plate cover.

got those exposed silver nuts that i plan on painting black.

Gary,

that should be good enough for 5-0.

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/5968/hawaii4xq.jpg

got those exposed silver nuts that i plan on painting black.

Whats the other side of them look like? You know, put them in the other way(nut up top). Or get some button heads to make them flush.

Looks nice thou! Deff way to go if you had to buy one :thumbup:

Or get some button heads to make them flush. Looks nice thou! Deff way to go if you had to buy one :thumbup:

Agreed. Looks way good, :thumbup: but some more flush bolts might clean it up ever so slightly more. And painting the bolts black is a good idea. Not to get off topic, but has anyone painted the silver fuel cap? I'm thinkin' about painting it black. Any ideas?

Whats the other side of them look like? You know, put them in the other way(nut up top). Or get some button heads to make them flush.

Looks nice thou! Deff way to go if you had to buy one :thumbup:

thanks for the compliment and suggestion. it would look definitely look cleaner if i flipped them around. i will investigate that further. i did briefly think about that initially, but then quickly dismissed and forgot about that option. it was getting dark and i just wanted to get my bike back together.

but yeah, thanks. i will try and see if that works.

Looks great Gary! Can you take a pick from further back looking directly at it? I love the close-up, but am wondering what it looks like from a few feet back....
This has topped the one that Kazam has in my book....

thanks! a direct butt view further back? ok. when i get home from work tonight i will take a pic and post it.

Is the TARGA fender elim. a kit? I have never heard of it....

Yes it is a kit. It's about $90 with shipping included. Comes with a black anodized aluminum plate to fill in the area where the stock fender is removed. You'll also have to splice the license plate LED and turn signals' wires to the stock wiring.

yeah i painted all the bolts in my fairings black, i like it.

yeah i painted all the bolts in my fairings black, i like it.

did you paint just the fairing bolts black or all the bolts on your bike? Also, how did you go about doing this?

I used the plate bracket that came stock, and then just fashioned some L brackets to hold it to the 2 large bolts underneath the tail.
And Shhhh there is no plate light right now, just the glow of the tail light. LOL

I would bet that if you took your trusty Dremel and drilled an oval hole at the bottom of your tail light and took a clear piece of plastic and super glued it over the hole on the inside, you would be perfectly legal. Did that on my Norton Cafe Racer.

This has topped the one that Kazam has in my book....
oh no! I've been outdone!:eek::(
just kidding, I take no offense (sob) But in all seriousness, that does look very nice:thumbup:, especially considering it's a good deal cheaper than mine. The integrated LP light sets this kit apart from others, it's one of few that has that feature.

Finally got a pic of the result:

http://www.ciurczak.com/photos/355779139_u8fpS-L-1.jpg

My bike has the same "fender elimination" technique. Looks good enough.

I think you need a new tire tho.

I think you need a new tire tho.

:thumbup: I think that was the last ride on the stock GT501's before switching over to Sport Demons.

Looks great Gary! Can you take a pick from further back looking directly at it? I love the close-up, but am wondering what it looks like from a few feet back....
This has topped the one that Kazam has in my book....


had my nikon d40 for a while but i still can't figure out the features, so i don't know how to take pics in low lighting. i did flip the bolts around as suggested and i think it looks great! it blends in for a more finished look. doesn't really need to be painted anymore.. idk. i still might. thanks HKr1 for the suggestion. sometimes the obvious solution needs to be pointed out by someone with a fresh pair of eyes. now i am extremely happy with this product.

my turn signals look a bit droopy in the rear shot, but that is how they were when it was stock.

I would bet that if you took your trusty Dremel and drilled an oval hole at the bottom of your tail light and took a clear piece of plastic and super glued it over the hole on the inside, you would be perfectly legal. Did that on my Norton Cafe Racer.


OHHHHHH Norton Cafe racer!! droool :eek::D

Looks great! Thanks Greg!

i did flip the bolts around as suggested and i think it looks great! it blends in for a more finished look. doesn't really need to be painted anymore.. idk.

Finished product looks really nice! Probably dont need the paint, you gotta bend over to look up under there.... :)

Good Job, & Good FE :thumbup::thumbup:

had my nikon d40 for a while but i still can't figure out the features, so i don't know how to take pics in low lighting. i did flip the bolts around as suggested and i think it looks great! it blends in for a more finished look. doesn't really need to be painted anymore.. idk. i still might. thanks HKr1 for the suggestion. sometimes the obvious solution needs to be pointed out by someone with a fresh pair of eyes. now i am extremely happy with this product.

my turn signals look a bit droopy in the rear shot, but that is how they were when it was stock.

Nice bike! go Team Black! lol. I'm thinking of getting the same fender eliminator kit. Did it come with everything you need to install it? like resistors for the LED that lights up the license plate.. :D

thanks people. :)

jhaqui, yeah the kit comes with everything you need. not sure about the resistors for the LED plate light. if there are, it is built in. if there aren't, it doesn't seem to be needed.

the only mod to the bike needed is the cutting and stripping of the stock plate light wiring. it comes with the wire connectors and even shrink wrap tubing.

if you are planning on changing out your stock rear turn signals, this would be an excellent time... but it is also designed to work with the stock signals as well.

my complaint is that the instructions were confusing to me. also, you may need to get a clear bubble plate cover. the light will hit the plate if using a regular frame, but not as well. other than that, it is a GREAT kit.

props to kerry and greg for introducing me to this kit

does anyone know if i need to have a license plate light as a law in california?

Yup, it's the law.

from: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24601.htm

License Plate Lamp
24601. Either the taillamp or a separate lamp shall be so constructed and placed as to illuminate with a white light the rear license plate during darkness and render it clearly legible from a distance of 50 feet to the rear. When the rear license plate is illuminated by a lamp other than a required taillamp, the two lamps shall be turned on or off only by the same control switch at all times.

Amended Ch. 1313, Stats. 1965. Effective September 17, 1965.

Not that I would advocate breaking the law, but how many there actually have a rear license plate light and is it strictly enforced, Alex?

Nothing's illegal until you get caught. Here in northern california, it's not uncommon for LEO's to write fix-it tickets for missing plate lights, illegal blinkers, illegal plate mount, missing reflectors, and any number of other violations. Sometimes those are written instead of the speeding ticket. Sometimes those are written in addition to whatever other ticket caused you to be pulled over. And on real bad days, sometimes they patrol the parking lots of known biker hangouts and write tickets en masse for all the violations they can find on the bikes in the lot.

There are certainly more serious things that LEO's can and do worry about, but why give them any excuse at all to hassle you? LED lights for the plate are a piece 'o cake to install if needed.

EDIT: Didn't see your second question. All of my bikes have rear plate lights, including the ones with fender eliminators. If I had to hazard a guess on how many bikes in general with eliminator kits still have plate lights, I'd probably say half. But I wouldn't recommend riding at night without one, it's like a beacon from miles away that screams "Please pull me over for a chat".

Yeah, they really mean "White Light" also < got stopped twice for Red plate lights.

Cali really sucks for vehicle violations, but most of them are just fix its. Thought there were a few you could only fix three times thou........ thinking one was exhaust? < been so long now.

You should see the stuff down here in Florida, its in there laws... But they(cops) just dont give a crap I guess. I always think these people wouldnt get 1 mile in Cali with out getting pulled over.. LOL :)

Just got done installing the Targa kit. First time taking off the rear plastics so it probably took a bit longer than it should have, about 1 hour.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/CHEESEWHiZ/2008%20Ninja%20250R/100_1706.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/CHEESEWHiZ/2008%20Ninja%20250R/100_1708.jpg

looking good!

i like that little plate LED light. pretty bright?

I haven't had it on at all during the night. :) I just made sure it worked. I'll check it out tomorrow.

Yup, it's the law.

from: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24601.htm

Thanks Alex for the info

i am wondering if anyone has tried the tagra fender elimination kit and if it is worth spending $90 on it ?

As shown in my posts above, I would highly recommend it. I definitely think it was worth the $90. Cleans it up so well, and the install is easy.

As shown in my posts above, I would highly recommend it. I definitely think it was worth the $90. Cleans it up so well, and the install is easy.

hey thanks for the reply and also i have gone ahead and ordered the tagra kit, i should receive it by tomorrow since i wanted the overnight shipping so i can work on my bike over the weekend will post pictures once i am done and also i am sure after the kit if in place it will be difficult to ride the bike in rain because the water will come all the way on the rider`s back :)

hey thanks for the reply and also i have gone ahead and ordered the tagra kit, i should receive it by tomorrow since i wanted the overnight shipping so i can work on my bike over the weekend will post pictures once i am done and also i am sure after the kit if in place it will be difficult to ride the bike in rain because the water will come all the way on the rider`s back :)
your back should be fine. if anything people behind you will get more spray from the wet roads.

As shown in my posts above, I would highly recommend it. I definitely think it was worth the $90. Cleans it up so well, and the install is easy.

Nicely done Andy, looks great :thumbup: ! I was so tempted to buy the kit the other day and I don't even have my bike yet! :o:eek: Needless to say I'm getting more and more excited (hopefully within the next 3-4 weeks I should be riding).

I liked the way Alex removed his wheele bar so that was the first mod to the new 2009 and thought I would document where the cut was made.

First the stock look :eek:

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=56&pictureid=581

I used some painters tape to decide where I wanted to make the cut and provide an easy to follow line. I decided to make the cut right where the tail narrows down.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=56&pictureid=573

Then just to be sure I remounted the plate. An old habit from when I worked construction; measure twice, cut once.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=56&pictureid=574

The surgical instrument selected by all discriminating Nina 250 Surgeons.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=56&pictureid=579

Clean up and disinfect the point of amputation with some Mother's Back-to-Black.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=56&pictureid=580

And there you have it, one tail bob, ala Alex.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=56&pictureid=581

Off topic, any one have the complete dimension for front and rear stand or any link that I can refer to.........?:p:p

Stanley -

Here are two threads on rear stands that may be useful for you:

Thread 1 (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10252)
Thread 2 (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9810)

The Cut:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6162/30425980zv6.jpg

Okay...so i got thinking today that i want to eliminate the rear fender (already did the basic cut like the very first post in the thread) I just don't like the way it sticks out with the plate light and everything on there. So......here are my thoughts....is it possible and do ya think it will work? If so I can do a DIY for it.


I want to take the fender (as pictured above) and use that as a mold for a fiberglass piece, I will drill holes in the side to incorporate 2 LED strips for blinkers. I would just paint the whole thing black. Might even be a possiblitly to do the black top piece out of fiberglass. Then I would just mount the plate with the "L" brackets like the others have done. So what do you think? Could it work?

The Cut:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6162/30425980zv6.jpg

Okay...so i got thinking today that i want to eliminate the rear fender (already did the basic cut like the very first post in the thread) I just don't like the way it sticks out with the plate light and everything on there. So......here are my thoughts....is it possible and do ya think it will work? If so I can do a DIY for it.


I want to take the fender (as pictured above) and use that as a mold for a fiberglass piece, I will drill holes in the side to incorporate 2 LED strips for blinkers. I would just paint the whole thing black. Might even be a possiblitly to do the black top piece out of fiberglass. Then I would just mount the plate with the "L" brackets like the others have done. So what do you think? Could it work?

Why fiber glass? why not carbon fiber :) j/k it should work if you know what your doing. I would love to see a DYI. Good Luck!
Also for those looking for a tail tidy, I was browsing ebay and saw a new fender eliminator kit by Mustard Bikes, don't know if anyone has ordered from them before but it looks pretty tight, Australian made.

Linkage: http://cgi.ebay.ca/Ninja-250-Fender-Eliminator-08-09-EX250R-250R-tail-tidy_W0QQitemZ200311817389QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?has h=item200311817389&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1215

Well I have some experience with fiber glass, so I think it will probably work. I am trying to keep cost down so Carbon fiber isn't an option ;) Anywho, I will probably get it all done then just throw a few coats of some good spray semi-gloss black spray paint. Anybody got any suggestions for some rear flush mounts (preferably LED')? Something small that is still bright. I will do some more searching and let you all know if I end up doing it. And If i do the DIY will be on its way.

what do you guys think about the people that put their plate inside of the wheel well. I know that is illegal but, are cops that anal? here in so. cali. its very common. thoughts?

what do you guys think about the people that put their plate inside of the wheel well. I know that is illegal but, are cops that anal? here in so. cali. its very common. thoughts?
On some bikes i like it , on our 250's with the skinny tire not so much

what do you guys think about the people that put their plate inside of the wheel well.

I think it looks really lame :) I wonder why they even bother having the plate :confused:

Oh, you asked what do we think of the "people" < there lame too :p

The Cut:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6162/30425980zv6.jpg

Okay...so i got thinking today that i want to eliminate the rear fender (already did the basic cut like the very first post in the thread) I just don't like the way it sticks out with the plate light and everything on there. So......here are my thoughts....is it possible and do ya think it will work? If so I can do a DIY for it.


I want to take the fender (as pictured above) and use that as a mold for a fiberglass piece, I will drill holes in the side to incorporate 2 LED strips for blinkers. I would just paint the whole thing black. Might even be a possiblitly to do the black top piece out of fiberglass. Then I would just mount the plate with the "L" brackets like the others have done. So what do you think? Could it work?
Why dont you just cut it like i did? thats my fender on the picture there.
No need for fabricating it all over again in fiberglass?
you can drill holes for blinkers in this aswell

you dont need L-brackets btw, you can just drill two small new holes through the plate and fender, and bolt it into place. :)

Thanks for the picture :D...couldn't figure out how to quote just the one picture, sorry.

You make a good point....although there is no huge reason as to why i don't want to do it that way....I just want something different. Fiberglass is going to be much stronger, and i really don't have anything to cut my fender where i am at (college). My buddy has everything i need for fiberglassing and said I could use it... I just think it would look good and be a bit different....if it doesn't work out i will have the stock fender to throw back on. I mean for free it is worth a shot to see how it turns out....I will debate it a bit this week and let you guys know what i decide.

You can use a knife that is heated (put it on top of the stove and heat it up) which will cut the plastic very easily.

Thanks for the picture :D...couldn't figure out how to quote just the one picture, sorry.

You make a good point....although there is no huge reason as to why i don't want to do it that way....I just want something different. Fiberglass is going to be much stronger, and i really don't have anything to cut my fender where i am at (college). My buddy has everything i need for fiberglassing and said I could use it... I just think it would look good and be a bit different....if it doesn't work out i will have the stock fender to throw back on. I mean for free it is worth a shot to see how it turns out....I will debate it a bit this week and let you guys know what i decide.

I understand. When you sand it down and paint it in black, its going to look a little better than the cut stock ones for sure(if you do not sand and repaint the stock fender, as i didnt do).

When your making it in glassfiber you could probably get rid of those stock blinkers mountings, and just drill in some new led-ones :)

That is exactly my plan!! We are thinkers over here ;)haha having trouble finding some. Know where i can get any super bright LED blinkers. I already have a plate light...

That is exactly my plan!! We are thinkers over here ;)haha having trouble finding some. Know where i can get any super bright LED blinkers. I already have a plate light...

i don't know exactly what type you are looking for, but here are some. they even sell the kawasaki oem wiring connectors so you don't have to splice any wires.

http://www.moto911.com/index.php?cPath=287&osCsid=733f845f70f984eb59218ff883d63fc3

Thanks for the post gary....I don't know exacty what I want either....And i can't find a good example to explain it. The best way i can explain it is a small strip of LED's...but one of those might work as well.

Went and bought all the fiberglassing stuff tonight...Now i just need some LED blinkers and I am set to go. I will probably fiberglass it and paint it this weekend and have it installed for sure by next weekend. If everything works out the way I plan it too. There will be a full DIY as well. Stay tuned

I think these are the LED's im gonna order for my blinkers.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/lights/motorcycle-led-light/led-light.htm

For anyone who cares....I got quite a bit done tonight fiberglassing the rear fender (using the stock one as a mold) It turned out pretty good, but needs quite a bit of work. I have a quite a few pix for the DIY which I will complete when the project is done. I am waiting tell I am done with the actual fender to make sure it turns out before I order my LED blinkers.. I will keep you updated.

For anyone who cares....I got quite a bit done tonight fiberglassing the rear fender (using the stock one as a mold) It turned out pretty good, but needs quite a bit of work. I have a quite a few pix for the DIY which I will complete when the project is done. I am waiting tell I am done with the actual fender to make sure it turns out before I order my LED blinkers.. I will keep you updated.

Awesome dude. I can't wait to see the finish product. Just curious how do you make a mold and with what? I kind of want to make stuff for my 250r too.

It's pretty simple actually, you just use the stock fender as your mold....i am not 100% positive it will work yet, but if it doesn't I will be out like 20 bucks. I have to wait for 2 weeks to order blinkers, then I can finish up and do the DIY so stay tuned. Its not perfect, but for a first....i don't think its too bad.

There are alot of good DIY cut jobs on here but personally I like the streamlined look of the FE kits. I ordered the targa, but I originally wanted the compwerkes (shipping issues). Just something about the compwerkes kit that I think gives the bike a more aggressive look. If mine would ever get here, Ill put it on and post some pics.

Here's mine...Cost about $4. I also shortened the length of the rear turn signals so they don't stick out as much.

Cali, how did you 'shorten the length' of the turn signals?

I believe she cut the stalks down so they are not as long. take a good look at yours. ;) in fact, take one of rear ones off and take it apart to see exactly how this can be done.

Would but the bike is 25 miles away, laying in pieces.

I took the signal and made four cuts with my dremel. One cut on each side to get rid of the middle portion of the light and two angled cuts (very carefully to not cut through the wires) to remove the excess portion. That left me with the shorter light stalk and the portion that is used to screw it into the tail. Then with a glue of your choice (mine was a plastic glue, but the name has slipped my mind) glue them together. Use some to hold them together overnight and your done. I hope this didn't sound too confusing.
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Finished my chop and put some led signals and plate light bolts on there. Wanted to have a semi clean tail. Still need to do some adjustments to the plate but I really like the clean side view. Here are some pics....

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9185/gedc0569.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gedc0569.jpg)
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4396/gedc0557.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gedc0557.jpg)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2041/gedc0567x.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gedc0567x.jpg)

Looks good, except for the small cut part under the brake light, but overall very clean. What kind of blinkers are those?

Finished my chop and put some led signals and plate light bolts on there. Wanted to have a semi clean tail. Still need to do some adjustments to the plate but I really like the clean side view. Here are some pics....

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9185/gedc0569.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gedc0569.jpg)
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4396/gedc0557.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gedc0557.jpg)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2041/gedc0567x.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gedc0567x.jpg)

Wow, looks great... I'd like to do the same thing (minus the plate relocation) - where'd you get those blinkers?

I think these are the LED's im gonna order for my blinkers.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/lights/motorcycle-led-light/led-light.htm


I ordered those last week, they should be here today. I hope to have them on and my fender modded by this weekend. Ill be sure to write up a report when I'm done.

PS those triangular ones above my post look badass. I will probably keep my plate right under the tail light, but my signals will be in the same place.

The signals I used are front flush signals for an R1. I just found them on ebay under "R1 flush led euro signals". If I flip my bracket around I can still mount it under the tail light. Just in case.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2866/gedc0476.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gedc0476.jpg)

The signals I used are front flush signals for an R1. I just found them on ebay under "R1 flush led euro signals". If I flip my bracket around I can still mount it under the tail light. Just in case.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2866/gedc0476.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gedc0476.jpg)

Looks great!! good job

^^^ How visible are those from behind?

The only thing stopping me from getting flush mounts on the front are the lack to options for the rear. This option looks great! Did you have to cut a hole in the tail to mount?

^^^ How visible are those from behind?

The only thing stopping me from getting flush mounts on the front are the lack to options for the rear. This option looks great! Did you have to cut a hole in the tail to mount?

They are very visible at night but on a really bright day they can be alittle hard to see. What I like is that you can also see them very well from the side. I did have to drill a hole in the tail though. I thinking about ordering another set for the front to match.

They are very visible at night but on a really bright day they can be alittle hard to see. What I like is that you can also see them very well from the side. I did have to drill a hole in the tail though. I thinking about ordering another set for the front to match.

Where you gonna do it up front?

This spot might fit the one you already have. When I saw Scorpielle's picture, I immediately thought this would be a great spot for a flushmount - where the reflection looks like a turnsig. Too bad I don't have the sack to start drilling into my baby :(

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4514/10519475.jpg

Gosh guys....I need to finish up my project. I have been way to busy with school...and now i have a job so it's just getting worse. I need to order blinkers and drill come holes and i will be good to go.

Preview:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9/ecstasyofgold/DSCN0725.jpg

More:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?p=40446#post40446

Those indicators look awesome, never seen them before! Great job on the indicators and the fender!

After over a year of owning the bike, finally did the full fender chop (previously, I just cut the bottom half)

I just used a short hacksaw. There was also some drilling of the L brackets and license plate & license plate bracket in order to get the bolts and license plate light to fit.

Also smoothed out the bottom with sandpaper and sprayed some black window tint I had from a hobby shop to help color the part I cut to blend in with the rest of the fender.

The light was a bit expensive, more than I wanted to spend, but they seemed the most practical. Comes with 2 in the pack but I only used one. I'll see how well it lights up at night and add the other if necessary. I kind of dont like the wire showing, but it's a pretty short wire and I'm too lazy to buy more wire to make it longer in order to make it easier to tape up and hide.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1310_.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1311.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1302_.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1303_.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1308.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1309.jpg

last pic, on the left side, just shows that I used the stock connector to help connect the light's wires

to keep the signals from drooping, you need to use some sort of "washer" between the signal grommet and the frame. I used a couple of small tie wraps to act as washers in there to get the signals to stick straight out.

http://www.kawiforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=20739&d=1238976110

Whole bunch of red X's in the past 2 posts; you can't link directly to an image attachment on another vbulletin forum. While it may look like it works for you, that's only because you are currently logged in at that other site as well. Everybody else sees the dreaded red x... :)

I can see all the pictures posted by paterick and copied by kkim.

It will work fine if you are still logged into kawiforums. If you're not a kawiforums member, or haven't logged in recently, it won't work.

To demonstrate this, go to kawiforums and hit log out. Then go to your browser options and delete all cache files. Quit your browser. Re-open your browser and come back to this thread, and you'll see the red X's.

You can't assume that everyone coming to this site is already logged into KF as well, though certainly a decent portion tend to be.

tech question, Alex... why is it that it won't work? I better go check some of my DIYs, if that's the case. :D

Why would people assume that it would work? :D Most forums only allow people to view attachments if you are logged into the forum, to keep from bandwidth leeching.

Why would people assume that it would work? ... because to most people who are not technogeeks, it's all transparent.

I guess it's a good thing there are enough technogeeks around to continue to work on the illusion of transparency. ;)

It will work fine if you are still logged into kawiforums. If you're not a kawiforums member, or haven't logged in recently, it won't work.


Still dont work for me, Iam logged in here & kawiforums :confused:

Yeah, Iam at home and not work :p

Would it be possible to use water nozzle lights such as these for a LP light?

http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00tYrElsaHRTZSM/Water-Nozzle-Light-XB-583-.jpg

Still dont work for me, Iam logged in here & kawiforums :confused:

Technically, it shouldn't work for anyone, don't feel bad. :) Poke Pat to get his pics loaded here or any other pic site that doesn't require a logon before linking 'em.

technogeeks and non-technogeeks, pictures fixed.. let me know if you have any trouble seeing them.

btw, do technogeeks listen to techno??? hehe


to keep the signals from drooping, you need to use some sort of "washer" between the signal grommet and the frame. I used a couple of small tie wraps to act as washers in there to get the signals to stick straight out.

http://www.kawiforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=20739&d=1238976110

Thanks for the tip Kelly, I've been thinking of what to use to fix that sagging on those lights.

btw, do technogeeks listen to techno??? hehe

Rarely. (but every once in awhile. :thumbup: )

I put the ties on the inside of the frame between it and the rubber grommet for the signals. I had to use 2 zipped together in series as I only had thin short ones. The longer, thicker ones wouldn't fit properly. You'll see once you get in there.

:)

ah yes, I shall see.. more work ahead as always :)

Has anyone taken a look at this fender eliminator with built in led turn signals? Only $69 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/08-09-Kawasaki-250R-250-r-FENDER-ELIMINATOR-2008-2009_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a570Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a13 18Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem1204087900 54QQitemZ120408790054QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Has anyone taken a look at this fender eliminator with built in led turn signals? Only $69 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/08-09-Kawasaki-250R-250-r-FENDER-ELIMINATOR-2008-2009_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a570Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a13 18Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem1204087900 54QQitemZ120408790054QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
looks good, but it is kind of hard to tell what the kit looks like from those pics. they should have different closer day angles. the top and bottom pics don't seem to have the turn signals. but yeah... looks pretty good from what i can tell.

I was thinking the same thing about the pictures... He does have a ton of good reviews from people who have bought fender eliminator kits from him...so I assume it must be of good quality. I'm on the fence on making it my fender eliminator choice...there just seems to be a ton of poor options for removing the fender..

i think this is the same kit. the turn signals seem pretty dim during the daytime. idk... maybe it is just the pic. it does seem like a pretty well thought out package though. i wonder why the ebay one is so cheap? on the website it seems to be going for $150.

edit: oh.. this is a different kit. the one they are selling on ebay has crappy pics on this site too.

this is the higher kit. yeah, so i don't know how the ebay one attaches. this kit comes with the fiberglass mount.

but in either case, not sure if cars would see those turn signals in the daytime.

http://www.bikelitez.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=K0809250RSTDF

I don't think those turn signals are very visible either... kinda lame that they don't have any type of cover either. I'm going to give cutting/dremeling a shot before I spend $$. (although the spray from wet roads kind of concerns me)

(although the spray from wet roads kind of concerns me)
hey, that's the price for looking cool. lol

but yeah, i know what you mean. the back of my jacket and passenger seat area get pretty dirty when the roads are wet. i bent back my safety sticker bracket that sits below my license plate (to act as a mini fender), so hopefully the next time it will catch some of the spray.

here is my fender SAW! :)

glad we could help :d

i had showed pics to the wife, asked her what she liked best. She picked completely gone...... So we went to work :)

l bracket is up to personal preff for plate location :thumbup:

how?

Yup! Thats why you just remove the fender plastic, keep the stock trun sig hook brackets. One L bracket from some junk metal in the garage & done :)

Sounds easy.......Guess it would be hard for some people without a garage or tools thou.

Also HOW ? :O

Here is my fender mod.

Before:
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2820/50544707ml8.jpg

The Cut:
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6162/30425980zv6.jpg

After:
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/103/32829542sr8.jpg

Plate-light
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/7097/34688448vp3.jpg

Plate-light and rear-light
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7994/98368494ki7.jpg

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2927/69206181yp1.jpg

I made two 5mm holes in the black rear-light frame, used two Ultrabright white LED's as plate light.

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/8066/68497944pr6.jpg

What are you guys using to cut the plastic? a hacksaw? Those cuts look pretty good considering the plastic is all curvy.

Hi Pat - welcome! Mostly folks have been using dremels to make the cut

What are you guys using to cut the plastic? a hacksaw? Those cuts look pretty good considering the plastic is all curvy.

I used a combination of a Dremel, saw, X-Acto knife, and lighter; Dremel and saw to cut, X-Acto knife to shave off the melted plastic from the Dremel, and a lighter to smooth the plastic when it's all done.

I'll post pics soon.

how?
I used a piece of metal 2 3/4L x 2 1/2W. Set the tail lite bolt plate & plate bracket on each end. Marked there holes, marked in-between both plates(for bend). Drilled & bent @ 90deg.

Also HOW ? :O

From an old post of mine C/P:


Off the top of my head, just to give you an "Idea" of how.......

1- Remove rear seat/cowl.
2- Remove both L/R black side panels.
3 - Remove front seat
4 - Remove turn sig bracket bolts
5 - Remove turn sig screws.
6 - Remove brake light bolts & un plug tail light/plate light.
7- Remove Left rear cowling
8 - Remove Right rear cowling
9 - Un plug turn sig wires(next to battery). Pull them out towards sigs & remove sigs.
10 - Separate brake light from fender/ two tabs, Remove fender/tail light.
11- Drill out rivets to separate turn sig brackets from fender.
12- Trim fender. < Carefully!
13 - On fender remove plastic around turn sig mounts, use as washer's on inside of bracket with grommet.
14 - Mount turn sigs on brackets, with grommet/ plastic washer you made.
15 - Run turn sig wires thru fender / install fender.
16 - Bolt up turn sig brackets(turn sigs)
17- Run turn sig wires & plug in.
18 - Install tail light.
19 - Install R/L rear cowlings.
20 - Install front seat.
21 - Install black side panels L/R.
22 - Make L bracket to fit tail light mounting plate & plate bracket.
23 - Install bracket & plate bracket mount(plate bracket goes up-side down).
24 - plug in tail lite.
25- replace rear seat/cowl.
26- Mount plate.

I used a weller soldering iron to cut the plastic, they have those plastic tips. Then a die grinder with 3m pad to smoooth it out.

Ok, I just got my comp werkes kit installed and all of the sudden my back turn signals don't flash, they just stay solid. Any idea what I'm missing? Sorry if this is a problem that has already been addressed elsewhere I looked for an hour, but didn't find the answer. :-/
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Ok, I just got my comp werkes kit installed and all of the sudden my back turn signals don't flash, they just stay solid. Any idea what I'm missing? Sorry if this is a problem that has already been addressed elsewhere I looked for an hour, but didn't find the answer. :-/
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If it has LED turn signals, you need to change the stock flasher relay to an electronic flasher or add resistors to the wiring. More info here (http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15282&highlight=proton).

I'll post pics soon.

As promised...

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=20&pictureid=1707

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=20&pictureid=1706

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=20&pictureid=1705

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=20&pictureid=1704

Here's a quick chop I did tonight. I was too lazy to get "L" brackets etc. so it will be like this for a bit. I pretty much just chopped away most of the fender and then repurposed the plate light holes to put the plate bracket onto.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3309/3637795044_00f4399c0e.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2469/3637786926_3f47b0df6e.jpg

here's mine i did yesterday

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/richierich781/DSC_0925-1.jpg

I'll be posting mine up later - it's a rather different version of a mod - but still well within the legal specifications....

Lol i also have a Pitbull rear stand. I hated that tail since day 1, but im not gonna spend $80-100 for a fender eliminator kit when all you gotta do is CHOP off that extra tail plastic! :D

Im not into the whole 'LEDs and clear taillights like most kids and ppl younger then me", im old school and the stock turn signals and such look just fine IMO. If i were to do sumin with the rear... id drill and toss in a 'BLUE DOT' for the red light! :thumbup:

Anyhow, heres my Pics of my Chop,Cut,Rebuild!

2 befores (day i bought the Bike & rode right over to my Dads)

3 afters, taken last weekend!


Oh also, ive rode in the rain and wet roads.... there ISNT ANY backsplash on my back! So to that Myth of getting rid of your rear tail WILL get you wet.... disperse that myth! lol

Here's my version of a fender chop. I bought a Targa universal plate bracket with blinker mounts for $16 and took a pic from google of a Targa eliminator kit installed and duplicated the profile of the tail from that. Here are the results.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e207/Babyviper95/100_0924.jpg

As promised...


Where did you get the black license plate LED bolts? I can only seem to find silver and white.

i don't know where he got his, but they sell them on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Black-Universal-LED-License-Plate-Light-Bolts-US-MADE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3357101f4aQQitemZ220504006474QQptZMotorcyclesQ5f PartsQ5fAccessories

found some cheaper:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Black-LED-License-Plate-Bolt-Light-Honda-Motorcycle-HD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ca21e1df6QQitemZ260417920502QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPa rtsQ5fAccessories

Decided to keep most of my fender in tact so my back doesn't get splashed when the road is wet. I also wanted to keep the rear reflector for safety reasons....and it's a law to have one. :p
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/iyzmi/2113b56c.jpg
Made a simple little bracket and mounted the reflector to it. I think it turned out pretty good but I may trim a bit more off so the end of the fender is more flush with the bottom of the reflector.

no... this is nekkid!!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_geC920GCq38/SLkSPr9unWI/AAAAAAAAAuk/yKxXXq8bjx8/s640/DSC04499-1.JPG

no no... this is nekkid-ER :p

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/wayanlam/camera%20mount%20250r/P1050219_resize.jpg
but not a ninjette, he he... my bike is that bit of red in the corner behind my girlfriends scooter x)

hello here is mine .

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3876/dsc01838z.jpg (http://img683.imageshack.us/i/dsc01838z.jpg/)

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/769/dsc01839g.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/dsc01839g.jpg/)

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9540/dsc01840m.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/dsc01840m.jpg/)

Here's my hack job. Took off tail and dremmeled it down to just the license plate light.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/Cab305/workspace.jpg http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/Cab305/cut_down.jpg http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/Cab305/final1.jpg http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/Cab305/final2.jpg

This is temp, I just had to fight the ugly that is the stock tail.

ok did my chop today finally got up the courage and the best part didn't cost me a dime just about 1.5 hours of my time.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u268/semperfi14470/IMAG0024.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u268/semperfi14470/IMAG0023.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u268/semperfi14470/IMAG0022.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/wayanlam/camera%20mount%20250r/P1040750.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v86/wayanlam/camera%20mount%20250r/P1040751.jpg

ghetto fender chop with custom metal numberplate/reflector holder :)

took my time and managed to clean up the cut edges to an almost perfect clean look.

bought a semi broken second hand OEM fender, and kept my original ones in case i wanted to put them back on.

Does anyone who has done the original mud (just chopping the mud guard below the factory license plate location) ride in the rain? I ride rain or shine, and I don't want road grime all over my back and seat if I do it. What are your experiences with this?

my experience with fender chop: muddy!

it sprays up onto the back light, and back seat. it doesnt reach far enough to hit my back, but i think if i had a big backpack it might get dirty. when doubling up with my gf, she gets a good dose of mud, hehe...

basically you have to keep the original fender if you want to avoid getting muddied!

Ok sounds good! The stock cattail doesn't really bother me anyways :P .

Thanks for the info :) .


Arg, I'm dumb. I totally meant to say Beavertail...

So what's the easier kit, Targa or EvoTech? Of the two which is the better fit? I would keep the factory turn signals but replace the brake light with an LED plug n' play anyway.

Not that I'm going to mod anytime soon... but good to know for the future.

here is my fender SAW! :)
thats exactly what i did just hack off that long useless rear reflector and the dealer put reflector screws on when i bought it so it all worked out no fuss or use of money which was a major concern plus it looks better not great but still awsome

lol... I deserve no credit. :D

When I decided to chop mine, I read HKr1's post and copied it to the letter. Credit should go fully to Kerry... and also, when something goes wrong because of it, he's fully to blame, too! :happy130:

Please help I can't seem to find the post by HKr1 where he explains how to DIY fender eliminator. thanks so much
:o

After over a year of owning the bike, finally did the full fender chop (previously, I just cut the bottom half)

I just used a short hacksaw. There was also some drilling of the L brackets and license plate & license plate bracket in order to get the bolts and license plate light to fit.

Also smoothed out the bottom with sandpaper and sprayed some black window tint I had from a hobby shop to help color the part I cut to blend in with the rest of the fender.

The light was a bit expensive, more than I wanted to spend, but they seemed the most practical. Comes with 2 in the pack but I only used one. I'll see how well it lights up at night and add the other if necessary. I kind of dont like the wire showing, but it's a pretty short wire and I'm too lazy to buy more wire to make it longer in order to make it easier to tape up and hide.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1310_.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1311.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1302_.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1303_.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1308.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/slmboypnoy/250R/CIMG1309.jpg

last pic, on the left side, just shows that I used the stock connector to help connect the light's wires

quick question how do the LED lights hook up do they have a clip on them?

I really tried to live with the stock rear fender. My plan was to leave this bike as close to stock as feasible. But, putting the bike up on a rear stand was challenging because the darned fender was so long that it interferes with the Pit Bull handle, and it needs to be bent out of the way to lift the bike. Or, it takes 2 people to do it, one to straighten up the bike and the other to carefully put the stand under the spools.

Not liveable. So, I took my handy-dandy hacksaw, removed the license plate, and sliced it cleanly off behind the plate. I managed to keep it pretty clean and level. I was worried it would look terrible, but the functionality was needed for me. Turns out that it looks fine (and now works fine). No need to buy a fender eliminator kit as far as I can tell, and with the new seat cowl that we just added, I'm perfectly happy with how the rear of the bike looks. I love this little ninjette.


Here's mine! I used a little metal hack saw, worked great. Measuring took the most time =p

is the way to go ;)

also attacked with a dremel. $0 later, gorgeousness. Did a DIY post on my blog about it: http://ridingjezebel.com/2011/07/13/the-0-diy-fender-eliminator/

i cant open your blog for some reason, always comes up with "Server not found"

wonder why... :(

i did a dremel fender chop too, hehe...

i cant open your blog for some reason, always comes up with "Server not found"

wonder why... :(

i did a dremel fender chop too, hehe...

Odd- it works for me! Try going to www.ridingjezebel.com and finding the post on the main page ( under bike mods)

i tried that already, doesn't work, somehow its being blocked, either by the internet provider, or the office firewall, lol..

ill try when i get home later :p

heres mine.. i completely chopped everything back there with my dremel and just made some L brackets for the turns and tag..

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/supergenesis/IMAG0038.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/supergenesis/IMAG0037.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/supergenesis/IMAG0040.jpg

heres mine.. i completely chopped everything back there with my dremel and just made some L brackets for the turns and tag..

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/supergenesis/IMAG0038.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/supergenesis/IMAG0037.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c220/supergenesis/IMAG0040.jpg
where did you get those spikes :D

Ebay. They are windscreen bolts but came in a pack of 6 so had 2 leftover.. if im not mistaken they are from danmoto.

Did mine last night. Didn't have L-brackets so I cut a tab out of the existing fender to mount the stock plate bracket. Also, drilled out the stock blinker mount rivets (hated the hooks) and used the reflector bracket to relocate the blinkers.

It's a bit wider, angled and lower than I'd like, but I'll eventually get L-brackets when I have more time to redo it. AND it costs me nothing.

is the way to go ;)

how hard was that install? I saw that one and was thinking about getting it?

Not sure if those turn signals are far enough a part as well for CA law...

I heard they had to be 9 in. apart? Someone correct me if im wrong?

It took me days to do mine. I'm not sure why, but I found it took me annoyingly long to do everything. Taking off the fairings for the first time took me a while, and so did hooking everything back up. I ran into a few speed bumps when certain things didn't fit, or bolts were too long or short so I had to go to the hardware store a few times to get everything I needed. I used simple L brackets with some bolts, washers and locking nuts. For the plate lights I spliced 2 LED bolts together and soldered them onto the original wiring with the stock harness.

Here are the results:

I think the French based company, Ermax, has a nice looking fender eliminator (although their term is plate holder).

http://www.silverstonemotor.com/boutique_us/images_produits/sdp-250rn-v-600-2.jpg

Taken off their web site:

"LED plate light and standard plate holder are provided
The special SUP09 alu plate holder (see pictures) is included
TRI led indicators are available in option for 38,40€ more
Fastening kit and fitting instructions are provided
Many colors available"

Link with more photos: http://www.silverstonemotor.com/kawasaki-z750-2007-to-2011-plate-holder-ready-to-paint,us,4,ERM-SDP-NINJA250R-0811-peint.cfm

wow I really like that one a lot...


man I want to spend to much money on this damn thing lol

wow I really like that one a lot...


man I want to spend to much money on this damn thing lol

You like it cause one of the three colors they make is your neon green :D I wish they had blue

wow I really like that one a lot...
man I want to spend to much money on this damn thing lol

I hear ya, loud and clear.

I like Ermax's "plate holder" also. In fact, it might be one of my favorite fender eliminator designs.

I forgot to add that there is a US distributor for Ermax called Frog Specialties. They only have two items for the Ninja 250R and not in stock. They charge slightly more than what the French web site offers them at. Note: these two parts are not presently listed on FS's web site.

I contacted Philippe with FS about this eliminator and here was his reply minus the photos: (Their fender eliminator is competitively priced but their bubble screens aren't.)

Hello

Here are the photos of the 2 items we have for Ninja 250.

We have none of these parts in stock and they must be ordered. ETA 3-4 weeks to us in So Cal.

Fender Eliminators are $140 painted. Turn Signals are $40 additional. They are stick on flush mounted LEDs.
Dual Bubble screens are $115 in clear, grey, bronze ; $125 in lite black, dark black or any color

Sincerely
Philippe
--
FROG SPECIALTIES
since/depuis 1987
Auto/Moto Import-Export
BERINGER brakes
ERMAX motorcycle products
4050 Spencer Street, Suite i
Torrance, CA 90503
Tel : (USA) 310-370-9856
Fax: (USA) 310-370-9875
frogspecialties@gmail.com
www.frogspecialties.com

why not just order it straight from France then? lol

why not just order it straight from France then? lol

In my case I'd have to pay customs in ordering direct if it even arrived and that's a BIG if!

Time to ask my Parisian friend to do a French Connection for me! ;)

I found Ermax's company web site and looked at their pdf catalog. It is fairly extensive and they appear to be a large company dealing with aftermarket products. Unfortunately, not many are for the little Ninja. Still, worth a look/see.

Here's the link gents: (in English)

http://www.ermax.fr/catalogue-Moto-EN

http://www.silverstonemotor.com/boutique_us/images_produits/sdp-250rn-v-600-2.jpg

Damn that looks freakin good!! Combine that with the integrated tail and flushmount signals from Tri, and you got yourself a darn good looking bike with good turn signals and a lit plate!!

Now I want a 250 J just so I can buy one of these

Not to outdone by the French, a nice looking undertail/seatcowl/fender eliminator/micro plate combo made by Pyramid Plastics in England. Mentioned before on the forum I thought it would be nice comparing the two in this thread.

It's much more expensive at £178.46 GBP ($276.11 USD)! By comparison, Hotbodies undertail's list price is $229.95.

Pyramid's Pretty Plastic:

http://www.pyramid-plastics.co.uk/catalog/images/PYRAMID_NINJA_SEAT_UNIT_1%20(Medium).JPG

geez thats a little pricey... Id just get the hotbodies one over that....

Here's mine! I used a little metal hack saw, worked great. Measuring took the most time =p

I did the same modification. The only thing I did was get closer to the natural bend in the fender so it looks clean. Used a Rockwell Oscillating tool and it was super easy. Maybe 30-60 mins because I'm a perfectionist

As I have a friend living in France who was coming to South America I decided to purchase one of the Ermax´s fender eliminators. What a nightmare it was dealing with this company! First, I tried contacting them through their web site but they never responded. Then by email, again no response. I wrote to Frog Specialties about this and he got in touch with them on my behalf and finally heard from Ermax. Philipe with Frog told me that Ermax would not sell direct but this turned out not to be true. I placed my order with them giving them plenty of lead time but they missed the deliver by date because they needed additional paperwork filled out and faxed to them. I placed my order using my credit card but Ermax needed a ¨promise to pay¨ agreement form signed and received before they could ship it. Why a credit card with approval wouldn't suffice is beyond me. As a result I had to wait an additional two months for another courier to bring it to me.

Once received I was eager to install the fender eliminator. It installed fairly easy but did need a little tweaking to fit just right due to my integrated tail light. I purchased the Kawasaki green version along with the LED lights. It also has LED lights for the license plate. The license plate lights are nice but the turn signal LEDs that come with the Ermax fender eliminator aren't very bright. Compared to the LEDs in the CustomLED integrated taillight they are dull. The exterior turn signals on the Ermax look nice but had I known they would be that dull I would not have purchased them.

With the green Ermax fender eliminator and Scotts rear hugger accenting the black rear end on my Ninja it looks very nice. I can post photos if someone wants to see it but it looks just like the company´s photos already posted in this thread.

My recommendation for anyone considering buying an Ermax fender eliminator is to purchase it from Frog Specialities in California. It will save you time and be less expensive.

I dumped my bike going very slowly on a gravel driveway so took it into body shop for repair and repainting. After I picked up the bike I noticed that my license plate bracket wasn't positioned properly and upon closer inspection discovered to my horror that the entire bracket on the Ermax fender eliminator was broken. Apparently the body shop backed my moto into something which cracked the ABS housing. I replaced it with a new Ermax fender eliminator but this time positioned my license plate bracket just below the eliminator, drilling two holes in the undertail.

I would not recommend anyone using the plate location that Ermax has designed into their eliminator because it will break when there is enough force applied to the plate, which surprisingly isn't much!

I purchased the replacement through the US Ermax distributor, Frog Specialty in California, and it cost much less than ordering the same part directly from the manufacture.