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Old May 15th, 2015, 04:35 AM   #327
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Originally Posted by Somchai View Post
I know that the Gixxer doesn't have ABS and that's why I'd ask.

The way to stop with ABS is not shorter than w/o.
Multiple sources disagree, based on actual testing.

Study by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA, which also crash-tests cars) in cooperation with Transport Canada of conventional, linked and ABS-equipped bikes.
http://www.msf-usa.org/downloads/ims...ance-Paper.pdf

Austrailian (spokes.com.au) article with citations: http://www.spokes.com.au/riding-safety/abs

But here's the point: There is more to braking than short stopping distances. Aufitt's visceral hatred of ABS is based on experience at the track, where you're intentionally playing with the limits of traction. His own personal style doesn't play nice with the ABS system on an entry-level street bike. Given those circumstances, the objection is certainly valid.

On the street, for the average rider who is the target for the R3, it's a different story.


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Originally Posted by Somchai View Post
But now to the real point of your answer about tweak it, do you really want to say that you are able to tweak ABS?
There are track-oriented bikes with tunable or race-optimized ABS. For example:

For example, from the Cycle World "first ride" writeup on the Triumph Daytona 675R:

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The ABS offers two modes of operation, normal and circuit. Triumph insisted we ride in the latter mode as it’s calibrated for dry track use and overrides the normal mode’s anti-nose-wheelie control. You’d practically have to hit an oily patch or run off track for it to activate. The stock fitment Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP radials were so hooked up, the only time I felt the ABS engage was when I purposely stomped the rear pedal on pit lane to be certain it did in fact work.
There's also the Kawasaki KIBS system on the ZX-10R and ZX-6R, which use multiple sensors, are linked to the ECU and are designed for the track (in other words, a whole different deal than the entry-level system on a CBR250).

http://www.moto123.com/motorcycle-re...id=134122&pg=2

Aaaand there's BMW's lean-angle-sensing ABS on the S1000RR, which is a heck of an effective track bike: http://www.gizmag.com/bmw-abs-pro-hp4-cornering/33034/
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