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Adam...see my reply to p1...the local streets are like 100% safe, he's out in Mastic and they do get ice...P1...check out barre Surplus in VT....for $15 or less you can get mittens that work....rode with mittens and liners tonite...no gloves underneath...gauranteed they work....if you buy them in large and they don't work i'll buy them from you for sno-mo.
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