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Bob KellyIII · March 31st, 2022, 12:50 AM

Can you do it YES absolutely ,I have done it myself even,.....
is it safer DEFINATELY NO....
I think your missing the point here I could ride a 34" seat height bike if I wanted to..... but I don't want to.... it's far better and safer just to lower the bike so I can touch the ground....
for the street I don't want to ride a bike I can't flat foot both feet on the ground at a stop sign.... a 34" seat height bike I cannot do that in ANY WAY i have to slide my ass off the seat and to one side to get my foot down
(and god help me if I forget just one time ! ).....that's not a safe practice !
Now you may well be so accustomed to it that you never forget and it has become second nature to you ...and that has become the way you ride motorcycles..... but it is NOT as safe when the S**T hits the fan and your natural reactions kick in and you stick your foot out to catch you and you fall over anyway......yah I know, you don't make those mistakes and you are so good at what you do that you never forget..... well buddy your the only one
the rest of us idiots out here aren't that good and we do revert to the natural instincts when bad things happen like panic braking ...too much when you know you shouldn't...... it happens ! or braking at the last minute and stopping just in time and then falling over just because the frigging bike is too far off the ground for your legs to touch easily..... been there done that !
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I'm saying your bike is alot safer to ride if you can flat foot it ...no matter your size.....if you can't your a danger to yourself and others, not to mention your bike..... because those instinces happen far to regularly where the idiot in the car ahead slams on the brakes for no reason and your following too close to stop..... when is the last time you followed in traffic at 50 MPH and had 6 car lengths between you and the guy in front of you ? NOBODY does that.... should they ? YES.... but we don't .
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let me tell you something about myself.... if I had bought a Yamaha T7 which I was considering very seriously... I would have lowered that brand new bike by now Regardless of other people telling me ahh Bob, you can learn to ride it just like that..... because I know I can ride a bike like that
but IT IS NOT SAFE !
....so yes I can lower any bike I own if I want to, and have been doing so every sense they started making the bikes so darn tall
.....one on the draws to the Harleys is their low seat height but watching a few videos I see that has also changed slightly the short gals can't flat foot the new ones.....
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what gives the motorcycle manafacturers the right to make a modle of bike so tall that it is a hazard to all that ride it ? on some of these bikes now days you'ed have to be 8' tall and most of that legs alone just to flat foot their bikes...... yet we still buy them because there is nothing else available...
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so it comes back to the owner to LOWER the bike to a reasonable level
at least to the point you can be on the seat and touch tippy-toe (but that is not good enough, i know from experience)
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in the quest for higher ground clearance the seat height went up on dirt bikes..... they got their ground clearance but the consumer lost more than he gained...... dessert racers Loved it..... but side stands went out at the same time due to the height... so you had to find a tree to lean the bike against
....one guy I knew never slid his butt off the seat he just stepped off the foot pegs to the ground when he stopped..... is that what we will be forced to do on the street in the future because the manufacturers fail to lower the seat height ?....its silly, just lower the bikes yourself !
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Bob......

March 31st, 2022, 12:50 AM	#374
Bob KellyIII Retired motorcycle Mc. Name: Robert Location: Weed, California. Join Date: Jul 2021 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, 2021 CSC TT250, 1977 Triumph Bonneville 750cc,2001 Honda XR650L. Posts: A lot.	Can you do it YES absolutely ,I have done it myself even,..... is it safer DEFINATELY NO.... I think your missing the point here I could ride a 34" seat height bike if I wanted to..... but I don't want to.... it's far better and safer just to lower the bike so I can touch the ground.... for the street I don't want to ride a bike I can't flat foot both feet on the ground at a stop sign.... a 34" seat height bike I cannot do that in ANY WAY i have to slide my ass off the seat and to one side to get my foot down (and god help me if I forget just one time ! ).....that's not a safe practice ! Now you may well be so accustomed to it that you never forget and it has become second nature to you ...and that has become the way you ride motorcycles..... but it is NOT as safe when the S**T hits the fan and your natural reactions kick in and you stick your foot out to catch you and you fall over anyway......yah I know, you don't make those mistakes and you are so good at what you do that you never forget..... well buddy your the only one the rest of us idiots out here aren't that good and we do revert to the natural instincts when bad things happen like panic braking ...too much when you know you shouldn't...... it happens ! or braking at the last minute and stopping just in time and then falling over just because the frigging bike is too far off the ground for your legs to touch easily..... been there done that ! ..... I'm saying your bike is alot safer to ride if you can flat foot it ...no matter your size.....if you can't your a danger to yourself and others, not to mention your bike..... because those instinces happen far to regularly where the idiot in the car ahead slams on the brakes for no reason and your following too close to stop..... when is the last time you followed in traffic at 50 MPH and had 6 car lengths between you and the guy in front of you ? NOBODY does that.... should they ? YES.... but we don't . ..... let me tell you something about myself.... if I had bought a Yamaha T7 which I was considering very seriously... I would have lowered that brand new bike by now Regardless of other people telling me ahh Bob, you can learn to ride it just like that..... because I know I can ride a bike like that but IT IS NOT SAFE ! ....so yes I can lower any bike I own if I want to, and have been doing so every sense they started making the bikes so darn tall .....one on the draws to the Harleys is their low seat height but watching a few videos I see that has also changed slightly the short gals can't flat foot the new ones..... ....... what gives the motorcycle manafacturers the right to make a modle of bike so tall that it is a hazard to all that ride it ? on some of these bikes now days you'ed have to be 8' tall and most of that legs alone just to flat foot their bikes...... yet we still buy them because there is nothing else available... ..... so it comes back to the owner to LOWER the bike to a reasonable level at least to the point you can be on the seat and touch tippy-toe (but that is not good enough, i know from experience) ..... in the quest for higher ground clearance the seat height went up on dirt bikes..... they got their ground clearance but the consumer lost more than he gained...... dessert racers Loved it..... but side stands went out at the same time due to the height... so you had to find a tree to lean the bike against ....one guy I knew never slid his butt off the seat he just stepped off the foot pegs to the ground when he stopped..... is that what we will be forced to do on the street in the future because the manufacturers fail to lower the seat height ?....its silly, just lower the bikes yourself ! ..... Bob...... __________________________________________________ Its too late when you've gone too far !