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Old October 16th, 2011, 10:17 PM   #53
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I can point to lots and lots of polls that dispute that claim
try this CNN poll
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/im...3/22/rel5a.pdf
how about this poll
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/01/1...are-hardening/
heres pages off CNN polls
http://www.bing.com/search?q=CNN+Pol...are&FORM=QSRE2
heres pages of rasmussen polls.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=Rasmuss...care&FORM=R5FD
How about gallop??
http://www.gallup.com/poll/145496/Fa...hcare-Law.aspx
None of the polls show anything other than better marketing by the forces of fear and cynicism.

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Please point to my misunderstanding of the facts or issues. Im interested in learning where my logic is flawed.
You keep asking that, and I keep telling you, yet you then keep asking. You're wrong on the numbers. You blame the wrong people for spending problems. You point to the wrong solutions.

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It is worse out there for the majority of people under Obama. We have spent more money than ever before, money we dont have.
Right. So the answer is less spending, and cutting taxes. Does anyone really believe that with a straight face?

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Unemployment is still mired at over 9%, inflation is a concern unlike it was during GW, The price of fuel is still out of control, regulations are pouring out of this administation faster than ever.
So the white house is to blame for unemployment. Not the lack of any legislation passed to actually do anything about it. Not the "free market' taking any of the stimulus to actually try and create sustainable jobs. And not the continual lack of that same "free market" to invest in home-grown jobs. Or the lack of skilled workers to take on those same jobs.

The regulations issue has something to it, but it's never as clearcut as the soundbites make it appear. This Economist article covers it reasonably well. There's nothing wrong with including economic analysis on environmental regulations. But the knee-jerk reaction such as "eliminating the EPA" and putting the burden on the general public to sue or otherwise combat any environmental issues is an example of where the anti-regulation folks are off-base as well.

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Im happy to spread the blame around to all that are responsible. Regaurdless of party affiliation.
Something you seem reluctant to do.
Really? Then get the spending numbers right. Once. When you say "Obama is spending X!" actually point to anything that the spending is made up of that is different than was already going on prior to him taking office.

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Come on....I dare ya you blame obama and or the democrats for something.
Failing to understand the true goals of the opposition early enough to do anything about it until his second term.
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