Or mustangs. And this is coming from a mustang fan. Those things can't turn at all. Saying the car has some understeer is an understatement.
Mustangs plow in a turn better than an Amish farmer tending land.
I'm going under $30k for a new vehicle. 180-250hp. 200hp seems to be perfect for daily driving and fun. The 120hp my old Civic EX had was too little. 200, however, is plenty to get yourself in trouble (except the old V6 mustangs, the gearing kills the fun factor of that car. You feel quite disconnected from the car).