[Cali619]

The big stealerships are all about the sale and making that commission. They will tell you an out the ddor price just for the bike and sales tax, but where they try to hit you is in the other BS fees that crank up the price. Bottom line is tell them you only want to spend X amount of dollars(low ball them) and see how it goes. If they cant do it walk out the door, cause most likely they are full of crap.
Personally I like the smaller mom and pop stores that are more into fair deals than competing with the top sales dude for that bonus...