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Old October 5th, 2012, 07:34 AM   #55
Sapper
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Name: Mike
Location: Tampa
Join Date: Sep 2012

Motorcycle(s): 2013 Ninja 300, 2010 Yamaha WR250R, 2008 CBR600RR

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Originally Posted by Jiggles View Post
That's not true. The zx10r and ninja 1000 have a similar amount of power, the zx10r simply revs higher to gain those massive hp numbers. If you are riding a literbike on the street though I doubt you will be taking advantage of those extra revs considering that they put you over 100mph

In similar gears on the street, if you got WOT on both bikes (and try not to wheelie) you will find that they have similar acceleration, the zx10r will have slightly more but its hardly enough reason to say "I don't consider the ninja 1000 a literbike"
Have you ridden both of these bikes much? Sure if you're in 6th gear going 40mph and open the throttle they will have "similar" pull. If you ride normally and take off from a start then open the throttle until you hit redline there is no comparison. The 1000 feels fast, the ZX10 feels deadly.

Ninja 1000
509lbs
136H
3.74lbs/hp

ZX10
437lbs
194hp
2.25lbs/hp

600RR
410lbs
120hp
3.42lbs/hp

My 08 600RR pulls harder overall than the Ninja 1000 and the above are curb weights and crank HP numbers to show why. The Ninja 1000 is more on par with a 600 and I can tell you from riding with a guy on a Z1000 my 600RR is faster. When I take off he simply can't catch up. Maybe it would change over 100mph but we have never tried. The big difference is the torque, which makes the 1000 great on the street, but when you wind them up the 1000 will be even or behind a 600 with an experienced rider.

Not from looking at numbers or graphs, but from rising these two bikes I do not consider the Ninja 1000 a literbike. It cannot keep up with them but it wasn't meant to. It has a much more useful powerband. I was intimidated by the displacement when I rode it at first, treating it like a literbike, but quickly realize how much more tame it was and started hammering the throttle and taking it through its paces. Great bike and it is on my radar for a comfortable medium distance highway bike, but it is no literbike.
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