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ninjaone · October 18th, 2012, 10:27 AM

To all those people saying "MSF" keep in mind that MSF does not have a presence outside the United States. The OP is from Canada and they have their own set of safety programs. It seems like the BC programs are all about one week long, but several options have flexible schedules.

Also to those who want to teach this guy personally, be aware that learning from "friends and family" over a certified training course has an even *worse* record then just being self taught according to the Hurt Report.

From Hurt Report findings:

"The motorcycle riders involved in accidents are essentially without training; 92% were self-taught or learned from family or friends. Motorcycle rider training experience reduces accident involvement and is related to reduced injuries in the event of accidents."

http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcyc...dy-summary.htm

From Proficient Motorcycling:

Training/Risk (Lower Number means less Risk):
Professional Training / 0.46
School/Club Course / 0.50
Self-taught / 0.90
Taught by friends/family / 1.56

Self taught riders are twice as likely to crash as trained riders, and "taught by friends and family" increases the likelihood of a crash by 3x.

The smart thing to do is take a training course.

October 18th, 2012, 10:27 AM	#28
ninjaone ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Phx Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): CBR Posts: 145	To all those people saying "MSF" keep in mind that MSF does not have a presence outside the United States. The OP is from Canada and they have their own set of safety programs. It seems like the BC programs are all about one week long, but several options have flexible schedules. Also to those who want to teach this guy personally, be aware that learning from "friends and family" over a certified training course has an even worse record then just being self taught according to the Hurt Report. From Hurt Report findings: "The motorcycle riders involved in accidents are essentially without training; 92% were self-taught or learned from family or friends. Motorcycle rider training experience reduces accident involvement and is related to reduced injuries in the event of accidents." http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcyc...dy-summary.htm From Proficient Motorcycling: Training/Risk (Lower Number means less Risk): Professional Training / 0.46 School/Club Course / 0.50 Self-taught / 0.90 Taught by friends/family / 1.56 Self taught riders are twice as likely to crash as trained riders, and "taught by friends and family" increases the likelihood of a crash by 3x. The smart thing to do is take a training course.