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Old May 24th, 2014, 08:57 PM   #102
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Originally Posted by Samer View Post
.........Now, we decide to roll on the throttle, i.e. increase speed. Without any input to the handles, it seems clear to me that the centrifugal force increases, again by the equation F = mV^2/r. It seems to me that this increase in force decreases the roll (lean) angle of the bike and vice versa. What am I missing here
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Yes, this increase in force tends to decrease the roll (lean) angle of the bike.
If we don't balance the torques via re-adjusting the lean angle, the bike stands up.
We must force more lean angle to re-gain balance and keep turning.

The only purpose of the lean we induce via counter-steering is to counter-balance the tip-over torque of the centrifugal force times the height of the CG.
We precisely adjust the torque necessary to balance that tip over torque (as we constantly try keeping the balance of the bike).

That balancing torque is the weight times the off-center distance of the vertical projection of the CG.
Weight remains the same and the off-center distance or lean angle is all we have to play with.

Please, read this old thread:
https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=100964

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