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Originally Posted by Rifleman
Adoug, perhaps you are confusing "firearm owner" with "concealed carry licensee" Texas didn't even have a CCL until 1994. The Luby's cafeteria killings were the motivation to remove Gov Richards and seat a gov who would sign ccw into law (G.W. Bush)
1. George Hennard, not licensed to carry a firearm (no ccw in Texas at that time). Not eligible to own or possess a handgun under federal law for drug possession offences.
2. Aaron Alexis had a permit to carry in Washington State. It would not be legal for him to carry in Washington D.C. , Maryland, or Virginia. It is also prohibited to carry a firearm on or in US government property or buildings, including the Navy Yard building 197. His weapon of choice was and unconcealed Remington 870 pump action shot gun with 2 hand guns as backup.
3. James Holms was not licensed to carry a firearm. He was eligible as Colorado is a shall issue state and Holms had no disqualifying elements in his record. However he was not a CCL holder.
4. Wade Michael Page. Wisconsin is prohibited by law from revealing if Page was a licensed concealed carry permit holder or not.
5. Seung-Hui Cho was declared mentally ill by a Vinginia special Justice but was ordered to seek treatment as an "Out patient". As an out patient his mental illness was not reported to Virginia's central criminal records exchange and as such he was not prohibited from purchasing firearms.
Actual concealed carry license holders commit crime at a lower rate then sworn law enforcement officers.
And in each instance above, the only way to stop the attack, would be an armed CCW licensee among the intended victims bringing their weapon to the fight and putting down the assailant.
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This is the most accurate and effective response I've seen along with the guy who also talked about CCW holders being less likely to commit crime than police officers.
CCW is great but the best gun is the one no one knows about until it's needed. CCW requires fingerprinting and being on a list. That doesn't sound like a good move
In PA you can open carry, and no one will have you on a list. This seems like the option that I'm most comfortable with