I already wear a scorpion exo textile jacket, so I may just go with the scorpion pants. They don't say overpants, but they look big enough to fit over. Just have to decide on the drafter or the Deuce, Drafter are only $109, while the deuce are $179. The Deuce do have a full length zipper which is nice. But damn I really can't spend much more than $100.