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Originally Posted by Alex
To paraphrase some of your earlier posts to me, it sounds like you might not be aware of hybrid technology. Cars that get 40+ mpg, accelerate promptly, and have tremendous range are available right now, from some of the largest automakers on the planet. I'm not sure what you're inferring by drivable, but perhaps you could clarify your misunderstanding.
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I'm quite aware of hybrid technology, surprised you didn't pick that up as often as I've been mentioning it. I see no further point in discussing this subject with you. We'll see if it takes decades for EVs like Teslas, etc, to be come practical for some drivers. After all, they've only sold 345,000 of those impractical electric cars in the states since 2008, and another half million around the world.
BTW, if you don't want to sound like an anti-EVer, perhaps you shouldn't talk like one. Sorry if I offend you, I just had to offer corrections on the myths, misinformation, and outright lies I see WRT EV technology lately.
For others who have a real interest in the subject, some information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-i..._United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electr...use_by_country
Best effiency cars (including hybrids, excluding EVs):
https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/best-worst.shtml
Non-Hybrid
37mpg Honda CR-Z 2-seater
37mpg Scion iQ Subcompact
36mpg Audi A3 Turbo Subcompact
36mpg Ford Fiesta subcompact
36mpg Honda Fit Small station wagon
Hybrid
50mpg Toyota Prius C Compact 10.7s 0-60, 18s 1/4
50mpg Toyota Prius Midsize 9.7s 0-60 17.1s 1/4
42mpg Toyota Prius V Midsize wagon 10.2s 0-60 17.8s 1/4
40mpg Ford C-Max Large (?) 9.4s 0-60 16.8s 1/4
http://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle...-60-mph-times/
Sadly, there are only two cars in the 50mpg and two in the 40mpg range. I've excluded VW's TDI series because of the ongoing cheating scandal. You can't even buy one from a dealer now.
More politically-oriented information that is still factual and backed up by real science:
http://mediamatters.org/research/201...ic-cars/185798
Satisfaction surveys place EVs and hybrids at the very top:
http://evobsession.com/electric-car-...ion-3-surveys/
(all those folks must be lying, how can anyone be satisfied with driving a slow, heavy EV that can't drive very far without a very long extension cord).
As to EV bikes? The Brammo Empulse is tantalizingly close to my price range now. I only pay cash for vehicles, haven't had a car payment since 1983 and haven't had any debt at all since paying my mortgage off back in 2012, so I'm getting to the point where I can comfortably plunk down the cash for the Empulse, or I may get the Zero S instead. It isn't as stylish but has much better range. If and when I get one I'll come back to the forums here and give a report.