Timm-AKA Tgold- I must apologize since I did not properly read your reply to Chris and I thought you were writing to me. Toeleven was correct and I was responding to a comment I thought you made to me about my experience. I appreciate everything you wrote and I will apply it this next season. Chris said it best in his post: I was asking the wrong question, I asked about the edge of traction but I really wanted to know what the bike was telling me. I know never to "advance too fast" or try pushing too much harder than I am comfortable. I believe Chris would just like to assure no new rider takes any adive the wrong way and ends up crashing.