found those teknic gloves for 50 flat with free shipping!!! thanks again fred and thank you to all the other members here! if you waant some of these same gloves in both colors and sizes i will link the ebay seller where i got them for $50.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370627824221...84.m1497.l2648
and for future use i will post a pick so other users can see them in their search for gear.
Fred, pick em up from this guy he has all sizes in both colors.