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yes the leather is stout and built well. I do not know if the carbon is real cf or not. But they are very thick I imagine Moo. I think they are as good as a pair of icons... I really like the HELD ones pricey ....
I am so surprised that you have not heard back, the customer service was great for me . But there was a delay of about a day due to the time difference.
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