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Originally Posted by Motofool
I need the help of the experienced members who race or are simply fast in a track bike. 
As many may know, rather than a racer or a persistent track-day rider, I am an old street motorcyclist with the priority of safety and survival. 
The quick flick technique is one that I use and practice in order to have a better survival chance in traffic situations.
It has saved me more than once.
Just like hanging off, this is a riding technique described in "ATOTW2".
Nevertheless, it seems that only Keith Code, his school couches and our @ Misti insist upon its importance for riding well.
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"Can you steer your bike as quickly as you can a car? What does quick turning your bike have to do with your safety? How quick can it be done? Where can you practice it?
Let's take up question number one first. Can you steer your bike as fast as your car? If your answer is "no", my next questions are: What business do you have riding in traffic with cars that can out-maneuver you?, and, Ain't that dangerous? The answers, not pleasant ones to swallow, are: none and yes. You lose.
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Take a moment to evaluate how quickly you are willing to turn your bike. If there were a scale from 1 to 10, where would you be. After twenty years of intense observation, I place the average motorcycle rider at around 4 on that scale. Is fear of falling a reason? Yes. Not practiced at the art of quick turns? Yes. Very few ever take the time to hone their skill up to the standard of effectiveness needed for the street." - Keith Code
If this is such a good technique for fast cornering, why is seldom discussed in forums or shown in videos?
One can find hundreds of opinions, advise and videos about body position and knee dragging but hardly a handful about straighten and speeding a turn by using this technique.
Even videos posted by fast riders show slow and/or premature flicking on dry pavement, ....... leave alone attempting it in rainy conditions.
I would love to hear from the fast track riders and racers about this phenomenon.
Is this because the technique is simply not understood/appreciated/used among fast riders?
May it be that turning flicking-in close to the outside curb would open the inside of the turns for other racers to pass?
As many attend track days to become safer street riders, is this technique taught and practiced by Novice and Intermediate groups in track-days and schools other than California Superbike School?
Does any Ninjette member use it?
How proficient are you?
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Great great topic
I wish I thought of it
I'll see if I can answer some of our questions and keep the discussion rolling. You ask, "If this is such a good technique for fast cornering,
why is seldom discussed in forums or shown in videos?"
I honestly think that people take the concept of quick turning or even just "turning" the bike a little bit for granted. They approach a turn, they turn the bike, they get where they want to go with little thought on how quickly they got it all done.
When I work with my students, very rarely have they given conscious thought to how fast they are steering the bike. Until we break it down for them and show them how they can get the bike turned faster with less effort, and until they actually FEEL the positive results of this technique, they don't really realize they aren't turning the bike quickly.
You asked, "Is this because the technique is simply not understood/appreciated/used among fast riders?" and that is kind of what I was trying to explain above ^^. Many fast riders haven't given conscious thought to how fast they are turning the bike, they just get it done. I know I was like that pre-Superbike School coaching... I was pretty fast and I just rode, I didn't know how to break it down further than that. I think if more people took a look at the technique of quick turning they could make big improvements in their lap times.
You also said, "May it be that turning flicking-in close to the outside curb would open the inside of the turns for other racers to pass?" This can be true for some corners, instead of taking a wide approach and slamming the bike into the turn, a racer may take a more defensive line, trail the brakes in and turn the bike a little slower... but you can still work on the technique of quick-turning and getting it to the lean angle you want quicker, every time.
"Does any Ninjette member use it?" I DO!
"How proficient are you?" I think I do ok
Let me ask a few more questions.
What are the main benefits of getting the bike turned quickly? What kinds of things can you accomplish sooner when the bike is leaned over faster? Why do it?
