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DannoXYZ · September 7th, 2019, 01:47 AM

Have to use some real-world examples here comparing actual usage and costs incurred.

Commute miles = 1000 miles/month
Ninja 250 MPG = 55 to 65 mpg, let’s average to 60mpg
Petrol = 3.71 to 3.89, average = 3.80 dollars/gal

1000 miles/month / 60 miles/gallon * 3.80 dollars/gallon = 63$/month in petrol
Or if I drive auto that gets 30mpg = 126$/month in petrol

Now let’s compare to using Chevy Volt.
2.7 miles/kWhr charge - https://www.valleychevy.com/how-much...-a-chevy-volt/
86.7% L1 charging efficiency - https://www.sae.org/publications/tec.../2015-01-1152/

I currently use about 450kW/hrs per month at home. First 200kW/hr tier-1 costs $0.24, thereafter, tier-2 costs $0.32. My last month’s utility bill was ~200$ (includes gas). PG&E lies about temperatures, many many days in 90s last month with couple over 100-F.

So basically charging Volt @ home will cost me tier-2 $0.32/kWhr. This is reality of actual utility bills. My friend Nicole who uses Volt for commuting says she pays $0.28 tier-2 due to low-income subsidies (PG&E still gets their $0.32). That comes to:

1000 miles/month / 2.7 miles/kWhr = 370 kWhr/month
370 kWhr / 0.867 ChrgEff = 427 kWhr/month from wall (about same as my entire household usage)
427 kWhr * 0.32 $/kWhr = 137$/month (120$/m with gov. subsidy)

Or more than petrol auto getting 30mpg. If i buy used Prius hybrid that gets 50mpg, it’ll only cost me 76$/month to commute those same miles and Volt will never cost less to purchase or operate. I’ll stick with Ninja 250 for lowest operating costs and way faster commutes given Bay Area traffic.

September 7th, 2019, 01:47 AM	#30
DannoXYZ ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: AKA JacRyann Location: Mesa, AZ Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): CB125T CBR250R-MC19 CBR250RR-MC22 NSR350R-MC21 VF500F CBR600RR SFV650 VFR750F R1M ST1300PA Valkyrie-F6C Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2018, MOTM - Nov '17	Have to use some real-world examples here comparing actual usage and costs incurred. Commute miles = 1000 miles/month Ninja 250 MPG = 55 to 65 mpg, let’s average to 60mpg Petrol = 3.71 to 3.89, average = 3.80 dollars/gal 1000 miles/month / 60 miles/gallon * 3.80 dollars/gallon = 63$/month in petrol Or if I drive auto that gets 30mpg = 126$/month in petrol Now let’s compare to using Chevy Volt. 2.7 miles/kWhr charge - https://www.valleychevy.com/how-much...-a-chevy-volt/ 86.7% L1 charging efficiency - https://www.sae.org/publications/tec.../2015-01-1152/ I currently use about 450kW/hrs per month at home. First 200kW/hr tier-1 costs $0.24, thereafter, tier-2 costs $0.32. My last month’s utility bill was ~200$ (includes gas). PG&E lies about temperatures, many many days in 90s last month with couple over 100-F. So basically charging Volt @ home will cost me tier-2 $0.32/kWhr. This is reality of actual utility bills. My friend Nicole who uses Volt for commuting says she pays $0.28 tier-2 due to low-income subsidies (PG&E still gets their $0.32). That comes to: 1000 miles/month / 2.7 miles/kWhr = 370 kWhr/month 370 kWhr / 0.867 ChrgEff = 427 kWhr/month from wall (about same as my entire household usage) 427 kWhr * 0.32 $/kWhr = 137$/month (120$/m with gov. subsidy) Or more than petrol auto getting 30mpg. If i buy used Prius hybrid that gets 50mpg, it’ll only cost me 76$/month to commute those same miles and Volt will never cost less to purchase or operate. I’ll stick with Ninja 250 for lowest operating costs and way faster commutes given Bay Area traffic. Last futzed with by DannoXYZ; September 7th, 2019 at 03:36 AM.