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Yakaru · December 2nd, 2019, 10:07 PM

So, as a long time CSS student (Hi @Misti ) one of the lessons that they cover is about how staying relaxed helps in a lot of ways, including helping the bike navigate any surface issues and preventing unintended inputs. As part of this they advise when you brake to use your thighs; squeezing the tank in order to absorb the force and prevent yourself from sliding forward.

Ken Hill and, to a potentially lesser extent, YCRS advocate that when you brake you want to carry all of the weight in your arms.

Two examples:
https://youtu.be/mbrTZbjNUec?t=270
https://youtu.be/76J0I2nzcFw?t=112

I've been in some classes with Ken where he refers to squeezing the tank as a poor technique, that while you want to use the outside leg in the corner you want to weight the hands as much as possible for braking (at least until tip in).

The second one is his instruction to steer by weighting the peg, which frankly comes off as completely ridiculous to me.

https://youtu.be/pUQt4o-HRlc?t=528
https://youtu.be/ynaS28BeH3k?t=71

I realize Ken is a fast rider who trains some amazing racers; but I still can't make sense of a lot of his instruction. Though I'll admit I've had more than a few major disagreements with him in particular so it may just be our personalities clashing.

Anyone have any thoughts?

December 2nd, 2019, 10:07 PM	#1
Yakaru The Violet Vixen Name: Yakaru Location: Issaquah, WA & Las Vegas, NV Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Perigee (250), Hotaru (250), Saturn (300), Pearl (300), Zero (S1000RR), Chibi (Z125), Xellos ('18 HP4R) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jun '16	Opposed Technique Instruction So, as a long time CSS student (Hi @Misti ) one of the lessons that they cover is about how staying relaxed helps in a lot of ways, including helping the bike navigate any surface issues and preventing unintended inputs. As part of this they advise when you brake to use your thighs; squeezing the tank in order to absorb the force and prevent yourself from sliding forward. Ken Hill and, to a potentially lesser extent, YCRS advocate that when you brake you want to carry all of the weight in your arms. Two examples: https://youtu.be/mbrTZbjNUec?t=270 https://youtu.be/76J0I2nzcFw?t=112 I've been in some classes with Ken where he refers to squeezing the tank as a poor technique, that while you want to use the outside leg in the corner you want to weight the hands as much as possible for braking (at least until tip in). The second one is his instruction to steer by weighting the peg, which frankly comes off as completely ridiculous to me. https://youtu.be/pUQt4o-HRlc?t=528 https://youtu.be/ynaS28BeH3k?t=71 I realize Ken is a fast rider who trains some amazing racers; but I still can't make sense of a lot of his instruction. Though I'll admit I've had more than a few major disagreements with him in particular so it may just be our personalities clashing. Anyone have any thoughts? __________________________________________________ "most folks racing this bike get it in a competitive state of being with much less invested than you've already put in Saturn." - Alex