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snot, when did you take yours? State 8 offered an extended class (the one I was going to take before the MSF told the dealers they couldn't do the MSF anymore), but all the ones available now through the state are 16 hours. 4 hours class time the first day, second day is more class time/range, third day range and test. I was told the classes at the TriC campus are the best one but that's a drive for me.