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Old March 2nd, 2010, 08:16 PM   #21
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Need 2 things to fix that as it's two separate problems. The overflow to the other side blinker pair is remedied by the diode fix mentioned in this thread. The fact that the blinkers are not continuing to blink is the relay not working properly. If my limited knowledge of the operation of the relay is correct, essentially it's not getting enough load on the system due to the decreased resistance from the LED lights all 'round. In theory, if you'd just replaced one of the flasher sets with LEDs, you'd be getting the fast-flash symptom instead of the single flash due to a 'closer to correct' electrical load on the system.
A new electronic flasher relay should fix that issue.

Here's a copy of a PM I sent to someone else on the subjects, don't feel like editing atm, been a long day
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The 'diode fix' does correct the problem of all 4 turn signal LEDs lighting when one side is triggered.

In theory, you could solder a diode to each flasher on the inbound side (see diagram in link below). I don't know of anyone that's actually done this, but electrically it should work. Only drawback is it needs 4 diodes rather than 2, which is where the other arrangement for this fix comes in.
EDIT: on further thought, this would likely not work as well as the following solution:

The more common fix is a pair of linked diodes under the dash like here:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...6&postcount=76

Then install it under your dash as shown here:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24500
and diagrammed here:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...&postcount=122

I can provide additional pics/pointers if needed.

I used a pair of IN4001 (50V, 1A silicone diode) when I did mine, which should be available at a local Radio Shack or other electronics store. Someone else mentioned the same model works for them, while another poster mentioned the IN4004 (a higher amperage rating but same idea). Worth noting I still have my stock flashers on the rear at the moment so I'm not 100% sure they're the exct right ones, but electrically speaking, any diode that can handle >12V and 1A+ should do ya just fine.

As for the relay, you will still need to swap it as that's a different issue than the diode-fix. We have a cheap thermal-based flasher stock, which doesn't handle the decreased electrical load well (hence the fast-flash). Anything that fits our stock plug (2 pins perpendicular to one another, I can get a pic if you want one before pulling your bike apart) that's rated for LED use should work. Someone quoted an FL-32 relay from their local auto parts store. Someone else cited using this one after modding the plug a little http://www.motrax.co.uk/index.php?mo...uct&id_prd=162. Yet another person says the LFS-1-FLAT from this site works, also after a little connector alteration http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-b...2Fflashers.htm.

Might take a look thru this thread if you haven't already:http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15282
It's long and there's a lot of info that can be confusing, but it's essentially all there.
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