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Buffalony · April 20th, 2009, 06:24 AM

Thats a nice and neat set. An intercom would be nice. guess you'll have to be on one really long call

Remember, most people underestimate the degree to which their hearing protects them from potential dangers within their immediate environment. And the problem goes beyond the fact that tightly fitting headphones prevent you from hearing ambient sounds. One can also become so immersed in the music that one becomes more profoundly isolated and distracted from what’s happening around you. When you have headphones on, your in a bubble of sound. Ride Safe. look around more.

These are cool too http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...FYZM5QodF0jRGA

Back to topic.I've been working non-stop.It sucks.

Take a look through here.
This is another of many threads going on right now on this topic, please read through it: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=86809 There are alot like this! about headphones while driving. The vast majority of responses are polite and asking to please not do it. If you mention this on a motorcycle forum, be prepared for pitch forks.lol I sure walked into this one with a cardboard turkey..

Quickly on another note:Thought this was fitting for this thread...At the moment I believe Canada is currently looking at banning portable playback devices in any vehicle. This is mainly because of the visual distraction. Though I guess it would hurt riders if LEOs spot wires going into your helmet or if your stopped and you cant get things hidden.Google it fer mo info. ..

I agree that it's tough to explain why headphones specifically earbuds are not as safe as a car stereo.This IS curently becoming a bigger issue around the world. You say you keep it low, I say... sure...cool... alot of people talk the talk

. "turning it up for just one song wont hurt!" so on so forth. If I were a teen in this situation I'd definitly say screw that keeping it down Sh!t..lol Earbuds wernt as advanced then either. Some do keep it down, but...

Guys, Its really not about how loud it is, its about where its coming from. They screw with the whole ability to more quickly acknowledge where a given sound is coming from. On top of that it takes longer to get through the initial "did I hear something" phase. Because theres an absense of the whole subconciously known, "source of origin". (think i said that right) I know, I know...now your saying "well the earbuds are known". thats not what I'm talking about. I'm sayin placing two small speakers, 3' infront of you, 1.5' below ear level, 1.5' apart Is waay different (or even one). You just know alot sooner if something is going on outside of that, and a heck of alot faster determining where it is coming from.
Read alittle of the links on sound masking in the wiki link and the last link, and think alittle about how likely it is to be taking place with a speaker directly in your ear.

I believe better understanding on the public debate aspect of headphone use in general, and this thread, can come from more research into Psycho-acoustics. imo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics

partial link for more into my last paragraph. About hearing and direction
Hearing and Direction:http://www.school-for-champions.com/...rdirection.htm

Another good link.Masking paragraph is good.http://arts.ucsc.edu/ems/music/tech_.../teces_03.html

If you want to know what I meant about a specfic phrase or sentence, post asking.

April 20th, 2009, 06:24 AM	#40
Buffalony ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Joe Location: Buffalo NY Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 "Wasabi", 82 Yamaha xj650j Posts: A lot.	Thats a nice and neat set. An intercom would be nice. guess you'll have to be on one really long call Remember, most people underestimate the degree to which their hearing protects them from potential dangers within their immediate environment. And the problem goes beyond the fact that tightly fitting headphones prevent you from hearing ambient sounds. One can also become so immersed in the music that one becomes more profoundly isolated and distracted from what’s happening around you. When you have headphones on, your in a bubble of sound. Ride Safe. look around more. These are cool too http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...FYZM5QodF0jRGA Back to topic.I've been working non-stop.It sucks. Take a look through here. This is another of many threads going on right now on this topic, please read through it: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=86809 There are alot like this! about headphones while driving. The vast majority of responses are polite and asking to please not do it. If you mention this on a motorcycle forum, be prepared for pitch forks.lol I sure walked into this one with a cardboard turkey.. Quickly on another note:Thought this was fitting for this thread...At the moment I believe Canada is currently looking at banning portable playback devices in any vehicle. This is mainly because of the visual distraction. Though I guess it would hurt riders if LEOs spot wires going into your helmet or if your stopped and you cant get things hidden.Google it fer mo info. .. I agree that it's tough to explain why headphones specifically earbuds are not as safe as a car stereo.This IS curently becoming a bigger issue around the world. You say you keep it low, I say... sure...cool... alot of people talk the talk. "turning it up for just one song wont hurt!" so on so forth. If I were a teen in this situation I'd definitly say screw that keeping it down Sh!t..lol Earbuds wernt as advanced then either. Some do keep it down, but... Guys, Its really not about how loud it is, its about where its coming from. They screw with the whole ability to more quickly acknowledge where a given sound is coming from. On top of that it takes longer to get through the initial "did I hear something" phase. Because theres an absense of the whole subconciously known, "source of origin". (think i said that right) I know, I know...now your saying "well the earbuds are known". thats not what I'm talking about. I'm sayin placing two small speakers, 3' infront of you, 1.5' below ear level, 1.5' apart Is waay different (or even one). You just know alot sooner if something is going on outside of that, and a heck of alot faster determining where it is coming from. Read alittle of the links on sound masking in the wiki link and the last link, and think alittle about how likely it is to be taking place with a speaker directly in your ear. I believe better understanding on the public debate aspect of headphone use in general, and this thread, can come from more research into Psycho-acoustics. imo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics partial link for more into my last paragraph. About hearing and direction Hearing and Direction:http://www.school-for-champions.com/...rdirection.htm Another good link.Masking paragraph is good.http://arts.ucsc.edu/ems/music/tech_.../teces_03.html If you want to know what I meant about a specfic phrase or sentence, post asking. __________________________________________________ Last futzed with by Buffalony; April 20th, 2009 at 08:18 AM.