July 25th, 2012, 03:01 PM | #1 |
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First crash. I never thought it'd happen
Just got back from my first crash. My friends thought I should experience a canyon and take it slow, but apparently slow in a CBR1000/CBR600 is different than slow in a 250. About an hour in, I start getting my groove, taking the turns and trying to keep up (50mph on the turns. not super sharp turns though so they were alright). some tunnels, some debris, some dangerous moments, but they were fine. taking a good turn really is a great feeling.
well one turn, i took too wide. ended up running off the road into the mountain. forgot to pull clutch, so the gravel jerked my throttle, which jerked by bike. rode up the hillside for a few feet, then blacked out. woke up lying on the opposite side of the road. the 250 is on its stand and everybody's kind of huddled around it. didn't have the money for full leathers so i bought a cheap jacket (think cycle gear brand). jacket rode up, lower back is bloody. pulled my groin so i can't walk. sprained thumb. still have a concussion and a headache. one of the guys fixed the bike up a little and we rode back home. damage to the bike (that i could see): bent left handle bar scraped/broke left bottom fairing broke rear left fairing integrated tail light broke (MOTHER*** JUST PUT THAT IN LAST WEEKEND) bent clutch lever broke off kick stand safety thing tons of scrapes on the paint. overall, i am very sad 3 weeks of riding and babying her and BAM. i parked her and i covered her and said my goodbyes. once i can walk again, i'll assess the damage and see how much it costs (i'm in college, so $300 is like, a month of rent/groceries) Edit: and shower is a complete ***** too. i'm just bitter at everything right now. Last futzed with by coolcatjames; July 25th, 2012 at 03:06 PM. Reason: additional comment i wanted to make |
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July 25th, 2012, 03:24 PM | #2 |
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Don't worry about the bike. It is now an official track bike. Get well then go to the track and you won't have to worry about a few more scrapes and scratches as you learn to ride the beast to max performance.
Remember when everyone on the forum said that the 250 will go around corners better than a 600 or 1000? Well, it must have been your fault for going down (the bike would have made the turn). Harsh statement but true. Don't forget girls love scares (circumcisions don't count; although I always ask if they want to see it).
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July 25th, 2012, 03:40 PM | #3 |
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Glad to hear you're okay!
Isn't that the worst? ..breaking something you JUST did to your bike |
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July 25th, 2012, 03:40 PM | #4 | |
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July 25th, 2012, 03:44 PM | #5 |
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First off, I'm glad you made it out OK, no damage you won't recover from.
I went to my first canyon ride a couple of weeks ago, and the first thing they told me is to go at my own pace. I went real slow at first and gradually picked up the pace within my comfort zone. I think you should heed that advice next time you go up in the canyons, and as they say keep the shiny side up. Get better soon and hope you get back on two wheels! |
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July 25th, 2012, 03:53 PM | #6 |
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They took me to the 150 -> 33 route. It wasn't bad in the beginning. I fell on the 33, about 5-6 turns past the second tunnel.
And yea, points taken. Once i'm back, I'll fix up the bike and take it slower, hopefully work up the skills to not embarrass myself on a track, and then we'll see. I walked around the turn after I crashed, and it didn't seem that bad. Just a regular turn. I should've had it, but i dunno. I wish my first crash was a lowside instead of a ride-into-a-mountain. Hours of watching rnickeymouse on youtube doesn't prepare you for the real thing. |
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July 25th, 2012, 04:05 PM | #7 | |
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July 25th, 2012, 04:05 PM | #8 |
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A lot of fatalities I believe are attributed to this. Young guys trying to show each other up, riding beyond their limits. You won't become a great rider overnight, so don't feel embarrassed of going slow. Let them talk **** all they want for now, you'll get there eventually. Count yourself lucky not becoming a statistic, and always put safety first.
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July 25th, 2012, 04:08 PM | #9 |
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hope you learned something from it. maybe we should have a get-together-and-fix-james'-bike-back-up party
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July 25th, 2012, 06:19 PM | #10 |
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Sorry, James.
Evidently my post on your other thread was too late: http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showp...9&postcount=13 Wish you a quick recovery.
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July 25th, 2012, 06:28 PM | #11 |
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Glad you were able to get home and walk away.
It does unfortunately happen to too many of us. The thing you need to do from this is learn. Don't beat yourself up - that's what we're here I put mine down on the third ride - after I had spent the night before cleaning it up. Let your mind heal and get on again but take it slow. I would recommend riding by yourself for a while. Other riders often support us, but I felt pressured to push myself to keep up. It's not worth it. Finally, if you haven't already look at taking a MSF class it's a great foundation to build the rest of your safe riding career on! |
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July 25th, 2012, 07:07 PM | #12 | |
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I read all the input/advice that members here post, just sometimes when I ride, its hard to keep thinking of everything and paying attention to the road. |
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July 25th, 2012, 07:09 PM | #13 | |
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July 25th, 2012, 08:05 PM | #14 |
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First crash and you walked/drove away, it was a good crash.
"First crash. I never thought it'd happen", now you know it can that's always a good thing. Only thing I would say is understand what you did wrong so you don't do it again, be honest with yourself when you analysis the crash. PS. chicks don't dig scars, the bad ones make them cringe. |
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July 25th, 2012, 08:13 PM | #15 | |
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These are not skills and reflexes to be rationalized, simple because they aren't natural to human beings. Our brains are wired to do, in survival situations, exactly what is bad for motorcycling. Excessive speed, and the lack of space illusion that it creates, is the number one trigger of the wrong moves; therefore, new riders need to increase riding speed methodically and at a comfortable pace. As much as possible, try staying away from groups, bad weather and heavy traffic during the first weeks of practice, while you develop the proper automatic reactions. Also, read books and watch videos about street and sport riding; they help much. I know you feel bad; just want you to learn from this accident. I'm too far to join the helping group.
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July 25th, 2012, 08:44 PM | #16 |
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Pics or it didn't happen
Here's the damage that I can see. Anybody have spares. Just ordered a new tail light :P
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July 25th, 2012, 10:13 PM | #17 |
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So very sorry to read about your misfortune brother. Sh!t happens, learn from it and strive to make yourself better. Bike's can always be fixed.
Talking about fixing your baby, I have a stock left handlebar, and if your shifter is damaged I have the entire rearset as well. Holler @ me Get well soon.
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July 26th, 2012, 06:17 PM | #18 |
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i hope you get back on the road soon.
if the frame isnt bent, your bike is in better condition than mine after my 50mph wreck. |
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July 26th, 2012, 06:41 PM | #19 |
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Glad to hear you'll be saddling up again once you're healed.
Always ride your own ride. Today I was going too fast, mainly because some jackass in a mustang was tailing me too closely. For awhile I just kept increasing speed, until I realized just how uncomfortable I was at the pace being set, pulled off to the shoulder, let him go by. But I get it. I'm new, only 1500 miles under my belt and the ninja corners so sweetly it's hard not to get overconfident. |
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July 26th, 2012, 07:40 PM | #20 |
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I did warn ya about 154, didn't think about 33
Glad you didn't end up departing the road on the downward side of the mountain! Don't be bitter, you've picked the best place on the planet to go to college. You'll be better and the bike will eventually be even better than before. Hey, by the way, is the Great Fish Enterprise Co. still open? (It's been a decade since I've been to the hometown). |
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July 26th, 2012, 08:16 PM | #21 |
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July 26th, 2012, 08:29 PM | #22 |
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The process of taking it apart is a horrible feeling. But I've noticed a few things and I've come across some problems that hopefully someone can help me with:
1. My rear seat is stuck. I think when I fell, it got jammed there. Should I just cut it out at the plastic and order a new rear cowl and lock? 2. My rear frame is slightly bent. I don't it matters too much when it comes to placing fairings and the tail light, but it still bugs me. Ideas? 3. The black plastics around the tail light are scratched. Does anybody know a good place to pick up spares? I would rather not go to a Kawa dealer. They probably charge up the ***. 4. In taking off the left handlebar, the metal screw head is starting to strip and the bar end is not moving. I'm scared to continue as I've never done this before, nor did I plan to this soon. This is a SUPER downer feeling. Its like, somebody ripped the fun out of my world. |
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July 26th, 2012, 09:22 PM | #23 | ||
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July 26th, 2012, 09:54 PM | #24 |
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use some heat on those bar ends, they are secured with loctite from the factory.
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July 26th, 2012, 11:28 PM | #25 |
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I feel really bad for you! I hope everything is sorted out soon though!
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July 27th, 2012, 01:09 AM | #26 |
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Learn and live man I went down my first day trying to keep up. Ive stayed patient and keep up with my buds on the 600's. Best thing I learned was even on new roads we go on I go at my pace and they can wait on me.
Showers will be a Bi*& for a while. Hope you have a speedy recovery. |
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July 27th, 2012, 07:06 AM | #27 |
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"I never thought it would happen" is what they all say...but it still happens to the best of us.
Dress for the slide not the ride...
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I hope your CBR1000/CBR600 friends are willing to help.
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July 28th, 2012, 09:11 PM | #30 |
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very sorry you wrecked ur bike, as everyone else has said, glad ur ok. i dont think everyone should start on a ninja 250, i think everyone should start on a pregen ninja 250, that way when something like this happens ur not out 3-4k. you have alot of work ahead of you, but you will appreciate and respect your bike along with riding in general once ur done. it took me 2 months and 40$ to build my first ninja 250 pregen (scrap bikes where given to me) after all that work i treated and respected that bike like it was the 636 of my dreams. i think alot of people should do this, it realy helps a rider get a grasp on eveything.
get well soon man, and next time ur buddies wanna take u on a mountain, shoot em with a paint ball gun >=)
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July 29th, 2012, 01:15 PM | #31 |
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Same reason I had my first crash, I was trying to keep up with an agitated expert rider(He got pissed because a guy cut in front of him and he challenged him on the twisties, I didn't know that was the case, so I tried my best to keep-up with him because he was the lead, I rode over my limits, scrapping my footpegs every turn but in the end my kick stand got caught and I was thrown in the air and then end-up hitting the pavement). I'm blessed though, cause I've been active here in the forums. And one thing this forums has told me was to always dress-up for the crash.
Lesson: Always ride your own ride. I now have more respect for my bike now, I never go over 80% of what I can do(Sometimes I need to though). And I've only scrapped my foot-pegs once this year (I learned to ride more "correctly"). |
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Aww man, I'm so sorry. This sounds horrifying to me. I always hear the worst stories without full gear. How did you heal up?
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August 30th, 2015, 12:52 AM | #33 |
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August 30th, 2015, 01:30 AM | #34 |
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I think he's over it. It has been 3+ years ago.
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^^^ haven't crashed yet, hope to never, glad you're ok tho bro, sorry about your bike
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Generally speaking very few people who hop on bikes have that mentality and even the ones that do don't always have the luck to not get smacked by a car or an animal for the record, I am not one of those lucky/safe people. If you want to go fast at any point get to the track, it's a lot safer
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September 24th, 2015, 05:02 PM | #39 |
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My only crashes are at the track, pushing to become faster. Becoming faster for racing inevitably leads to crashing.
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it is my hope that I never crash outside of a track environment ever again
not riding remotely fast on the streets helps with that but there's always that bit of luck
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