Fair Prices For 2005 pregens

etiainen · March 3rd, 2012, 05:11 PM

My friend and I have been looking for bikes as his first bike. Of course telling him to get a Ninjette

He seems pretty ok with the used pre-gen idea, so we're going to look at some '05 pre-gens tomorrow.

One has 5k, one with 10800, and one with 14k. Pictures look ok, but we all know how reliable they can be

5k one is listed as 2000, 10800 as 2200(negotiable supposedly), and 14k as 1800(also listed as negotiable)

Thoughts?

I will be obnoxiously scrutinising these tomorrow

bob706 · March 3rd, 2012, 05:31 PM

Without seeing them I would start around $1400 and don't go above $1800

greenaero · March 3rd, 2012, 05:51 PM

Hi, the Kelley Bluebook pricing for a 2005 EX250 with an average of 9800 miles on it is $1945 ( retail , excellent condition ) to $1285 ( trade-in value, good condition ). To me they are all priced too high and I would be offering much less than their asking prices. I would cite the KBB trade-in value as your basis. Ask for service records, test ride the bikes paying particular attention to frame damage.
Good luck!

etiainen · March 3rd, 2012, 07:16 PM

Thanks for the numbers. Yeah I will try to offer less and see what happens. I'm not the best haggler

But I do agree that those prices are too high, typical Craigslist......

greg737 · March 3rd, 2012, 07:31 PM

You'll know how much they're worth when you see them.

I looked for quite a while, saw a lot of crap bikes. Everything that I found on Craigslist was garbage (wrecked, dropped, badly weathered from being stored outside, cracked fairings, ear-splitting "boy racer" aftermarket exhausts).

Finally happened on a listing in the local paper.

When the garage door rolled up and I saw my future '05 sitting there: low miles, not a single scratch, obviously pampered, always garaged, I knew that I was going to go ahead and pay the woman what she was asking (yes, bought it from a girl). Paid $2400 in July of 2007.

Good luck finding a good one.

etiainen · March 3rd, 2012, 07:34 PM

All of them are silver '05s lol.

Fingers crossed for a well kept one.

If my friend ever wants to get rid of it, I will be first in line

Can't have too many 250s.

etiainen · March 6th, 2012, 08:59 PM

So, we got one of the '05s yesterday. Seller was second owner, but put most of the mileage on the bike. Pretty well maintained. Seller was extremely nice and made the transaction a snap. I test rode it and rode it 40 mins back to my friend's house. I took it on the highway and it performed quite well. Actually it was comfier than my old newgen on the highway. I actually enjoyed it more than I thought I would.

Just needs a valve adjustment/carb sync, gonna put aside a Saturday for that

(yay no shims)

Here are some pics:

Dano · March 6th, 2012, 09:11 PM

so which one of the 3 did he buy?

etiainen · March 6th, 2012, 09:24 PM

Second one, with 10893 miles on it. Sorry, forgot to mention that

greg737 · March 7th, 2012, 06:15 AM

That is a very nice looking '05!

And Galaxy Silver #2 is without doubt the fastest color.

n4mwd · March 7th, 2012, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etiainen

He seems pretty ok with the used pre-gen idea, so we're going to look at some '05 pre-gens tomorrow.

One has 5k, one with 10800, and one with 14k. Pictures look ok, but we all know how reliable they can be

With regular maintenance, they are VERY reliable. With the pregen, Kawasaki managed to merge high performance with high fuel economy (avg 65-70 mpg). He wont regret buying it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg737

That is a very nice looking '05!

And Galaxy Silver #2 is without doubt the fastest color.

I think I am detecting some bias there.

cbdallas · March 7th, 2012, 06:51 AM

I managed to squeeze $1800 out of my 2005. One mark on the fairing, otherwise perfect. Pre-gen value has taken a hard hit this year. If it's not pretty close to perfect, they're not gonna get full KBB for it ($1900 in my area).

etiainen · March 7th, 2012, 09:04 AM

Yeah the bike does look great. When I said "reliable" I was pointing to the reliability of craigslist not the bike itself. It's sometimes hard to tell from a cragislist ad whether or not the bike was taken care of. This one was, so

n4mwd · March 7th, 2012, 11:29 AM

Craig's list does have a few winners. A LOT of bikes advertised do not have titles or have salvage titles which is pretty much the same thing.

My favorite was a kid who advertised a bike with the text "Bank has title but its OK because they wont know where you live."

bjorn240 · March 23rd, 2012, 06:15 AM

I just paid $1800 for a 2005 Galaxy Silver, but it had 1676 miles on it, one 58-year-old prior owner, all service records, and perfect shape. I agree that the new ceiling on these bikes is $1750-1800, and that's for a PERFECT example.

That said, I think a really nice pre-gen is a great buy, even at that price. They're a reliable motorcycle, cheap on gas, and the parts inventory is vast. Really the only competition is the ZG1000 Connies, but that's obviously a much bigger bike.

greg737 · March 23rd, 2012, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorn240

I just paid $1800 for a 2005 Galaxy Silver, but it had 1676 miles on it, one 58-year-old prior owner, all service records, and perfect shape. I agree that the new ceiling on these bikes is $1750-1800, and that's for a PERFECT example.

That said, I think a really nice pre-gen is a great buy, even at that price. They're a reliable motorcycle, cheap on gas, and the parts inventory is vast. Really the only competition is the ZG1000 Connies, but that's obviously a much bigger bike.

congradulations on finding a good one, it's getting harder and harder to find really nice pre-gens. Yours sounds like a particularly fine example, with only 1600 miles, wow! That's a pre-gen "well bought" as they say at auctions.

bjorn240 · March 23rd, 2012, 07:06 PM

Thanks. Yeah, I lucked into this one. It's often a case of being the guy who's got cash ready and is ready to hop in the car and go. When this one came up, I jumped at it. With used bikes, it's often "buy the seller, not the bike."

I think the pre gens do still have a lot of appeal as a practical bike for everyday use - that's why I was specifically looking for a clean stock one.

I think the new Ninjas are a little too sporty (and still expensive), CBR250s and TU250s are still too new and have small used-parts markets. TeeDubs struggle to keep highway speeds (but are otherwise just about the most amusing thing there is). XT225s are great - six-speed box helps - but otherwise, I think the old baby Ninja is still by far the most-practical small displacement bike there is.

Have put about 250 miles on it since Wednesday. I should double the current mileage in about two weeks.

March 3rd, 2012, 05:11 PM	#1
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	Fair Prices For 2005 pregens My friend and I have been looking for bikes as his first bike. Of course telling him to get a Ninjette He seems pretty ok with the used pre-gen idea, so we're going to look at some '05 pre-gens tomorrow. One has 5k, one with 10800, and one with 14k. Pictures look ok, but we all know how reliable they can be 5k one is listed as 2000, 10800 as 2200(negotiable supposedly), and 14k as 1800(also listed as negotiable) Thoughts? I will be obnoxiously scrutinising these tomorrow

March 7th, 2012, 11:29 AM	#14
n4mwd ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: D Location: Palm Beach, FL Join Date: Oct 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Ninja 250R, 2007 EFI Ninja 250R Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 1	Craig's list does have a few winners. A LOT of bikes advertised do not have titles or have salvage titles which is pretty much the same thing. My favorite was a kid who advertised a bike with the text "Bank has title but its OK because they wont know where you live." __________________________________________________ My Ninja Blog Proud member of ABATE.My NYC Road Rage documentary - CENSORED!

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bob706 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Mary Esther, FL Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 1998 HD Road King Posts: A lot.	Without seeing them I would start around $1400 and don't go above $1800 __________________________________________________ http://sandollarmotorcycleclub.com/

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greenaero Motorcycle Hypermiler Name: Vic Location: Livermore CA Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1999 & 2005 Kawasaki Ninja 250R's Posts: A lot.	Hi, the Kelley Bluebook pricing for a 2005 EX250 with an average of 9800 miles on it is $1945 ( retail , excellent condition ) to $1285 ( trade-in value, good condition ). To me they are all priced too high and I would be offering much less than their asking prices. I would cite the KBB trade-in value as your basis. Ask for service records, test ride the bikes paying particular attention to frame damage. Good luck!

March 3rd, 2012, 07:16 PM	#4
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	Thanks for the numbers. Yeah I will try to offer less and see what happens. I'm not the best haggler But I do agree that those prices are too high, typical Craigslist......

March 3rd, 2012, 07:31 PM	#5
greg737 - Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	You'll know how much they're worth when you see them. I looked for quite a while, saw a lot of crap bikes. Everything that I found on Craigslist was garbage (wrecked, dropped, badly weathered from being stored outside, cracked fairings, ear-splitting "boy racer" aftermarket exhausts). Finally happened on a listing in the local paper. When the garage door rolled up and I saw my future '05 sitting there: low miles, not a single scratch, obviously pampered, always garaged, I knew that I was going to go ahead and pay the woman what she was asking (yes, bought it from a girl). Paid $2400 in July of 2007. Good luck finding a good one.

March 3rd, 2012, 07:34 PM	#6
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	All of them are silver '05s lol. Fingers crossed for a well kept one. If my friend ever wants to get rid of it, I will be first in line Can't have too many 250s.

March 6th, 2012, 09:11 PM	#8
Dano ninjette.org sage Name: Dan Location: Perryopolis, PA Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09' Blue Ninja 250R and 07' Honda 919 Posts: 605	so which one of the 3 did he buy?

March 6th, 2012, 09:24 PM	#9
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	Second one, with 10893 miles on it. Sorry, forgot to mention that

March 7th, 2012, 06:15 AM	#10
greg737 - Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	That is a very nice looking '05! And Galaxy Silver #2 is without doubt the fastest color.

March 7th, 2012, 09:04 AM	#13
etiainen CBR250R Traitor Name: Jon Location: Greater Philadelphia Area Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Red CBR250R 2009 Ninja 250r SE(With 2008 Fairings)(sold) Posts: 924	Yeah the bike does look great. When I said "reliable" I was pointing to the reliability of craigslist not the bike itself. It's sometimes hard to tell from a cragislist ad whether or not the bike was taken care of. This one was, so

March 23rd, 2012, 06:15 AM	#15
bjorn240 ninjette.org member Name: Christian Location: Westchester Cty Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): EX250F and ~10 past ones Posts: 11	I just paid $1800 for a 2005 Galaxy Silver, but it had 1676 miles on it, one 58-year-old prior owner, all service records, and perfect shape. I agree that the new ceiling on these bikes is $1750-1800, and that's for a PERFECT example. That said, I think a really nice pre-gen is a great buy, even at that price. They're a reliable motorcycle, cheap on gas, and the parts inventory is vast. Really the only competition is the ZG1000 Connies, but that's obviously a much bigger bike.

March 23rd, 2012, 07:06 PM	#17
bjorn240 ninjette.org member Name: Christian Location: Westchester Cty Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): EX250F and ~10 past ones Posts: 11	Thanks. Yeah, I lucked into this one. It's often a case of being the guy who's got cash ready and is ready to hop in the car and go. When this one came up, I jumped at it. With used bikes, it's often "buy the seller, not the bike." I think the pre gens do still have a lot of appeal as a practical bike for everyday use - that's why I was specifically looking for a clean stock one. I think the new Ninjas are a little too sporty (and still expensive), CBR250s and TU250s are still too new and have small used-parts markets. TeeDubs struggle to keep highway speeds (but are otherwise just about the most amusing thing there is). XT225s are great - six-speed box helps - but otherwise, I think the old baby Ninja is still by far the most-practical small displacement bike there is. Have put about 250 miles on it since Wednesday. I should double the current mileage in about two weeks.