2010 250r Exhaust Discussion

SoccerScotty5 · August 10th, 2013, 02:18 PM

I have a 2010 250r and i am about to purchase a full exhaust system very soon. i had a few questions as to which exhaust i should get. my choices so far:

Tyga Maggot Full Exhaust

Yoshimura TRC Full Exhaust

M4 Full Exhaust

i was just wondering how much difference in horsepower and speed these 3 different exhaust had (if any). or if i am just going to be paying more for the name brand rather than the actual performance. any advice would be helpful, thank you

ninjamunky85 · August 10th, 2013, 02:21 PM

Option 4) Area P

Edit: Not that I'm biased or anything.

SoccerScotty5 · August 10th, 2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

Option 4) Area P

would an Area P be better i haven't looked into them

Aodrn · August 10th, 2013, 02:24 PM

I had a dan moto carbon fiber can with stock header. It was very loud.
I now have an area p full exhaust. It is also very loud. The power feels a little more fat over the mid and top end with the full exhaust. I will say that the area p can is significantly heavier than the dan moto one. I tried using the dan moto can with the area p header, but the pipe sizes didn't jive.
A tuner once told me that full exhaust usually will be very similiar between brands, but may sacrifice power mid to gain high or vice versa. When dealing with slip ons, he said that he never really sees a power difference between brands, so it is more a fit, finish, sound issue.
I don't have specific info on what you asked, but that is my two cents.

SoccerScotty5 · August 10th, 2013, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aodrn

I had a dan moto carbon fiber can with stock header. It was very loud.
I now have an area p full exhaust. It is also very loud. The power feels a little more fat over the mid and top end with the full exhaust. I will say that the area p can is significantly heavier than the dan moto one. I tried using the dan moto can with the area p header, but the pipe sizes didn't jive.
A tuner once told me that full exhaust usually will be very similiar between brands, but may sacrifice power mid to gain high or vice versa. When dealing with slip ons, he said that he never really sees a power difference between brands, so it is more a fit, finish, sound issue.
I don't have specific info on what you asked, but that is my two cents.

thanks i appreciate it. i am just torn between which one i want to get. if there isnt much difference between the full exhausts then i would probably just decide by which sound i like best. the only bad part is that it is hard to tell what sound i like best through youtube videos.

ninjamunky85 · August 10th, 2013, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoccerScotty5

would an Area P be better i haven't looked into them

Yes, check out their website.

Soujyu · August 10th, 2013, 02:43 PM

Don't get a custom exhaust. You'll barely gain any worthwhile power out of it, and you'll have to rejet your carburetors to get everything to work properly. Stick with the stock exhaust.

If you really need that much extra power, buy a more powerful bike instead.

krolinked · August 10th, 2013, 02:54 PM

Yes! Keep the stock exhaust, These bikes sound way better with stock in my opinion. All aftermarket exhausts are always loud and annoying!

SoccerScotty5 · August 10th, 2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

Yes, check out their website.

US$525.00 Full Stainless Steel System, 18" Quiet Carbon Fiber Muffler
US$495.00 Full Stainless Steel System, Standard 12" Carbon Fiber Muffler
US$450.00 Full Stainless Steel System, Standard 12" Stainless Muffler

what is the difference between the 18" and 12"?

ninjamunky85 · August 10th, 2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SoccerScotty5

US$525.00 Full Stainless Steel System, 18" Quiet Carbon Fiber Muffler
US$495.00 Full Stainless Steel System, Standard 12" Carbon Fiber Muffler
US$450.00 Full Stainless Steel System, Standard 12" Stainless Muffler

what is the difference between the 18" and 12"?

Noise mostly, the 18" will barely be louder than the stock exhaust, the 12" will be louder. Still not "loud", IMO.

I know it isn't cheap, but I would argue that it's a better investment on a small bike like the 250. A bike that you are actually using all available power, and a 5hp increase will really make a difference.

SoccerScotty5 · August 10th, 2013, 11:30 PM

if I buy a full exhaust do I have to get a jet kit and get it jetted right away or could I wait a whike to get it jetted?

rasta · August 11th, 2013, 12:50 AM

Waaaait do you have to rejet with a Yoshi slip on? I was under the impressions it's as simple as slip on-and-go

Alex · August 11th, 2013, 01:04 AM

/moved to new-gen tech

http://www.ninjette.org/wiki/Exhaust_Info

ForceofWill · August 11th, 2013, 06:26 AM

Get the Area-p and a jet kit. Do the filter while you're at it too. My bike picked up a good chunk of power from intake and exhaust. Raced a stock 250 on the highway and walked him good all the way to 115.

ForceofWill · August 11th, 2013, 06:27 AM

I actually prefer the 18" sound. Its still a good volume and sounds great. But its not obnoxious loud.

dailowill · August 11th, 2013, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoccerScotty5

if I buy a full exhaust do I have to get a jet kit and get it jetted right away or could I wait a whike to get it jetted?

I have the 18" Area P and you can definitely install it and start riding without jetting. I think that if you want to extract the most power out of the exhaust you would want to jet it.

SoccerScotty5 · August 11th, 2013, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceofWill

I actually prefer the 18" sound. Its still a good volume and sounds great. But its not obnoxious loud.

oh ok i see. ya it sucks trying to listen to all the different ones on youtube to try and make a decision. its not even close to what it would sound like in person

SoccerScotty5 · August 11th, 2013, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dailowill

I have the 18" Area P and you can definitely install it and start riding without jetting. I think that if you want to extract the most power out of the exhaust you would want to jet it.

ok thanks thats what i was hoping for. cuz i dont think the wife would be too happy if i spent $500+ on a full exhaust and then had to get it jetted right away. definitely have to save up to get it jetted

subxero · August 11th, 2013, 01:35 PM

I have Nojima Moto gp i really like it, it is loud though. it was cheap here http://www.shop.kyleusa.com/product.sc?productId=271

YunMing · August 11th, 2013, 01:59 PM

I think you should just save that money for a different bike

Soujyu · August 12th, 2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SoccerScotty5

ok thanks thats what i was hoping for. cuz i dont think the wife would be too happy if i spent $500+ on a full exhaust and then had to get it jetted right away. definitely have to save up to get it jetted

You have to get it rejetted, or else your engine will run like crap.

You might as well make your wife even happier by not even spending the $500 and keeping the stock exhaust.

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/Exhaust

Just trust us on this. Keep the stock exhaust, and don't look like a fool on the streets, and don't open yourself to having to pay fines and having your bike impounded because the cops can nab you for a non-stock exhaust.

ForceofWill · August 12th, 2013, 04:22 PM

Lol trust who? And watch out for those bike impounding fines from exhaust, they'll get ya. I feel like I'm being trolled.

Aodrn · August 12th, 2013, 04:26 PM

I'm pretty sure the area p instructions even say that jetting is not necessary. It will give more power however.

Soujyu · August 12th, 2013, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aodrn

I'm pretty sure the area p instructions even say that jetting is not necessary. It will give more power however.

If it were only a slip-on, and not a full exhaust, then that would be correct, except that it would not give more power.

However, the OP wanted a full exhaust.

ForceofWill · August 12th, 2013, 04:38 PM

Jetting is not as hard as people are making it out to be. The kits come with everything and its all easy to take off.

gantt · August 12th, 2013, 04:51 PM

I heard an area P 18 inch the other day. that will definitely be the exhaust i buy when i get around to it. love the way it looks. but $500+ isnt chump change either.

Aodrn · August 12th, 2013, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soujyu

If it were only a slip-on, and not a full exhaust, then that would be correct, except that it would not give more power.

However, the OP wanted a full exhaust.

I meant full exhaust. I'll try to find the link.

Soujyu · August 12th, 2013, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceofWill

Jetting is not as hard as people are making it out to be. The kits come with everything and its all easy to take off.

I personally think removing the carbs is a lot more difficult than doing what is required for a valve adjustment. You don't really have a lot of space to work in that section of the engine.

Aodrn · August 12th, 2013, 06:06 PM

Never mind, I was wrong.
http://www.areapnolimits.com/product...-250R-2008.php

ForceofWill · August 12th, 2013, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soujyu

I personally think removing the carbs is a lot more difficult than doing what is required for a valve adjustment. You don't really have a lot of space to work in that section of the engine.

I ripped that air box out and I'm running a k&n so I have tons of space. But you're right if you want to keep the stock box its a bitch.

SoccerScotty5 · August 12th, 2013, 07:17 PM

I bought a tyga maggot exhaust because it was the cheapest, about how much riding time do you think I'd have before I'd need to get it rejetted. Also, what are your thoughts on buying a jet kit and rejetting it yourself?

rc-rick · August 12th, 2013, 08:32 PM

Check into Leo Vince also.

Soujyu · August 12th, 2013, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForceofWill

I ripped that air box out and I'm running a k&n so I have tons of space. But you're right if you want to keep the stock box its a bitch.

Yeah, when I had my 250R, I pretty much kept everything stock. I figured that the airbox must serve some purpose that is not known to an idiot like me, so I didn't rip any of that out.

SoccerScotty5 · August 13th, 2013, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rc-rick

Check into Leo Vince also.

ya I like the leo vince but it is too expensive. I got a full tyga maggot exhaust for only $400

August 10th, 2013, 02:18 PM	#1
SoccerScotty5 ninjette.org newbie Name: Scott Location: Hanford, CA Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250r Posts: 9	2010 250r Exhaust Discussion I have a 2010 250r and i am about to purchase a full exhaust system very soon. i had a few questions as to which exhaust i should get. my choices so far: Tyga Maggot Full Exhaust Yoshimura TRC Full Exhaust M4 Full Exhaust i was just wondering how much difference in horsepower and speed these 3 different exhaust had (if any). or if i am just going to be paying more for the name brand rather than the actual performance. any advice would be helpful, thank you

August 10th, 2013, 02:21 PM	#2
ninjamunky85 Que Buenos Son!!! Name: Ryan Location: Grovetucky, OH Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia Shiver 750, Husaberg FE 450, Ninja 300 (sold), xr100 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '14	Option 4) Area P Edit: Not that I'm biased or anything. __________________________________________________ Don't do something because it's easy,.. Do it because it's not! If you aren't going forward, then you're falling behind. "Drive it like you stole it"!!!

August 10th, 2013, 02:43 PM	#7
Soujyu ninjette.org sage Name: W Location: Austin, TX Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R (sold), 2012 Tuono V4R Posts: 512	Don't get a custom exhaust. You'll barely gain any worthwhile power out of it, and you'll have to rejet your carburetors to get everything to work properly. Stick with the stock exhaust. If you really need that much extra power, buy a more powerful bike instead. __________________________________________________ 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250R - "Aria" (sold) 2012 Aprilia Tuono V4R - "Perrine" Proof that Harleys and Ninjettes are friendly with each other

August 10th, 2013, 02:54 PM	#8
krolinked Nerd Name: Chris Location: Tujunga Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ducati Hyperstrada Posts: 672	Yes! Keep the stock exhaust, These bikes sound way better with stock in my opinion. All aftermarket exhausts are always loud and annoying! __________________________________________________ It doesn't LOOK that steep. But you can go first...

August 11th, 2013, 01:04 AM	#13
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August 10th, 2013, 02:24 PM	#4
Aodrn It's a long boring story Name: Ryan Location: St. Louis Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 167	I had a dan moto carbon fiber can with stock header. It was very loud. I now have an area p full exhaust. It is also very loud. The power feels a little more fat over the mid and top end with the full exhaust. I will say that the area p can is significantly heavier than the dan moto one. I tried using the dan moto can with the area p header, but the pipe sizes didn't jive. A tuner once told me that full exhaust usually will be very similiar between brands, but may sacrifice power mid to gain high or vice versa. When dealing with slip ons, he said that he never really sees a power difference between brands, so it is more a fit, finish, sound issue. I don't have specific info on what you asked, but that is my two cents.

August 10th, 2013, 11:30 PM	#11
SoccerScotty5 ninjette.org newbie Name: Scott Location: Hanford, CA Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250r Posts: 9	if I buy a full exhaust do I have to get a jet kit and get it jetted right away or could I wait a whike to get it jetted?

August 11th, 2013, 12:50 AM	#12
rasta Your face Name: Wes Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Honda CBR650f Posts: A lot.	Waaaait do you have to rejet with a Yoshi slip on? I was under the impressions it's as simple as slip on-and-go

August 11th, 2013, 06:26 AM	#14
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Get the Area-p and a jet kit. Do the filter while you're at it too. My bike picked up a good chunk of power from intake and exhaust. Raced a stock 250 on the highway and walked him good all the way to 115.

August 11th, 2013, 06:27 AM	#15
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	I actually prefer the 18" sound. Its still a good volume and sounds great. But its not obnoxious loud.

August 11th, 2013, 01:35 PM	#19
subxero dirty boy Name: Joe Location: Johnstown, PA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): I don't even know anymore?? Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '14	I have Nojima Moto gp i really like it, it is loud though. it was cheap here http://www.shop.kyleusa.com/product.sc?productId=271 __________________________________________________ I love the smell of burning pre-mix in the morning I don't think I'm a lot dumber than you thought that I think that I thought I was once.

August 11th, 2013, 01:59 PM	#20
YunMing ninjette.org member Name: Alexander Location: Santa Rosa Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): (Sold) 2007 Red Ninja 250r, 2003 Cbr 600 F4i Posts: 137	I think you should just save that money for a different bike

August 12th, 2013, 04:22 PM	#22
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Lol trust who? And watch out for those bike impounding fines from exhaust, they'll get ya. I feel like I'm being trolled.

August 12th, 2013, 04:26 PM	#23
Aodrn It's a long boring story Name: Ryan Location: St. Louis Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 167	I'm pretty sure the area p instructions even say that jetting is not necessary. It will give more power however.

August 12th, 2013, 04:38 PM	#25
ForceofWill Blind 250 Loving Whore Name: Tom Location: Chesapeake, VA Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R, 02 FZ1, '20 Fat Bob 114 Posts: A lot.	Jetting is not as hard as people are making it out to be. The kits come with everything and its all easy to take off.

August 12th, 2013, 04:51 PM	#26
gantt ninjette.org sage Name: michael Location: Central Georgia Join Date: May 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2019 Ninja 400, Sold 2012 Ninja 650, Sold 2009 Ninja 250r, Sold 2007 DRZ400s Posts: 628	I heard an area P 18 inch the other day. that will definitely be the exhaust i buy when i get around to it. love the way it looks. but $500+ isnt chump change either.

August 12th, 2013, 06:06 PM	#29
Aodrn It's a long boring story Name: Ryan Location: St. Louis Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250 Posts: 167	Never mind, I was wrong. http://www.areapnolimits.com/product...-250R-2008.php

August 12th, 2013, 07:17 PM	#31
SoccerScotty5 ninjette.org newbie Name: Scott Location: Hanford, CA Join Date: Aug 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250r Posts: 9	I bought a tyga maggot exhaust because it was the cheapest, about how much riding time do you think I'd have before I'd need to get it rejetted. Also, what are your thoughts on buying a jet kit and rejetting it yourself?

August 12th, 2013, 08:32 PM	#32
rc-rick ninjette.org member Name: Rick Location: St Peters Join Date: Feb 2013 Motorcycle(s): '09 ZX6 (street), '04 RC51 (street/track), '08 Ninja 250 (race) Posts: 104	Check into Leo Vince also.

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