I need help!!!

Mrudloff · August 24th, 2014, 02:48 PM

This tube just came off and I have no clue where it goes. Please help me figure out where it goes!! Just got my license and now my bike won't start.

amad1972 · August 24th, 2014, 04:57 PM

Are you talking about the tube that comes out of the back of the gas tank? It goes nowhere. Just route it down toward the ground. It is just for an overflow for the gas tank.

jkv45 · August 24th, 2014, 05:31 PM

From the photo, the coolant level in the overflow tank looks low.

Neither should make it not start though.

snot · August 24th, 2014, 05:56 PM

Does the bike try to start? Fuel, flooded carbs, battery could be some issues.

MrAtom · August 24th, 2014, 06:05 PM

I'm new to the Ninja 250 as well, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt (and if someone could verify or debunk what I'm saying, that'd be helpful)

I think it's just the overflow. I have a 2003 Ninja 250 and I think this is for when you overfill the gas tank. This picture was taken when I was first learning to take off/clutch control and I kept releasing it too quickly and flinging myself forward. I'm guessing that the gas in the tank obeyed our familiar friend inertia, and some of it went into this tube from sloshing around in the tank so much.

It's the hose on the far left for me.

M42 · August 24th, 2014, 07:39 PM

Whoa! Three tubes! I only have one tube on the left side of the tank on my 04. Weird!

MrAtom · August 24th, 2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by M42

Whoa! Three tubes! I only have one tube on the left side of the tank on my 04. Weird!

That is weird. I want more insight on this. I think that one tube is the overflow, one goes to the carbs, and the other is for the reserve.

Mrudloff · August 24th, 2014, 08:02 PM

Thanks so much every one. I feel dumb but being a new owner i guess its okay! My battery was dead so all i did was jump start it. I connected it from my car and waited about 10 seconds and it started right up. I let it run while i went in and put my gear on and then went for a ride to charge the battery back up. It should be good now.

flitecontrol · August 25th, 2014, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by M42

Whoa! Three tubes! I only have one tube on the left side of the tank on my 04. Weird!

Would being a California bike be the reason for all those tubes? I know many California model bikes have a different fuel/pollution setup than the rest of North America.

Yarhj · August 25th, 2014, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by flitecontrol

Would being a California bike be the reason for all those tubes? I know many California model bikes have a different fuel/pollution setup than the rest of North America.

Yes, California bikes have three tubes coming off the back of the tank for emissions control. See here for more detail and a comparison to the non-CA bikes.

M42 · August 25th, 2014, 08:05 AM

Double whoa. I thought my bike was a CA model (that's where I got it, bought in a CA dealership by the first owner).

MrAtom · August 25th, 2014, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Yarhj

Yes, California bikes have three tubes coming off the back of the tank for emissions control. See here for more detail and a comparison to the non-CA bikes.

Weird. My tubes are all hooked up to something with the exception of the one I thought was the overflow. Should I hook them all up again according to the link you just posted?

Yarhj · August 25th, 2014, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MrAtom

Weird. My tubes are all hooked up to something with the exception of the one I thought was the overflow. Should I hook them all up again according to the link you just posted?

Yes. It sounds like the drain tube accidentally got swapped with one of the other ones on your bike at some point, so just double check where all the hoses are going. The middle tube is a drain for your filler cap -- if rainwater gets in there or excess gas ends up there, it will drain out the middle tube. See here for a diagram of the filler assembly and a cutaway of the gas tank showing the connection between the filler cap and the vent at the back of the tank.

MrAtom · August 25th, 2014, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Yarhj

Yes. It sounds like the drain tube accidentally got swapped with one of the other ones on your bike at some point, so just double check where all the hoses are going. The middle tube is a drain for your filler cap -- if rainwater gets in there or excess gas ends up there, it will drain out the middle tube. See here for a diagram of the filler assembly and a cutaway of the gas tank showing the connection between the filler cap and the vent at the back of the tank.

Thanks, man. Helpful! Just goes to show you never know what to expect from a used bike.

amad1972 · August 26th, 2014, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrAtom

Thanks, man. Helpful! Just goes to show you never know what to expect from a used bike.

That's the truth. I got a 2001 Ninja 250 a month ago that looked completely stock, but had trouble running at higher rpm. It turned out that the main jets in the carburetors were waaay too large, as if it was an aftermarket exhaust.

August 24th, 2014, 04:57 PM	#2
amad1972 ninjette.org member Name: Aaron Location: Knoxville Join Date: Jul 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Honda ST1300, 2001 Ninja 250 Posts: 53	Are you talking about the tube that comes out of the back of the gas tank? It goes nowhere. Just route it down toward the ground. It is just for an overflow for the gas tank. __________________________________________________ Current vehicles: 2001 Ninja 250, 2007 Honda ST1300, 2013 Mustang GT, 1998 Firebird convertible, 2003 Jeep Grand Cherokee

August 24th, 2014, 05:56 PM	#4
snot sammich maker Name: snot Location: West Ohio - in the kitchen Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 white 300, 09 KLX 250 SF, 09 thunder blue 250(traded) Posts: A lot. MOTM - Apr '15	Does the bike try to start? Fuel, flooded carbs, battery could be some issues. Last futzed with by snot; August 25th, 2014 at 03:07 AM.

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Mrudloff ninjette.org newbie Name: Matt Location: Casselberry, FL Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Kawasaki Ninja EX250-F Posts: 6	Thanks so much every one. I feel dumb but being a new owner i guess its okay! My battery was dead so all i did was jump start it. I connected it from my car and waited about 10 seconds and it started right up. I let it run while i went in and put my gear on and then went for a ride to charge the battery back up. It should be good now. Last futzed with by Mrudloff; August 24th, 2014 at 09:40 PM.

August 24th, 2014, 05:31 PM	#3
jkv45 Rev Limiter Name: Jay Location: WI Join Date: Jul 2013 Motorcycle(s): '06 SV650n, '00 Derbi GPR, '64 CA77 Dream 305, '70 CL450 Scrambler, numerous dirt bikes Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jun '18, Oct '16	From the photo, the coolant level in the overflow tank looks low. Neither should make it not start though.

August 24th, 2014, 06:05 PM	#5
MrAtom . Name: . Location: . Join Date: Aug 2014 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot. MOTM - July '15	I'm new to the Ninja 250 as well, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt (and if someone could verify or debunk what I'm saying, that'd be helpful) I think it's just the overflow. I have a 2003 Ninja 250 and I think this is for when you overfill the gas tank. This picture was taken when I was first learning to take off/clutch control and I kept releasing it too quickly and flinging myself forward. I'm guessing that the gas in the tank obeyed our familiar friend inertia, and some of it went into this tube from sloshing around in the tank so much. It's the hose on the far left for me.

August 24th, 2014, 07:39 PM	#6
M42 Wrench wench Name: The Stigette Location: DC/MD/VA Join Date: Jun 2014 Motorcycle(s): TWO HUNDRED FORTY EIGHT CUBIC CENTIMETERS (R.I.P.), SIX HUNDRED FORTY FIVE CUBIC CENTIMETERS Posts: 415	Whoa! Three tubes! I only have one tube on the left side of the tank on my 04. Weird!

August 25th, 2014, 08:05 AM	#11
M42 Wrench wench Name: The Stigette Location: DC/MD/VA Join Date: Jun 2014 Motorcycle(s): TWO HUNDRED FORTY EIGHT CUBIC CENTIMETERS (R.I.P.), SIX HUNDRED FORTY FIVE CUBIC CENTIMETERS Posts: 415	Double whoa. I thought my bike was a CA model (that's where I got it, bought in a CA dealership by the first owner).