250r Popping Out Of Gear

MrTiddles · May 7th, 2009, 08:51 AM

So once in a while my 250 pops out of gear, mainly in 2nd gear it seems, always during accel. Scares me to death, especially when I'm under semi-hard throttle.

Anyone else have this problem?

Apex · May 7th, 2009, 08:57 AM

Not really. I do know that when it happens it is because I didn't make a solid shift.

TrueFaith · May 7th, 2009, 08:57 AM

Sounds like your clutch cable or shifter needs some adjustment.

1hardryder4life · May 7th, 2009, 08:58 AM

are you making a solid shift from 1st to 2nd every time? If not, it can often times slip down into nuetral if the shift from 1-2 is not solid.

If you are making solid shifts, then this probably wont be an easy repair. rounded gear dogs and bent or worn shift forks can be a costly transmission repair...IF it comes to that.

Apex · May 7th, 2009, 09:01 AM

It could also be a simple shifter adjustment. The foot lever may be a tad high, and out of the range of his ankle movement. Lower it by a tooth or two, and see if that helps.

CC Cowboy · May 7th, 2009, 09:23 AM

You either don't have it all the way in gear, it needs adjusted, or you bent a shift fork (or you have a blue bike).

Apex · May 7th, 2009, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

You ever don't have it all the way in gear, it needs adjusted, or you bent a shift fork (or you have a blue bike).

Dang those blue bikes!!!!

Alex · May 7th, 2009, 09:37 AM

/moving to tech forum

MrTiddles · May 7th, 2009, 10:47 AM

lol, I DO have a blue bike...

Anyway, I think it may be a clutch adjustment issue, my clutch handle seems to maybe not quite go all the way engaged when I let it forward. If that makes sense. I'll fiddle with it.

*edit*

Ok, I adjusted the clutch line and the shifter mechanism in ways suggested above, we'll give it a while and see if it helps. Thanks guys.

Kolya1981 · May 7th, 2009, 12:48 PM

I had this problem when I first got the bike. It would randomly pop out of gear even with the clutch handle adjusted correctly. Also, I had the problem where it would pop out of 6th into a false neutral. I initially thougt it was user error, but I started purposefully making sure I was shifting properly and still had the problem. I changed my oil early in, and the problem stoped so I never had the dealer check it out. When I got the 600 mile check up it started again, looked at my invoice and said "bulk 10W40 generic" under the parts list. I changed my oil imediately with kawi oil and it solved the problem again. So take that for what it is worth, but maybe the transmissions on these sr just very picky about oil? For me it only does it with the bulk oil they use at the dealership. I change to regular old Kawisaki oil and it fixes it.
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MrTiddles · May 7th, 2009, 02:14 PM

Awesome, I'm due for an oil change, so I suppose I can just shotgun this problem. Thanks for the suggestions, sir.

CC Cowboy · May 7th, 2009, 03:55 PM

Synthetic is the way to go.

Racer x · May 7th, 2009, 04:09 PM

I have this problem . It happens under hard acceleration . Kinda finds a false neutral. I blame myself for it most of the time . It dose not happen when I am deliberate between first and second. It never happens in any other gear.

craha · May 7th, 2009, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apex

It could also be a simple shifter adjustment. The foot lever may be a tad high, and out of the range of his ankle movement. Lower it by a tooth or two, and see if that helps.

I have the same problem, always thought it was my poor shifting. Didn't know that I could adjust the shifter foot lever to accommodate. Thought I had to replace the whole rearset to improve the ergos.

Any tips or pix to help make this adjustment?

PS-My bike is blue also!

kkim · May 8th, 2009, 04:12 PM

adjustment pics in here... I won't hold you having a blue bike against you, but in the future, I wouldn't advertise it either!

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15136

djindia23 · May 11th, 2009, 09:15 AM

blue 250s are the fastest.... dont listen to these guys!!! lol...

SteveL · May 11th, 2009, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djindia23

blue 250s are the fastest.... dont listen to these guys!!! lol...

Not when they are no in gear.

Steve

Snake · May 11th, 2009, 09:34 AM

I had this problem before and it stopped doing it when I tightened the loose chain. Check your chain and see.

MrTiddles · May 11th, 2009, 01:56 PM

Interesting. I'm due to take the bike in for a dealer maintenance, still have some money on that 'plan' i got transferred from the original owner. Anyone have tips on adjusting the chain themselves?

May 7th, 2009, 08:51 AM	#1
MrTiddles ninjette.org member Name: Seth Location: Wichita, KS Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Posts: 89	250r Popping Out Of Gear So once in a while my 250 pops out of gear, mainly in 2nd gear it seems, always during accel. Scares me to death, especially when I'm under semi-hard throttle. Anyone else have this problem? __________________________________________________

May 7th, 2009, 08:57 AM	#2
Apex Livin' the Minimoto Life Name: Mark Location: Riding around in TX Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2022 Honda Navi, 2018 Z-125 Pro Posts: A lot.	Not really. I do know that when it happens it is because I didn't make a solid shift. __________________________________________________ --- My IG Page --- My FB page! --- 2022 Honda Navi && 2018 Z-125 Pro

May 7th, 2009, 09:01 AM	#5
Apex Livin' the Minimoto Life Name: Mark Location: Riding around in TX Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2022 Honda Navi, 2018 Z-125 Pro Posts: A lot.	It could also be a simple shifter adjustment. The foot lever may be a tad high, and out of the range of his ankle movement. Lower it by a tooth or two, and see if that helps. __________________________________________________ --- My IG Page --- My FB page! --- 2022 Honda Navi && 2018 Z-125 Pro

May 7th, 2009, 09:23 AM	#6
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	You either don't have it all the way in gear, it needs adjusted, or you bent a shift fork (or you have a blue bike). __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

May 7th, 2009, 09:37 AM	#8
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	/moving to tech forum __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 7th, 2009, 08:57 AM	#3
TrueFaith ninjette.org sage Name: Wayne Location: Brookfield, MA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Honda CBR250R Posts: 585	Sounds like your clutch cable or shifter needs some adjustment.

May 7th, 2009, 08:58 AM	#4
1hardryder4life ninjette.org member Name: TBoz Location: New York Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): Nothing Posts: 93	are you making a solid shift from 1st to 2nd every time? If not, it can often times slip down into nuetral if the shift from 1-2 is not solid. If you are making solid shifts, then this probably wont be an easy repair. rounded gear dogs and bent or worn shift forks can be a costly transmission repair...IF it comes to that.

May 7th, 2009, 10:47 AM	#9
MrTiddles ninjette.org member Name: Seth Location: Wichita, KS Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Posts: 89	lol, I DO have a blue bike... Anyway, I think it may be a clutch adjustment issue, my clutch handle seems to maybe not quite go all the way engaged when I let it forward. If that makes sense. I'll fiddle with it. edit Ok, I adjusted the clutch line and the shifter mechanism in ways suggested above, we'll give it a while and see if it helps. Thanks guys. __________________________________________________ Last futzed with by MrTiddles; May 7th, 2009 at 12:38 PM.

May 7th, 2009, 12:48 PM	#10
Kolya1981 Generic User Title Name: Nick Location: PA, USA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Green 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, Slate 2009 Triumph StreetTriple R Posts: 110	I had this problem when I first got the bike. It would randomly pop out of gear even with the clutch handle adjusted correctly. Also, I had the problem where it would pop out of 6th into a false neutral. I initially thougt it was user error, but I started purposefully making sure I was shifting properly and still had the problem. I changed my oil early in, and the problem stoped so I never had the dealer check it out. When I got the 600 mile check up it started again, looked at my invoice and said "bulk 10W40 generic" under the parts list. I changed my oil imediately with kawi oil and it solved the problem again. So take that for what it is worth, but maybe the transmissions on these sr just very picky about oil? For me it only does it with the bulk oil they use at the dealership. I change to regular old Kawisaki oil and it fixes it. Posted via Mobile Device

May 7th, 2009, 02:14 PM	#11
MrTiddles ninjette.org member Name: Seth Location: Wichita, KS Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Posts: 89	Awesome, I'm due for an oil change, so I suppose I can just shotgun this problem. Thanks for the suggestions, sir. __________________________________________________

May 7th, 2009, 03:55 PM	#12
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Synthetic is the way to go. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

May 7th, 2009, 04:09 PM	#13
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	I have this problem . It happens under hard acceleration . Kinda finds a false neutral. I blame myself for it most of the time . It dose not happen when I am deliberate between first and second. It never happens in any other gear.

May 8th, 2009, 04:12 PM	#15
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	adjustment pics in here... I won't hold you having a blue bike against you, but in the future, I wouldn't advertise it either! http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15136

May 11th, 2009, 09:15 AM	#16
djindia23 Ride or Die Ninja Name: Kichu Location: New Jersey Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): Blue Ninja 250R (the fastest color) Posts: 90	blue 250s are the fastest.... dont listen to these guys!!! lol...

May 11th, 2009, 09:34 AM	#18
Snake ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 05 Blue Ninja 250 Posts: Too much. MOTY - 2017, MOTM - Jan '19, Oct '16, May '14	I had this problem before and it stopped doing it when I tightened the loose chain. Check your chain and see.

May 11th, 2009, 01:56 PM	#19
MrTiddles ninjette.org member Name: Seth Location: Wichita, KS Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Posts: 89	Interesting. I'm due to take the bike in for a dealer maintenance, still have some money on that 'plan' i got transferred from the original owner. Anyone have tips on adjusting the chain themselves? __________________________________________________

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